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Re: Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

For the blow which took off Eren's head, seeing the left leg's posture on this page, i would say it was a kick executed at high speed. Maybe she even hardened her leg like she did with her neck in a previous chapter.[/Spoiler]
If it indeed is a highspeed kick, then this chapter gave quite a bit of credibility to the theory that the female titan is Annie. Although, Annie does not fit all the criteria to be the spy for now. The other commander besides Revi stated that it was a veteran who joined before Eren and co.
 
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Concerning the 24 hours rule... I must post in spoilers tags even after the chapter was released by the Manga Editors in english? I thpught it was only for raws... and I don't have to use it now right? But could I remove the spoiler tags in my previous post then if I think it is annoying?
 

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Re: Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

If it indeed is a highspeed kick, then this chapter gave quite a bit of credibility to the theory that the female titan is Annie. Although, Annie does not fit all the criteria to be the spy for now. The other commander besides Revi stated that it was a veteran who joined before Eren and co.

Her nose also looks a lot like Annie's nose :O
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/76322/shingeki-no-kyojin_v7_ch29_by_tdx/20
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/29939/shingeki-no-kyojin_v5_by_gantz-waitingroom/117

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Re: Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

If it indeed is a highspeed kick, then this chapter gave quite a bit of credibility to the theory that the female titan is Annie. Although, Annie does not fit all the criteria to be the spy for now. The other commander besides Revi stated that it was a veteran who joined before Eren and co.
One thing to consider about Annie's kicks are it may not necessarily be exclusive to her but is probably a skill by veterans of the army or perhaps a standard form of fighting for them. In addition to the commander already using 5 years ago as a criterion for judgement among his own team means that there is a huge chance that the person is a veteran - and clearly we can see that from the battle difference between her and Eren. That I am as I earlier stated doubtful that it is Annie since this looks like too much a long time pro. Furthermore, the commander seems to suspect the spy as someone from the scouting legion is another thing to consider, had Annie been the spy then she would have ideally stayed in the legion, especially since he had given misinformation from among his own group which the female titan had clearly used in trying to locate Eren.

Anycase looking at how the Female titan devoured Eren it looks like she will be using herself as a transport system XD. I guess given that she hasn't actually devoured anybody aside from him it would be quite safe to keep him inside her as there would be no corpses to suffocate or impale him.
 

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Very quick read. So action-packed. It's quite obvious the girl titan doesn't intend to fight with Eren. Seems like her objective was to kidnap Eren and bring him to wherever these titans' headquarters is. I'm quite thrilled to know what happens next chapter. If that girl titan happens to escape from Rivaille or Mikasa, then we're off to the where this titans are made.

Was also confused to what really made Titan Eren's head get ripped off, but it's most probably a high-speed kick to the head.
 
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Very quick read. So action-packed. It's quite obvious the girl titan doesn't intend to fight with Eren. Seems like her objective was to kidnap Eren and bring him to wherever these titans' headquarters is. I'm quite thrilled to know what happens next chapter. If that girl titan happens to escape from Rivaille or Mikasa, then we're off to the where this titans are made.

Was also confused to what really made Titan Eren's head get ripped off, but it's most probably a high-speed kick to the head.
I saw her fight with Eren as just her being tired as the hits she took from him or when she fumbled did show exhaustion, but as a pro she clearly took advantage of that to lure him at times and dodge the last minute. She's still out to capture him no doubt but I think once she got her second wind back after dodging enough times and regenerating to fight properly she took Eren out without a problem.

However, the fact that she is exhausted is a great thing for Rivalle to fight her - and Mikasa assuming she pulls herself together and works with him. She maybe nearing her limit at this point - and I don't think Eren is completely exhausted yet to get his own second wind and possibly transform inside her gut assuming Rivalle and Mikasa buy him enough time to regenerate and wake up before she reaches her destination or calls for back up.
 

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Re: Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

Very quick read. So action-packed. It's quite obvious the girl titan doesn't intend to fight with Eren. Seems like her objective was to kidnap Eren and bring him to wherever these titans' headquarters is. I'm quite thrilled to know what happens next chapter. If that girl titan happens to escape from Rivaille or Mikasa, then we're off to the where this titans are made.

Was also confused to what really made Titan Eren's head get ripped off, but it's most probably a high-speed kick to the head.
That is my best guess as well, simply because it would not make much sense within the plot to kill Eren right now. It is possible she was out to kill him but it would make more sense to kidnap him, take him to Titan HQ, convince him to switch sides, and kill him at her leisure should he say know. There is also the possibility she was sent by his father or someone with connections to his father.

And if they do go to where Titan's are made that would be a phenomenal twist.

I saw her fight with Eren as just her being tired as the hits she took from him or when she fumbled did show exhaustion, but as a pro she clearly took advantage of that to lure him at times and dodge the last minute. She's still out to capture him no doubt but I think once she got her second wind back after dodging enough times and regenerating to fight properly she took Eren out without a problem.
I think she was initially surprised when he turned into a Titan, and overpowered when he went berserk, after he decided to avenge his comrades. Being stronger and more experience she was able to fend off his blows and counter attack as soon as an opening was presented. When he returned to his senses she had that opportunity.

However, the fact that she is exhausted is a great thing for Rivalle to fight her - and Mikasa assuming she pulls herself together and works with him. She maybe nearing her limit at this point - and I don't think Eren is completely exhausted yet to get his own second wind and possibly transform inside her gut assuming Rivalle and Mikasa buy him enough time to regenerate and wake up before she reaches her destination or calls for back up.
So far she has not just been strong but crafty too. It would not surprise me if she did not even bother to fight Mikasa and Rivalle but immediately ran away.

Concerning the 24 hours rule... I must post in spoilers tags even after the chapter was released by the Manga Editors in english? I thpught it was only for raws... and I don't have to use it now right? But could I remove the spoiler tags in my previous post then if I think it is annoying?
Please use spoiler tags for 24 hours after the chapter is available in English. I apologize if the rules thread says otherwise and will update if that is so. Because Mangastream generally release Bleach, Naruto, and One Piece in English before raws are available online it is easier to start the spoiler period when the new chapter is in English. For the sake of rules being easy to follow and fair to all fandoms spoiler rules are enforced the same way in all forums. Because we know longer host raws we do not expect all members to know raws are available, so even for chapters with easily accessible raws it is easier to base the spoiler period on Edited Mangas. In the past the spoiler period did start when raws were released but the rules have been updated to reflect changes in the online community.

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The difference in experience is really astonishing. I wonder what she used in the p34 cutting technique. Eren despite all his strengh and anger barely damaged her.
Also when she damage her jaw purposely to increase the size of his mouth like a snake, that's quite an insane ability. I wonder if there is a kind of trick or if it is just brute force.
I'm not against a girl fight :-), but I'm afraid Misaka genius won't be enough this time. Now that Eren has been captured, it could be interesting that he learn how to use his titan power directly from the titan himself but i wonder how it can be done without spoilering the titan mistery too much. So I have still a little hope that human side can win this battle.


Concerning the pics contest issue, I still prefer the old image. Having a human and a titan together is more representative of what Shingeki is
Eren still does not even know how to harden his skin as she does. He'll probably have to learn by experience, assuming he has not been killed.

This is how I am thinking about how she opened her mouth so wide: except for the neck and given enough time, every inch of a Titans body can just regenerate. She simply took advantage of that, ripping the skin around her mouth off so she could open her mouth wider. After enough time the skin will simply regenerate. A clever way to take advantage of Titan physiology.
 

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Re: Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

One thing to consider about Annie's kicks are it may not necessarily be exclusive to her but is probably a skill by veterans of the army or perhaps a standard form of fighting for them. In addition to the commander already using 5 years ago as a criterion for judgement among his own team means that there is a huge chance that the person is a veteran - and clearly we can see that from the battle difference between her and Eren. That I am as I earlier stated doubtful that it is Annie since this looks like too much a long time pro. Furthermore, the commander seems to suspect the spy as someone from the scouting legion is another thing to consider, had Annie been the spy then she would have ideally stayed in the legion, especially since he had given misinformation from among his own group which the female titan had clearly used in trying to locate Eren.

Anycase looking at how the Female titan devoured Eren it looks like she will be using herself as a transport system XD. I guess given that she hasn't actually devoured anybody aside from him it would be quite safe to keep him inside her as there would be no corpses to suffocate or impale him.
Very good points -- then I wonder if she is related or the like? Or she could just be someone else, entirely >.>

And I think she simply put Eren in her mouth -- I don't think she swallowed or even bit off his legs. I could be wrong, though, but it also looked like she's guarding her face with her hands.

Nevertheless, these last few chapters have had me on the edge of my sit >: O a something I haven't had for a very long time...

Since this will be a live action movie, I wonder how much longer this will be? Thankfully, it doesn't seem like Naruto/Bleach long.
 

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Hard to say what she did with, or to, Eren right now. If she wants to keep him alive I am sure there is a way. I doubt it would be that hard for her, considering how much experience she has using her powers as a Titan.

I agree with Hamy: The female Titan seems to experienced to be someone as young as Annie. My opinion is that she will be a new character, or a character only seen in passing. The female Titan will be the first introduced villain and her identity does not need to be a shocking plot twist.

The last few chapters have had me on the edge of my seat as well. This entire arc has been exceptional, easily one of the best manga serialized right now. This months cliffhanger was exceptional as well. I can not wait until the next issue is out.

I suspect Shingeki will last for a long time. Do not forget that it is a relatively new manga, debuting in September 2009, and only recently popular. It is very popular in Japan right now, I'm sure Kodansha hopes for a long serialization. Not Naruto, One Piece, or Bleach long I am sure. As a monthly it will probably never have as many chapters as they do. But it would not be unreasonable to expect 25 volumes or more. Fullmetal Alchemist lasted 27 volumes and almost ten years, I expect the same from Shingeki. I doubt it has even reached the peak of it's popularity: realistically the movie could make it even more popular. And I still would not doubt that there will also be a Shingeki anime. I hope there will be, at least.
 

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Re: Shingeki no Kyojin by ISAYAMA Hajime

Very good points -- then I wonder if she is related or the like? Or she could just be someone else, entirely >.>

And I think she simply put Eren in her mouth -- I don't think she swallowed or even bit off his legs. I could be wrong, though, but it also looked like she's guarding her face with her hands.

Nevertheless, these last few chapters have had me on the edge of my sit >: O a something I haven't had for a very long time...

Since this will be a live action movie, I wonder how much longer this will be? Thankfully, it doesn't seem like Naruto/Bleach long.
I agree, fillers wouldn't go well with this type of manga. The interesting plot and psychological aspect are the selling points of Shingeki no Kyojin, at least for me anyway, so maybe some side stories from the past (Before Eren's time period).

Re-reading it looks like the female titan did just put Eren in her mouth, not swallow him. Judging by Eren's condition, escaping from that regenerating mouth will be a challenge even for him.

I honestly can't imagine how they could set up Shingeki no Kyojin as a live action movie. I'm hoping for the best. Although, I don't want Shingeki no Kyojin to get an anime right now, its too soon for it. Looking at the old FMA anime adaption, they messed halfway through the anime and dramatically deviated from the story. Now a couple of years later, they do a remake. Same with Hunter x Hunter.
 
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I agree with Hamy: The female Titan seems to experienced to be someone as young as Annie. My opinion is that she will be a new character, or a character only seen in passing. The female Titan will be the first introduced villain and her identity does not need to be a shocking plot twist.
Dunno if Annie is experienced enough but remember the way she handled both Eren and Ryner with her close combat techniques. Her skills weren't at a trainee level that's for sure. Now imagine if Annie is using her titan form since months or years (long enough to be used to it), don't you think she can fight so skillfully like the female titan did in this chapter ?

The last few chapters have had me on the edge of my seat as well. This entire arc has been exceptional, easily one of the best manga serialized right now. This months cliffhanger was exceptional as well. I can not wait until the next issue is out.
I 'm feeling the same. This past few months, Blade of the immortal and Shingeki no kyojin are the series i enjoy reading the most.
 

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Insane chapter.

With every new chapter this manga turns my expectations upside down.

And on Shingeki no Kyojin length: in his interview, Isayama stated to plan 20 volumes. So, if he goes with his original concept, it's safe to assume that this manga will border on 30 volumes.
 

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I agree, fillers wouldn't go well with this type of manga. The interesting plot and psychological aspect are the selling points of Shingeki no Kyojin, at least for me anyway, so maybe some side stories from the past (Before Eren's time period).
The problem usually is that monthlies take to long to animate without changing the plot. The original FMA anime or Soul Eater are pretty typical: the studio runs out of chapters to animate and create an anime only ending. If they do animate Shingeki I hope they follow the model Nodame Cantobile used: start with a 24 episode season, come back a six months or a year later with another 12 episodes, then started mixing movies and more 12 episode seasons until the manga ends. That way they would not have to change anything.

Re-reading it looks like the female titan did just put Eren in her mouth, not swallow him. Judging by Eren's condition, escaping from that regenerating mouth will be a challenge even for him.
I am not sure. It looks like she had swallowed here and was wiping blood from her chin. But it is not possible to tell definitively, in my opinion. There is a strong possibility that she is keeping him prisoner in her mouth in order to transport him.

Dunno if Annie is experienced enough but remember the way she handled both Eren and Ryner with her close combat techniques. Her skills weren't at a trainee level that's for sure. Now imagine if Annie is using her titan form since months or years (long enough to be used to it), don't you think she can fight so skillfully like the female titan did in this chapter ?
She was trained in hand to hand combat since she was a child, she should have been able to handle two new recruits. She is so young though, a teenager. I don't know if she could have had much combat training as a titan to have such a high level of control over her own powers while also being able to control mindless Titans. Also, there has not been any clues in the text that she could be a villain. She did not join the scouts to illustrate that despite being a talented soldier she was overwhelmed by fear, preferring to hide within the walls rather than fighting for freedom. The female Titan has been depicted as absolutely fearless, with a personality and tactics comparable to Irvin's.

Insane chapter.

With every new chapter this manga turns my expectations upside down.

And on Shingeki no Kyojin length: in his interview, Isayama stated to plan 20 volumes. So, if he goes with his original concept, it's safe to assume that this manga will border on 30 volumes.
20 - 30 volumes seems a reasonable length for Shingeki. The pace is such that many volumes would not require any stretching.
 

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I seriously hope the series goes 20+ volumes. It's one of the more suspenseful manga I've read in a while. Plus, Mikasa = LOVE.
 

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Considering the pace of the story I can not imagine it lasting any less than twenty volumes. For all of the suspense and excitement not a single antagonist has been introduced, nor are we much closer to the truth about the Titans than we were when the series began. it is almost as though the first four volumes were a prologue with the story proper beginning when Eren joined the Scouting Legion.
 

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Yeah. The series kind of bases its story on the "we're screwed and don't know what's going on" kind of post-apocalyptic story. It definitely doesn't seem like a quick series. It's slowly developing its world and expanding it, while the mysteries of the giants get explored and prove to have more unanswered questions. It'll go for a while. And probably eventually get an anime. There's a live action movie in 2013 set already, right?
 

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Once it became clear that people can turn into Titans Shingeki started setting itself up as a long, shounen series. Now there are conspirators, villains, and likely more to the titans than simply being another species and force of nature. Considering that the first three volumes were an extended battle and that volume four was mostly flashbacks, the plot and world building is really only beginning now.

Yeah, there is a live action movie filming right now. I do not have much hope for it either. I do not trust it to have a large special effects budget and am willing to believe the cast will be dominated by models, not actors. I also expect an anime at some point, though Kodansha has been known to limit titles to live action adaptions of late. Bloody Monday and Yankee-kun to Magane-chan come to mind, though Shingeki is far more popular than either ever were.
 

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http://tdx-manga.livejournal.com/
Chapter #30 was released!
Amazing as always. :hip

Rivaile beat the titan a lot. Thanks to him they(he and Mikasa) were able to rescue Eren.
The interesting point was when the female titan was crying after Eren was taken from her...weird and curious, guess she really like him in some way. Too bad her identity will remain a secret for some more time...

Also for one moment Rivaile made a sad face(enough to Mikasa being able to note) before continue the rescue mission. Even his cold demeanor couldn't withstand seeing all his squadmates killed

But the best scene was Eren remembering his childhood when he and Mikasa were watching the scout legion returning from a failed mission through the hopeful eyes of two children, and finally realizing why these people had a sad and defeated look he started to cry. :o
 
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Indeed a great chapter.
I must say that the way of fighting Isayama created is really genious. Combined with the art of the manga, it makes really awesome combat scenes. This chapter in particular was pretty intense.
 

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What a bitter ending this chapter had. Political consequences for Irvin, imprisonment for Eren, more new questions yet no answers to old ones. The hope generated by the first arc has been exhausted. It seems that home, friend, and neighbor could end up being as dangerous as titan.

Rivaile beat the titan a lot. Thanks to him they(he and Mikasa) were able to rescue Eren.
The interesting point was when the female titan was crying after Eren was taken from her...weird and curious, guess she really like him in some way. Too bad her identity will remain a secret for some more time...

Also for one moment Rivaile made a sad face(enough to Mikasa being able to note) before continue the rescue mission. Even his cold demeanor couldn't withstand seeing all his squadmates killed
But the best scene was Eren remembering his childhood when he and Mikasa were watching the scout legion returning from a failed mission through the hopeful eyes of two children, and finally realizing why these people had a sad and defeated look he started to cry. :o

Rivaile is a champ. Brilliant how he went for her eyes first, then immobilized her. His grief upon seeing his fallen squad was brilliantly subtle, the grief on his face was palatable, even as he passed them by. One of my favorite scenes was the grim look he gave to Petra's father on returning.

I am definitely intrigued by the female titan crying, even more so because I have no clue why she would be reduced to tears in defeat. I don't think she was crying for Eren's sake. Maybe she, just like Irvin, could face consequences for her failure. Whatever happens I can not wait to see what happens next month.

Indeed a great chapter.
I must say that the way of fighting Isayama created is really genious. Combined with the art of the manga, it makes really awesome combat scenes. This chapter in particular was pretty intense.
The 3D maneuvers are very cool, a very creative way to fight. I think I like that so few characters have any supernatural powers, most of the combat in Shingeki is conventional and power levels differ based on skill, training, instinct, and experience. Who has the stronger special move is not even a factor, the video game feel is largely absent.
 
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