Match Ryoga vs Byodoin

[Kaoz]

but we can already see Byodoin's true potential

Honestly, we probably can't. Or if we did he'll evolve further during the WC. I don't disagree at this point that Ryoga might be the strongest HSer by the end of the WC, but I don't feel like it'll be clear-cut.

 

[Shogun Ryoma]

Both are TOP tier, hard to choose.

 

[Tanuki25]

I would root for Byodoin.
But to be honest we do not know much about Ryougas playstyle.
And I don't think that Byodoin has shown all he has got.

 

[Hardy]

Pretty confident we saw absolutely everything Byoudouin had to offer, he literally died in his last match. That Kaoz post is from 2016.

Ryoga on the other hand seemed to not be on full gears against Ralph and every time he plays he gets stronger. He probably stole Nanjirou's tennis off-screen, too.

Also it's very likely Ryoga will be the final boss and shounen power scaling usually leads us to think he'll be the strongest opponent.

 

[Adamska]

Hi guys it's been ages
Boss vs Monster Volk shows his tennis
Which I think was included almost everything that we've seen on others in full capacity!
Also Volk plus match itself!
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Royga is mystery! Maybe as a opponent he is more fearsome than Boss (like Volk)
But we already saw that everyone can lose
This is tennis.

 

[ShadowHeart]

Obviously Ryoga he'll just consume Byo best techniques. Ryoma probably gonna develop some bs ability that allows to not only counter his consume but use the techniques Ryoga absorb.

 

[-Ken-]

From what we've seen, I'm still cheering for Ryoga.

 

[Ganonslayer101]

Ryoga just clears right? I guess if it's a one Set match then maybe Byoudin can do it? But the longer the Match, the weaker Byoudin becomes.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Ryoga just clears right? I guess if it's a one Set match then maybe Byoudin can do it? But the longer the Match, the weaker Byoudin becomes.

I mean even Ralph was able to win a set against Ryoga. 6-2!!!

And we know Ralph is a full tier behind Byodoin/Volk/Medanore tier

You can say Ryoga might not be serious. But still.

Consume is being implied to have a weakness and limit. So, it is not like a sure win ability. I think it also needed time before it can be activated.

In Fact, Medanore is being implied to be immune to it. (Not saying Medanore will def beat Ryoga). But he is immune to it.

However, I agree Ryoga beats Byodoin cause of matchups.

The only ones who can even put a threat against Ryoga are: (imo)

Ryoma (Main Character Plot Armor. Jk. Lmao)

Medanore (cause of consume immunity)

And maybe Volk (cause he have strong Base)

Byodoin Base is significantly worst than Volk. In fact, He needed 8C to even compete with Volk's Base.

 

[Ganonslayer101]

I mean even Ralph was able to win a set against Ryoga. 6-2!!!

And we know Ralph is a full tier behind Byodoin/Volk/Medanore tier

You can say Ryoga might not be serious. But still.

Consume is being implied to have a weakness and limit. So, it is not like a sure win ability. I think it also needed time before it can be activated.

In Fact, Medanore is being implied to be immune to it. (Not saying Medanore will def beat Ryoga). But he is immune to it.

However, I agree Ryoga beats Byodoin cause of matchups.

The only ones who can even put a threat against Ryoga are: (imo)

Ryoma (Main Character Plot Armor. Jk. Lmao)

Medanore (cause of consume immunity)

And maybe Volk (cause he have strong Base)

Byodoin Base is significantly worst than Volk. In fact, He needed 8C to even compete with Volk's Base.

But we don't know the weakness yet, and we certainly don't know if its something anyone could do.
To speculate, Byoudin's best chance is if Consume seals each move individually, then Byoudin just sacrifices a bunch of World techniques (though how many does he have that can actually score on Ryoga?). I assume this is the case since Ryoma's main schtick was using a bunch of copied techniques and i assume that will be his initial weapon to seal consume.

We know consume doesn't take time though. Byoudin caught his Destruction instead of returning it because consume would have taken it. In what is virtually a one shot play he'd have consumed, so we know he can do it instantly.

As fore base, Ralph was also pure base stats and he was still consumed. At best Volk would put up a better fight but he still ends up consumed. Unless Ryoga physically can't ever return Whirpool Baptism or has low enough mental so as to fall for the timeloop.

 

[LetalHawk]

But we don't know the weakness yet, and we certainly don't know if its something anyone could do.
To speculate, Byoudin's best chance is if Consume seals each move individually, then Byoudin just sacrifices a bunch of World techniques (though how many does he have that can actually score on Ryoga?). I assume this is the case since Ryoma's main schtick was using a bunch of copied techniques and i assume that will be his initial weapon to seal consume.

We know consume doesn't take time though. Byoudin caught his Destruction instead of returning it because consume would have taken it. In what is virtually a one shot play he'd have consumed, so we know he can do it instantly.

As fore base, Ralph was also pure base stats and he was still consumed. At best Volk would put up a better fight but he still ends up consumed. Unless Ryoga physically can't ever return Whirpool Baptism or has low enough mental so as to fall for the timeloop.

His stats mentioned in the first fanbook said that he has a slender build, but can fire huge shots and that his physical strength should be quite high.

He should be able to deal with Wirbeltaufe, he should have a similar grip strength like Byodouin if anything.

Time loop is another thing, but Volk can’t use it if his tennis gets consumed little by little. If Ryoga gets caught on it though, he has amazing mental strength, he would snap out of it somehow, but not as quickly as Byo maybe.

I still think he has something else aside from consume.

 

[Ganonslayer101]

His stats mentioned in the first fanbook said that he has a slender build, but can fire huge shots and that his physical strength should be quite high.

He should be able to deal with Wirbeltaufe, he should have a similar grip strength like Byodouin if anything.

Time loop is another thing, but Volk can’t use it if his tennis gets consumed little by little. If Ryoga gets caught on it though, he has amazing mental strength, he would snap out of it somehow, but not as quickly as Byo maybe.

I still think he has something else aside from consume.

Oh I'm just pointing out the only scenarios I think would let Volk take it.
I have no doubt Ryoga could return Wirbeltaufe and he only has to return it once since Volk wouldn't know ahead of time not to return the shot.

Ryoga certainly isn't just consume, but I can't imagine anyone in story who wouldn't just lose to consume. Like Ryoga can go further but doesn't need to.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

But we don't know the weakness yet, and we certainly don't know if its something anyone could do.
To speculate, Byoudin's best chance is if Consume seals each move individually, then Byoudin just sacrifices a bunch of World techniques (though how many does he have that can actually score on Ryoga?). I assume this is the case since Ryoma's main schtick was using a bunch of copied techniques and i assume that will be his initial weapon to seal consume.

We know consume doesn't take time though. Byoudin caught his Destruction instead of returning it because consume would have taken it. In what is virtually a one shot play he'd have consumed, so we know he can do it instantly.

As fore base, Ralph was also pure base stats and he was still consumed. At best Volk would put up a better fight but he still ends up consumed. Unless Ryoga physically can't ever return Whirpool Baptism or has low enough mental so as to fall for the timeloop.

I have a way to beat consume. Just don't hit his shot back using your rocket. (Byodoin was not consumed when he caught it)

For ex: Make a technique like "Tezuka Phantom" where you force Ryoga's shot to be out. That way you will not be consumed.

Lol
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In all seriousness,

Right now. The only one who is being implied by Konomi that can handle Consume is Medanore.

So, all it takes to seal Consume is by having a Split Personality. LMAO.

BUT SURPRISE, Medanore doesn't have a split Personality. There are 2 Medanores as the twins said. (So, its up to you how you interpret it so far. Lol)

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