Discussion Sanjuan Wolf: Confirmed Non-Devil Fruit User or not?

[deffkryz]

if san juan wolf could walk the entire one piece ocean. then one piece ocean is not deep at all.

You're already proven wrong by where Fishmen's Island is situated... 10km below the water surface...

 

[kulugo]

You're already proven wrong by where Fishmen's Island is situated... 10km below the water surface...

then he can't walk the entire one piece ocean.

so he doesn't have a devil fruit cause he'll drown if go into deep waters, since he can't swim (if having a DF).

 

[ScratchmenApoo]

A size changing DF has already appeared in the game "One Piece: Round the Land", so at least a shrinking DF is impossible to appear in the manga.

A video game is definitely not canon.
For example, even though One Piece Movie 9 showed a Poison Poison Fruit user, he still gave the power to Magellan.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

So, I contribute to the One Piece wikia and was thinking of editing Sanjuan Wolf's article and stating that he is a confirmed non-Devil Fruit user, based on Chapter 595, but upon closer inspection of the chapter, I've come to realise that it's not so clear after all.

Here's the page in question:

http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-595/page006.html

Sanjuan Wolf: "Ahhhh! / I can barely keep working my legs... / No power'll fill my body... / Oww! I was bitten by a fish!

Now, after reinspecting the page, I have two possible opinions, as opposed to one definite one.

1. Sanjuan Wolf is not a devil fruit user, because he is treading water in the ocean and not drowning. The fact that he needs to constantly tread water means the water is too deep to stand in, and since he's keeping his head well above water, he is not in fact drowning, so he could not have eaten a devil fruit, meaning he is just a super huge giant. Since he also says that there is no power in his body, this could just mean he's tired because of the constant paddling.

2. He may be a Devil Fruit user. It's the line about there being no power in his body that makes me think this, since Devil Fruit users feel powerless in water. This could mean he ate a supersize devil fruit, and his body has been permanently altered like Luffy's, so it's his enormous size that allows him to not drown, since maybe the water is only deep enough that his feet shouldn't touch the bottom, so he just needs to keep his head above.

We've seen that if a devil fruit user's body isn't completely submerged, they aren't completely powerless, and this has been evidenced by Kalifa and Hancock in their baths, and Luffy when he, Smoker, Zoro, Usopp and Nami were in the cage under Rain Dinners Casino and the room was filling with water. So basically what I'm saying is, Sanjuan is feeling drained from being in water, but isn't completely submerged so he still has enough energy to tread water.

Also, perhaps his size has nothing to do with his ability, perhaps he could have a totally unrelated ability and his size could be natural.

So what do you guys think? I think each side of the argument is equally compelling at the moment. On the one hand, devil fruit users can't swim at all, not even paddle, so the fact that he is able to tread water and keep his head above water should mean he is not a devil fruit user. On the other hand, the fact that he is complaining about being powerless is reminiscent of devil fruit users. Hmm...

As an editor on the One Piece wikia - under the name of LordRayleigh - I must tell you that what you that you cannot add your opinion on Sanjuan Wolf's abilities and power simply because this is speculation. If you were to do it, other editors would edit it back.

I don't think that he ate a Devil Fruit because otherwise, he wouldn't be able to walk in the sea when only his head is above the water. There were several cases with Devil Fruits users who were in their depth and they were losing all their energy/control of themselves.

However, the Devil Fruit is possible, even if would give an ability similar to Sengoku - who seems turn into a giant golem. I would better say it gives his user the ability to grow at will. After all, there was in a One Piece game, the Mini Mini no Mi, which gives his user the ability to shrink at will.

 

[Cizuz]

A video game is definitely not canon.
For example, even though One Piece Movie 9 showed a Poison Poison Fruit user, he still gave the power to Magellan.

Actually no, in movie 9 he does not have the poison poison fruit. Also ODA said for continuity sake even for movies he had to approve devil fruit ideas. Wapols brother Musshuru used the mushroom mushroom fruit, a side effect of this is he was able to produce poison from his mushroom powers, but magdellen was poison incarnate.

 

[deffkryz]

A video game is definitely not canon.
For example, even though One Piece Movie 9 showed a Poison Poison Fruit user, he still gave the power to Magellan.

Sure, but Oda stated that once something appeared outside of the manga like DF fruits or characters they won't be part of the manga anymore... even if he was the one who created the powers and characters.

Mushroo also didn't have the "Poison Poison fruit" but more like "Mushroom Mushroom fruit" (Noko Noko no Mi -> noko which derives from "kinoko" as japanese from mushroom AFAIR)

 

[Junaid_Sennin]

As an editor on the One Piece wikia - under the name of LordRayleigh - I must tell you that what you that you cannot add your opinion on Sanjuan Wolf's abilities and power simply because this is speculation. If you were to do it, other editors would edit it back.

I know that, that's why I didn't add it. This is just something that interests me, and so I decided to discuss it on the forum.

Still, your point is well noted senpai.

 

[kkck]

http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/45418858/10
I think this should prove san juan wolf is without a shred of doubt not a DF user. Luffy just got his arm wet and was powerless. Same thing would happen to SJW if he gets even half his body into the ocean. Anyways, there is no way san juan wolf would be able to survive being in the water as he was shown before if he couldn't even properly touch the button of the ocean.

 

[Baron Vorg]

heso..
I'am newbie and i an one piece lover.. This is my first post, i hope isn't embarassing.. I don't have english very well, so forgive me if i make mistake...


I want to ask a question, if SJW is a df user, how he can fighting in battle? We know that df user is weak in water, but SJW is too large so he can't got sink.. But how about if the battle arena have the deep sea, example in Sabaody Isn't 10 km from the surface? And it's can be more deeper.. And i think it's not only sabaody, i guess many place in NW is more deep..
I hope all of you can understand what i say..