Fantasy Serena vs Nebal

[Sevently]

VS

Eight-Dragon Serena VS The Sticky Dragon Nebal
Conditions
• Death battle
• No time limit
• No restrictions
Who wins ? And with what difficulty ?​

 

[Ramen]

What's all this hype for Nebal? Serena stomps

 

[Tirl]

Nebal nodiff

 

[grey matter]

Serena one shots.

 

[atlantisreturns]

Serena one shots lmao.

 

[Kouichi]

Serena stomps tbh.

 

[Seven777]

I'm going to assume its actually meant to be Historia Serena vs Nebal in the title, in which case Historia Serena stomps

 

[Takeover twin]

Im voting for Serena I’m pretty sure he could counter nebal and his sticky magic.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Serena one shots while doing his dance.

 

[Vis]

serena couldn’t one shot any of the ishgal gods, i don’t see how he would one shot Nebal once we start stacking everything up. (Stomping Wendy, then Wendy stomping him, then him stomping Wendy again, which I honestly would say puts him at a level around the Ishgal gods, at least)

but yeah, Serena shouldn’t struggle much regardless.

 

[grey matter]

serena couldn’t one shot any of the ishgal gods, i don’t see how he would one shot Nebal once we start stacking everything up. (Stomping Wendy, then Wendy stomping him, then him stomping Wendy again, which I honestly would say puts him at a level around the Ishgal gods, at least)

but yeah, Serena shouldn’t struggle much regardless.

Bradman couldn't one shot Levy of all people (who's probably even weaker than BOS Lucy).
August didn't one shot Oracion Seis or Cana.

Point, you can't use those to judge. Clearly Serena didn't go all out in that fight, and he still no diff'd 4 of them

 

[Axiomus]

serena couldn’t one shot any of the ishgal gods, i don’t see how he would one shot Nebal once we start stacking everything up. (Stomping Wendy, then Wendy stomping him, then him stomping Wendy again, which I honestly would say puts him at a level around the Ishgal gods, at least)

but yeah, Serena shouldn’t struggle much regardless.

Yeah, I don't see God Serena oneshotting. Nebal should be stronger than Jura at the very least. That said, stomping the 4 gods of Ishgar is more impressive than struggling with Wendy, so Serena should take this fairly easily. I'm going to say mid-diff.

 

[Vis]

Bradman couldn't one shot Levy of all people (who's probably even weaker than BOS Lucy).
August didn't one shot Oracion Seis or Cana.

Aren’t you the person who always argues that the in team battles, the strongest person’s performance should be gauged the most, not the weaker members?

Point, you can't use those to judge. Clearly Serena didn't go all out in that fight, and he still no diff'd 4 of them

But he didn’t one shot. He couldn’t one shot. He hasn’t shown the capability or any attacks to one-shot them. The attacks he’s shown so far were tanked by the Ishgal Gods for awhile, and unless you’re willing to argue that Serena won’t fight in-character for some reason and would randomly go all out and produce his higher end attacks (as in MP draining attacks) then this is irrelevant.

 

[atlantisreturns]

Yeah, I don't see God Serena oneshotting. Nebal should be stronger than Jura at the very least. That said, stomping the 4 gods of Ishgar is more impressive than struggling with Wendy, so Serena should take this fairly easily. I'm going to say mid-diff.

Nebal is a dragon , Serena is a dragon slayer . Hmm ...

It's a oneshot considering what Gray did to Mard Geer what DF Natsu could not. In this case the dragon isn't even stronger than him , it's actually weaker.

 

[grey matter]

Aren’t you the person who always argues that the in team battles, the strongest person’s performance should be gauged the most, not the weaker members?

Yep.
So we shouldn't judge by him not being able to one shot Jura.

We don't know how strong GOI are, all we do know is that they though they could take on Serena when they though he was an average Spriggan level. And that GOI are tiers above Jura. If we ever get GOI feats this arc, then we'll see.

But he didn’t one shot. He couldn’t one shot. He hasn’t shown the capability or any attacks to one-shot them. The attacks he’s shown so far were tanked by the Ishgal Gods for awhile, and unless you’re willing to argue that Serena won’t fight in-character for some reason and would randomly go all out and produce his higher end attacks (as in MP draining attacks) then this is irrelevant.

It's obviously because he didn't bother. Serena basically no diff'd them, he didn't feel the need to stronger attacks because they were fodder to him. He didn't use any high tier DS attacks like secret arts.
Would Natsu use his high end attack against fodder? OF course not.

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Nebal is a dragon , Serena is a dragon slayer . Hmm ...

It's a oneshot considering what Gray did to Mard Geer what DF Natsu could not. In this case the dragon isn't even stronger than him , it's actually weaker.

HE would one shot even without advantages lol

 

[Axiomus]

Nebal is a dragon , Serena is a dragon slayer . Hmm ...

It's a oneshot considering what Gray did to Mard Geer what DF Natsu could not. In this case the dragon isn't even stronger than him , it's actually weaker.

Dragons are far stronger than demons though. Most dragons don't simply get oneshotted, even against dragon slaying magic.

 

[atlantisreturns]

Dragons are far stronger than demons though. Most dragons don't simply get oneshotted, even against dragon slaying magic.

That's because the dragons in GMG were way stronger than the slayers at that point of time. You saw what a broken bones Erza did to an August tier dragon. I'm using slayer advantage to imply the slayers can actually oneshot dragons at least one or maybe two tiers above them.

Not that it matters here , Nebal is actually weaker than Serena , so the oneshot is inevitable.

 

[grey matter]

Dragons are far stronger than demons though. Most dragons don't simply get oneshotted, even against dragon slaying magic.

Eileen's dragon from got one shotted by Erza lol.

Which means Erza tiers one shot August tiers with slayer magic. (IMO August/dragon-Eileen are 3-4 tiers above Erza. which means slayer magic allows one shot at least 3-4 tiers ahead of the user)

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Dragons are far stronger than demons though. Most dragons don't simply get oneshotted, even against dragon slaying magic.

Slaying magic just multiplies damage.

GMG dragons were like 100 tiers ahead of even Laxus at GMG. Let's say slayer advantage multiplied damage by 30 times. 30 times 0.1% = 3% lol, I don't think Laxus did even 3% damage to Zirconis, he said it apparently didn't even tickle.

 

[Axiomus]

That's because the dragons in GMG were way stronger than the slayers at that point of time. You saw what a broken bones Erza did to an August tier dragon. I'm using slayer advantage to imply the slayers can actually oneshot dragons at least one or maybe two tiers above them.

Not that it matters here , Nebal is actually weaker than Serena , so the oneshot is inevitable.

Eileen's dragon from got one shotted by Erza lol.

Which means Erza tiers one shot August tiers with slayer magic. (IMO August/dragon-Eileen are 3-4 tiers above Erza. which means slayer magic allows one shot at least 3-4 tiers ahead of the user)

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Slaying magic just multiplies damage.

GMG dragons were like 100 tiers ahead of even Laxus at GMG. Let's say slayer advantage multiplied damage by 30 times. 30 times 0.1% = 3% lol, I don't think Laxus did even 3% damage to Zirconis, he said it apparently didn't even tickle.

Dragon Slaying magic is just the power of a dragon enchanted into a human. That's all it is. Saying slaying magic allows dragon slayers to oneshot dragons 2-3 tiers above them would mean that dragons could oneshot other dragons 2-3 tiers above them as well. Dragons are used to fighting against dragon slaying magic because they face the same power every time they fight each other.

Erza was just that strong. The attack power of her cherry blossom sword slashes is greater than the attack power of Irene's own Deus Sema. Having dragon slaying magic just allows Erza's attacks to get penetrate the dragon scales, which is otherwise impervious to all forms of damage. She honestly would have cut up August himself even without considering the slayer advantage (especially when you consider how Brandish was able to stab him). God Serena took an unknown number of attacks to take down the Wizard Saints, then they got up, and then he used 4 more dragon slaying attacks to finally keep them down. If he's not oneshotting Jura, I doubt he's oneshotting Nebal.

 

[grey matter]

Dragon Slaying magic is just the power of a dragon enchanted into a human. That's all it is. Saying slaying magic allows dragon slayers to oneshot dragons 2-3 tiers above them would mean that dragons could oneshot other dragons 2-3 tiers above them as well. Dragons are used to fighting against dragon slaying magic because they face the same power every time they fight each other.

I swear to god, I and @Jean Grey were discussing the exact same thing just a day or two earlier lol

Apparently, the super effective BS is applicable only when used by humans lol.

It's the same thing with Devil Slayer magic. In the end, Devil Slayer magic is just demon magic used against demons. Yet Gray one shotted Tempesta who was on his tier (since Tempesta held his own against LFD Natsu), and did lots of damage to Mard Geer, who took negligible damage from Dragon Force Natsu

Logically yeah, I completely agree with what you said. But the way 'slaying magic' works in FT is established, even if it's illogical.

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God Serena took an unknown number of attacks to take down the Wizard Saints, then they got up, and then he used 4 more dragon slaying attacks to finally keep them down. If he's not oneshotting Jura, I doubt he's oneshotting Nebal.

Cause Serena was playing with them? They were fodder to him and he treated them as such. He didn't use any of his high end attacks like secret art.

The logic you're using is same as Laxus used unknown number of attacks on Kiria, and hence can't one shot her.
But we know for a fact that Laxus didn't bother because she was fodder to him anyway. If Laxus was serious, she would've been instantly wrecked.