Discussion Shichibukai Vs Yonkou

[kkck]

BB defenses are terrible but we hardly have any idea of what his offense is like. This is what we have seen from him:

1.- DF power. Impressive in its ability to take away other DF powers and it is esentially impossible to escape. Whoever finally defeats him will have to do what WB did and take him out while being sucked in.

2.- Crazy strength. Ace is quite strong physically and so is luffy and they took quite some damage when BB punched them. Not sure how relevant his strength would be against people that matter though.

3.- Humongous capacity to take damage. IMHO even luffy's rubber body is dwarfed by BB in this aspect. He took BB spear and an earthquake to the head and didn't die which is quite something. This is even more impressive considering BB said he takes more damage than what others normally would.

4.- Offense. This is the baffling part about BB. What the fuck does he do about this? He got shanks so there probably is something more to him in this aspect. His gravity can hold people down and perhaps gravity itself does damage but overall it just does not seem like enough. He seems to have knowledge about haki and it is possible he can use it. Dunno, I think this will surprise us in the future.

 

[Primecut]

BB defenses are terrible but we hardly have any idea of what his offense is like. This is what we have seen from him:

1.- DF power. Impressive in its ability to take away other DF powers and it is esentially impossible to escape. Whoever finally defeats him will have to do what WB did and take him out while being sucked in.

2.- Crazy strength. Ace is quite strong physically and so is luffy and they took quite some damage when BB punched them. Not sure how relevant his strength would be against people that matter though.

3.- Humongous capacity to take damage. IMHO even luffy's rubber body is dwarfed by BB in this aspect. He took BB spear and an earthquake to the head and didn't die which is quite something. This is even more impressive considering BB said he takes more damage than what others normally would.

4.- Offense. This is the baffling part about BB. What the fuck does he do about this? He got shanks so there probably is something more to him in this aspect. His gravity can hold people down and perhaps gravity itself does damage but overall it just does not seem like enough. He seems to have knowledge about haki and it is possible he can use it. Dunno, I think this will surprise us in the future.

I'm hoping Blackbeard was jobbing to Whitebeard on purpose with how bad he got beat. Of course that isnt likely, so I'll assume he can only beat down folks smaller and weaker than him. He did tank an earthquake to the head but that probably wasnt Whitebeard's best quake considering he was touching blackbeard (which should diminish his power greatly) AND nearly dead (weaken quake as well).

Hmmm...I'd say Whitebeard stomped him because he is freakishly powerful without the devilfruit due to his strength and his haki. Nullifying someone who relies completely on their DF would be more useful, like Kizaru/Akainu/Aokiji. They havent done anything impressive without their fruits while Whitebeard has so perhaps he could stomp them 1 on 1? Kizaru vs. Blackbeard would be of interest to see if he could suck all his light into the black hole.

I think Blackbeard could also suck people into his black hole completely and then release them, since he did it to an entire town. Not sure how this would work as an offensive tactic if the enemy just goes offense quick against him though. He did claim he had infinite gravity but that hasnt been shown because Ace and Whitebeard could still move while being sucked in....looks like he needs to beef up his gravitational pulls IMO.

 

[DLord.Van.Buuren]

i think BB might find a logia fruit in the future so he could strenghten his week defences .

 

[NoLimit89]

i think BB might find a logia fruit in the future so he could strenghten his week defences .

I'm betting on that BB is actually 3 person conjoined and that he's gonna get one logia, one zoan and one paramecia.

logia - darkness (most evil logia)
paramacia - quake (most destructive paramecia)
zoan - probably a mythical zoan to go along with the fact that he always goes for the strongest fruits. Also, maybe it can make up for his lack of logia intangibility like how marco is almost like a flame fruit. What do you guys think of the mythical genbu and ability to control water and get rock solid defense? I mean, BB is kinda weak in defense.

 

[Gcat88]

Well if WB was that strong and Shanks was able to hold him off, plus the fact that theres two more, I think that the Yonkou could defeat the Shichibukai.

 

[kkck]

I don't think BB would gain intangbility even if he does steal logia powers from someone. His darkness would still make him unable to become such a thing.