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He remains a seriously self absorbed delusional idiot. And I like it. I couldn't stand the fact that he would simply be converted by an anekdote and would suddenly turn likable. He's as unlikable as he ever was.
First of all, his love for the village isn't real. It's his love for his brother that gets channeled into substitute love for the village in place of his brother's. It's not that he actually cares about the village in the first degree sense.
Furthermore, the arrogance of standing next to his now once again friend, I assume, and having the nerve to simply announce himself the next Hokage when he knows it has been Naruto's dream since the start (and is more deserving of it). I could understand if there was no candicate currently available that he would take the responsibility, but this isn't the case, there's Naruto.
For not even saying sorry to everyone he should in the proper way, which is done by bowing and begging for forgiveness. For not recognizing that he doesn't have what it takes to be a true inspiring revolutionary figure. For not recognizing that for the purposes of protecting the village, you don't need the title of Hokage, he can do it from the shades. Yet he just needs to be in the spotlight and steal the title from someone more qualified in all aspects. Also, for not recognizing that his moral character has been tainted too much already to still think of himself as righteous, and worthy of such a position.
Kakashi has matured in the right way, he does his best while never forgetting to admit that because he was once trash, that this will haunt him forever. He still sees himself as trash, rather than blame his father for being as stubborn as he was as a kid, unlike Sasuke who puts all the blame on the previous Hokage.
Last, given his track record of constantly changing his mind, we (and the characters in the manga) would be safe to regard Sasuke's essence as an "unstable character". Yes he may be good now, they can legitimately say, but with this guy you can never be too sure. He might end up killing us tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow he might be good again.
Also not recognizing that the entire ninja world at this point worships Naruto for protecting them all with Kyuubi cloak and being able to lift their spirits just by shouting his way of the ninja. When really, no one thinks that highly of Sasuke (not to mention Tsunade and the Konoha elders, who actually get to make the decision). Indeed how can he think he would even be accepted as Hokage by this ninja world?
Given all this, even if he's under no manipulation by anyone, I don't see him as any less delusional than he used to be.
Despite him gaining all of the truth, he still hasn't matured. Orochimaru is wrong.
Oh and last let me say this. To anyone giving him a pass because it's only now that he has all the truth, he already had ALL he needed not to be an insane genocidal psychopath, after Tobi told him about Itachi. Taking out Danzou and the Konoha elders, that is fine. Normal reaction. But the fact that he chose to kill everyone including children who don't know anything, all because Itachi suffered for them, that is pathetic moral reasoning.
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Extension of the topic. Pertaining to what Sasuke did. Minority report. Yes, Sasuke hasn't "done" anything, in the sense of actually getting things done. He hasn't killed Karin, he hasn't killed Sakura, he hasn't killed Kakashi, he hasn't killed Naruto and all of team 7 at the first reunion, and he hasn't killed Bee. What do all these not-killings have in common? The fact they didn't happen despite his true intentions. Every single time, someone or something stopped him. Oro stopped him from using Kirin, being fooled stopped him from killing Bee (or at least taking him to where he would inevitably die), Kakashi stopped him from killing Sakura, Naruto stopped him from killing Sakura on his 2nd try and planning to kill Kakashi, and Sakura's healing stopped him from killing Karin. Sure he hasn't "done" anything, but it has little to do with the fact that he would have.
In my conception, he did do those things. If I tell a lie, yet my lie by sheer coincidence happens to be a truth without me realizing, it doesn't make me any less of a liar. I still committed the intentional act of lying. I just didn't succeed in stating a proposition that doesn't match reality. I would be even worse than a liar: an incompetent one.
First of all, his love for the village isn't real. It's his love for his brother that gets channeled into substitute love for the village in place of his brother's. It's not that he actually cares about the village in the first degree sense.
Furthermore, the arrogance of standing next to his now once again friend, I assume, and having the nerve to simply announce himself the next Hokage when he knows it has been Naruto's dream since the start (and is more deserving of it). I could understand if there was no candicate currently available that he would take the responsibility, but this isn't the case, there's Naruto.
For not even saying sorry to everyone he should in the proper way, which is done by bowing and begging for forgiveness. For not recognizing that he doesn't have what it takes to be a true inspiring revolutionary figure. For not recognizing that for the purposes of protecting the village, you don't need the title of Hokage, he can do it from the shades. Yet he just needs to be in the spotlight and steal the title from someone more qualified in all aspects. Also, for not recognizing that his moral character has been tainted too much already to still think of himself as righteous, and worthy of such a position.
Kakashi has matured in the right way, he does his best while never forgetting to admit that because he was once trash, that this will haunt him forever. He still sees himself as trash, rather than blame his father for being as stubborn as he was as a kid, unlike Sasuke who puts all the blame on the previous Hokage.
Last, given his track record of constantly changing his mind, we (and the characters in the manga) would be safe to regard Sasuke's essence as an "unstable character". Yes he may be good now, they can legitimately say, but with this guy you can never be too sure. He might end up killing us tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow he might be good again.
Also not recognizing that the entire ninja world at this point worships Naruto for protecting them all with Kyuubi cloak and being able to lift their spirits just by shouting his way of the ninja. When really, no one thinks that highly of Sasuke (not to mention Tsunade and the Konoha elders, who actually get to make the decision). Indeed how can he think he would even be accepted as Hokage by this ninja world?
Given all this, even if he's under no manipulation by anyone, I don't see him as any less delusional than he used to be.
Despite him gaining all of the truth, he still hasn't matured. Orochimaru is wrong.
Oh and last let me say this. To anyone giving him a pass because it's only now that he has all the truth, he already had ALL he needed not to be an insane genocidal psychopath, after Tobi told him about Itachi. Taking out Danzou and the Konoha elders, that is fine. Normal reaction. But the fact that he chose to kill everyone including children who don't know anything, all because Itachi suffered for them, that is pathetic moral reasoning.
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Edit
Extension of the topic. Pertaining to what Sasuke did. Minority report. Yes, Sasuke hasn't "done" anything, in the sense of actually getting things done. He hasn't killed Karin, he hasn't killed Sakura, he hasn't killed Kakashi, he hasn't killed Naruto and all of team 7 at the first reunion, and he hasn't killed Bee. What do all these not-killings have in common? The fact they didn't happen despite his true intentions. Every single time, someone or something stopped him. Oro stopped him from using Kirin, being fooled stopped him from killing Bee (or at least taking him to where he would inevitably die), Kakashi stopped him from killing Sakura, Naruto stopped him from killing Sakura on his 2nd try and planning to kill Kakashi, and Sakura's healing stopped him from killing Karin. Sure he hasn't "done" anything, but it has little to do with the fact that he would have.
In my conception, he did do those things. If I tell a lie, yet my lie by sheer coincidence happens to be a truth without me realizing, it doesn't make me any less of a liar. I still committed the intentional act of lying. I just didn't succeed in stating a proposition that doesn't match reality. I would be even worse than a liar: an incompetent one.
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