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In alot of threads people seem to be making blind asumptions about secondary elements being a natural occurence. Heres my personal view on them. I believe they are chosen and developed by the user as an effective weapon or defense along with there current techniques, not a family trait or tied to there natural affinity.
Heres the 5 main elements as refference.
Water - Offensive/Defensive, Mid to long range
Strong aginst Fire - Weak against Earth
Fire - Offensive, Mid to long range
Strong aginst Wind - Weak against Water
Wind - Offensive/Defensive, Close to mid range
Strong aginst Lightning - Weak against Fire
Lightning - Offensive, Close range
Strong aginst Earth - Weak against Wind
Earth - Defensive/Offensive, Close to mid range
Strong aginst Water - Weak against Lightning
Thus far the main displays we have seen are here in order, if i missed out Itachi on purpose though because his secondary element hasn't been made clear. Hopefully this will go someway to explaining.
Kakashi - 1st Lightning - 2nd Water
Kakashi has low levels of chakra so controling the flow and amount of chakra precisely has always been key to his fighting style. Once he obtained Sharingan he was then able to see the flow of chakra. Water as an element is all about flow and control, it has defensive and offensive qualities and is also able to conduct his primary element of lighting. If there is a nearby water source a user can save on chakra but if needs be Kakashi is also able to recompose chakra elementaly within his body as we have seen with Raikiri. Given this evidence water seems the most logical choice for Kakashi to use especialy considering fire is probably the most common element in Konoha making water the least, this would help guard against a teams natural weakness.
Sauske - 1st Fire - 2nd Lightning
No matter what people say i still beleive Sauske's natural element is fire, just because he has pushed lightning further than Kakashi doesn't make it his affinity. The reason Kakashi taught Sauske Chidori was because of the abilities he already had; Sharingan, elemental recomposition and physical prowess i.e. Taijutsu. These are the neccessaties of the Jutsu. Fire and lightning are simmilar elements; both are generaly internally generated by the user, both are primarily destructive and most important of all they have only one element between them in the cycle, wind. While lightning is weak against wind, fire is made stronger by it. On the other hand fires weakness, water, is not particuly vunerable to lighining however water conducts lighting. Through developing Chidori Nagashi he has negated any weakness his elements have.
Sarutobi - 1st Fire - 2nd Earth
Although it has never been clearly stated it seems the thirds affinity was towards fire given he used mainly fire Jutsu. Another reason for this is that Orochimaru seems to have an earth affinity making fire an effective weapon against it. Also from what we seen in that fight he is skilled with eath Jutsu and used them in conjunction with his fire Justu. You may wonder why he didn't work on developing wind as his second element considering the genius he was described as but keep in mind that wind is described as a rare element not a rare affinity indicating it must be the most difficult or near impossible to learn without a natural affinity. Given that Madara is depicted carrying a huge fan to enhance his fire Jutsu in the past i think it is clear even he couldn't learn it.
Jiraiya - 1st Earth - 2nd Fire
Jiraiya has never been fully explained either but considering the level of his earth Jutsu compared to that of his fire Jutsu, i think its safe to say he is earth natured. I didn't explain Sarutobi fully because the reason Jiraiya chose to learn fire is the same as why the third chose earth, also its probably were Jiraiya learnt this style from. Fire is primaraly destructive and very effective in that respect, while earth is primaraly defensive. This balance in itself is good reason to have these two elements but when you take into acount that when earth and fire are combined the destructive ability of the Jutsu is greatly increased it makes this combination an even bigger plus. The final point is that they are once again one element apart meaning fires weakness, water, is weak against earth. Earths weakness, lighning, however is a destructive type like fire. This does not negate earths weakness like with Sauske but it does create a stalemate of sorts making this an effective combination.
Asuma - 1st Wind - 2nd Fire
This in an obvious choice for Asmua to learn; although he never displayed the abiltiy to combine the two, if he ever did his Jutsu would be immensley destructive and unable to be defended against by even water. Also Asuma has learned his natural weakness essentialy negating its effectivness against him, i can also see wind being an effective offense and defense againts water making this a well suited combination for battle.
As you can see above these combinations of elements have been chosen for there effectivness in combat both seperatley and combined. Each user has developed a fighting style around there choice of elements in order to defend against a weakness, increase attack power or even conserve chakra.
If anyone can remember another character who displayed the use of two elements who doesn't seem to correspond to my theory or if you have any thoughts that contradict it let me know.
Heres the 5 main elements as refference.
Water - Offensive/Defensive, Mid to long range
Strong aginst Fire - Weak against Earth
Fire - Offensive, Mid to long range
Strong aginst Wind - Weak against Water
Wind - Offensive/Defensive, Close to mid range
Strong aginst Lightning - Weak against Fire
Lightning - Offensive, Close range
Strong aginst Earth - Weak against Wind
Earth - Defensive/Offensive, Close to mid range
Strong aginst Water - Weak against Lightning
Thus far the main displays we have seen are here in order, if i missed out Itachi on purpose though because his secondary element hasn't been made clear. Hopefully this will go someway to explaining.
Kakashi - 1st Lightning - 2nd Water
Kakashi has low levels of chakra so controling the flow and amount of chakra precisely has always been key to his fighting style. Once he obtained Sharingan he was then able to see the flow of chakra. Water as an element is all about flow and control, it has defensive and offensive qualities and is also able to conduct his primary element of lighting. If there is a nearby water source a user can save on chakra but if needs be Kakashi is also able to recompose chakra elementaly within his body as we have seen with Raikiri. Given this evidence water seems the most logical choice for Kakashi to use especialy considering fire is probably the most common element in Konoha making water the least, this would help guard against a teams natural weakness.
Sauske - 1st Fire - 2nd Lightning
No matter what people say i still beleive Sauske's natural element is fire, just because he has pushed lightning further than Kakashi doesn't make it his affinity. The reason Kakashi taught Sauske Chidori was because of the abilities he already had; Sharingan, elemental recomposition and physical prowess i.e. Taijutsu. These are the neccessaties of the Jutsu. Fire and lightning are simmilar elements; both are generaly internally generated by the user, both are primarily destructive and most important of all they have only one element between them in the cycle, wind. While lightning is weak against wind, fire is made stronger by it. On the other hand fires weakness, water, is not particuly vunerable to lighining however water conducts lighting. Through developing Chidori Nagashi he has negated any weakness his elements have.
Sarutobi - 1st Fire - 2nd Earth
Although it has never been clearly stated it seems the thirds affinity was towards fire given he used mainly fire Jutsu. Another reason for this is that Orochimaru seems to have an earth affinity making fire an effective weapon against it. Also from what we seen in that fight he is skilled with eath Jutsu and used them in conjunction with his fire Justu. You may wonder why he didn't work on developing wind as his second element considering the genius he was described as but keep in mind that wind is described as a rare element not a rare affinity indicating it must be the most difficult or near impossible to learn without a natural affinity. Given that Madara is depicted carrying a huge fan to enhance his fire Jutsu in the past i think it is clear even he couldn't learn it.
Jiraiya - 1st Earth - 2nd Fire
Jiraiya has never been fully explained either but considering the level of his earth Jutsu compared to that of his fire Jutsu, i think its safe to say he is earth natured. I didn't explain Sarutobi fully because the reason Jiraiya chose to learn fire is the same as why the third chose earth, also its probably were Jiraiya learnt this style from. Fire is primaraly destructive and very effective in that respect, while earth is primaraly defensive. This balance in itself is good reason to have these two elements but when you take into acount that when earth and fire are combined the destructive ability of the Jutsu is greatly increased it makes this combination an even bigger plus. The final point is that they are once again one element apart meaning fires weakness, water, is weak against earth. Earths weakness, lighning, however is a destructive type like fire. This does not negate earths weakness like with Sauske but it does create a stalemate of sorts making this an effective combination.
Asuma - 1st Wind - 2nd Fire
This in an obvious choice for Asmua to learn; although he never displayed the abiltiy to combine the two, if he ever did his Jutsu would be immensley destructive and unable to be defended against by even water. Also Asuma has learned his natural weakness essentialy negating its effectivness against him, i can also see wind being an effective offense and defense againts water making this a well suited combination for battle.
As you can see above these combinations of elements have been chosen for there effectivness in combat both seperatley and combined. Each user has developed a fighting style around there choice of elements in order to defend against a weakness, increase attack power or even conserve chakra.
If anyone can remember another character who displayed the use of two elements who doesn't seem to correspond to my theory or if you have any thoughts that contradict it let me know.
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