Discussion Sabo Thread

[Immo]

So here we can discuss about Sabo as future possible character. I personally don't belive he is dead but ofc I can be wrong. What if Ace betrayed his and Sabo's dream about becoming pirates by sacrificing treasure they got for for example saving Luffy's life? Sabo then left mountain bandits and wanted revenge on Ace and Luffy and became Marine. Later on he ate Brain Brain fruit or Time Time fruit and got knowledge of doctors living 500 years in the future, gave himself nickname Vegapunk and became marine's main brain power. Crazy theory I know.

 

[skullshuriken734]

Well first off, what do we know about Sabo?
not much just that he is aces age, uses a stick, and has a dream (to be a pirate)
did he start his own journey away from ace and luffy? or did he join ace on his?
or the all important question is he dead?
I am very curious to see what happens next chapter with the tenryubito
i believe we can get a good idea of what happens with sabo then
my theory:

Sabo is enslaved while trying to steal more money
Luffy and crew (in the near future)see a tenryubito holding an older sabo in chains
Luffy Rescues Sabo vowing to save him this time and that he will not fail him as he did ace
later he asks sabo to join and fulfills his comrades dream of becoming a pirate

 

[OdaForPresident]

I really doubt that Sabo=Vegapunk, from Franky's side story we know that vegapunk grew up in future island, this pretty much rules out sabo as vegapunk.

My guess is that sabo dies in whatever tenryubito/pirate incident is coming up.

 

[BlackHair]

For me Sabo is dead until said otherwise. Seriously I don't want add another character on the waiting list. Im already dying to see Dragon and the remaining Yonko. Not to mention the fighting styles of several character like Garp, Flamingo, Roger etc.

 

[Liger X]

Sabo's Fate... Post #1

Judging from the tense and case of the writing, I believe that Sabo, the character, actually had passed before the current "present."

574; 10

Spoiler: Chapter 574, Page 10

Here are several quotes of this page, from different translations:

"If it weren't for the Sabo incident and a troublesome brother like you, I probably would not have wanted to live...."
"Ace: I'm sorry about **** (SABO). If you weren't there, I don't think I would have wanted to live."
"Ace: Yeah... if it wasn't for that incident with Sabo, and a troublesome brother like you... I wouldn't have wanted to live in the first place...."
"Ace: ...Yeah... you know... if it weren't for the Sabo thing... and having a little brother like you to look out for... // ...I would never have... even... wanted to live..."
​

Each and every one seems to suggest that this "Sabo-thing" had been a past tense event/ person/ etc.

This means, the whole entire thing happened in the past, however, when further understanding is brought forth, the characterization of Ace suggests that he had to have been influenced to live from this.

We know that Sabo is currently aspiring to become a pirate, and he is trying to be a pirate alongside Ace... We know that Luffy and Ace don't have the great brotherly bond that they were shown to have during the flashbacks when the Marineford arc was being played.

All that we know about Sabo, and what happened, suggests that Sabo had been killed, and Ace would then have a meaning to live, as well as become overly worried of Luffy's character-- and be overprotective as well.

How he may have passed, however, is up to assumptions and speculations; possibly becoming a victim of the Tenryuubito, the victim of Bluejam Pirate Crew, or even passed in a different way. Although it seems pretty safe to assume that Sabo is no longer alive to this day, otherwise, Ace would have said something about him, or at least mentioned that Luffy ought to inform Sabo, like he told Luffy to inform Dadan.

Seriously, my final thoughts are that Sabo is deceased and will either die next week, or the week after during the flashback!

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[johnnyb7]

My guess is that Luffy, Ace and Sabo will all enrage the Tenrybiuto, they will hunt them down, and Sabo will give his life to protect Luffy and Ace, telling them to become great pirates since he can't.

 

[Uriel]

My guess is that Sabo will die protecting Ace. And then we see the second death of many to see.

 

[johnnyb7]

My guess is that Sabo will die protecting Ace. And then we see the second death of many to see.

We saw Jaguar D. Saul Die. And also it would be the fourth, Saul, Ace, Whitebeard and then Sabo

 

[Doom Crow]

Has anyone considered the possibility of Sabo being Donquixote Doflamingo? Sabo's views on the world seem to be quickly resembling something that could evolve into Flamingo's current ideology, based on what has happened to Sabo in his childhood.

 

[bittman]

Proven wrong about twenty times Doom Crow with the following lovely Chapter 0:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/565.5/14/

Still, nothing to say there isn't a connection between them, just that Sabo is not Doflamingo.

 

[panasit]

Sabo's story seem to reflect that of a typical Japanese kid. His parents expect to study hard and argue with each other about his performance. His dream of writing a book doesn't get pass on to anyone. I think he is still alive.

 

[Liger X]

Re: Sabo's Fate... Post #2

Continuation from Sabo's Fate... Post #1

This is a continuation of my original post on here, another clue to foreshadow that Sabo is indeed dead: Post 7996 - APForums, Aohige.

This is talking about this page in the second panel... The wording does suggest that Sabo isn't either a brother in this world, alive, or something totally different.

Could it mean that we're heading to SPACE!?!?! Probably not, however, it ought to establish more unwavering support that Sabo is indeed deceased.

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[Uriel]

We saw Jaguar D. Saul Die. And also it would be the fourth, Saul, Ace, Whitebeard and then Sabo

Ok, ok. I completely forgot xD

And well, seems that Sabo dies. Sad, I might say, but it adds the sad story of the past common in Strawhats.

 

[Wrath]

I don't think we can really take the very vague reference to Sabo to definitely mean any one thing. Oda was deliberately trying not to give away the story we're enjoying now.

I won't say that we can truly predict what happens in OP, but to me I don't think there's anything to gain by killing Sabo. Ace just died. Introducing Sabo and then killing him off immediately can't come close to the power of Ace's death.

 

[Smit]

Grasping for straws here but could this guy be Sabo? http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/546/01/
If Sabo grew his hair would it look like that? And the face is concealed maybe for a reason. I for one really hope its him.
But like i said grasping here.

 

[Akainu]

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[RichardMNixon]

Hold the phone. He said the Sabo thing made him want to live - but his will to live was also past tense. What if that was his will to live before Luffy showed up? What if having Sabo as a friend and collecting their pirate treasure was that "Sabo thing," and that's what kept Ace going while he was < 10? It might have nothing to do with Sabo events thereafter.

 

[Riku]

Depends on how this flashback ends, but if he is alive he's a good guess. Flashback, dream, distinct style. All we are missing is the comic relief habit.

 

[chess4]

Depends on how this flashback ends, but if he is alive he's a good guess. Flashback, dream, distinct style. All we are missing is the comic relief habit.

yeah i feel you, but robin doesnt have one. if we go by that then boa would be a better candidate. i guess things will become clearer when the flashback is over and we see if sabo lived or not

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Depends on how this flashback ends, but if he is alive he's a good guess. Flashback, dream, distinct style. All we are missing is the comic relief habit.

Ace has just died and Luffy is crying, there is absolutely no reason for comic relief in this flashback.