Discussion Snek Charmer/Sea Snek

[O_n_Sly]

Serpent Master is what Traum and co call theirs, no reason no to believe it has another name. And Endorsi said hers is called The Breeder. Either SIU abandoned the snake charmer tag or it truly is only a nickname

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And the t/l is completely different from the bs we got earlier

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

... and BREEDER isn't a formal name anymore more than Snake Charmer is.

Be upfront - are you suggesting Androssi isn't referring to SC with the "breeder" translation, or is that a THIRD snek entity? You still haven't answered the question.

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Serpent Master is what Traum and co call theirs, no reason no to believe it has another name. And Endorsi said hers is called The Breeder. Either SIU abandoned the snake charmer tag or it truly is only a nickname

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And the t/l is completely different from the bs we got earlier

 

[O_n_Sly]

Snake charmer is the breeder! Who else would she be referring to that looks similar!

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Snake charmer is the breeder! Who else would she be referring to that looks similar!

OK, now that we've established that, what exactly is different from what's been said on both sides of this?

BTW, breeding is an act that SS took literally. I'm now even more convinced of the connection. Thanks!

 

[O_n_Sly]

OK, now that we've established that, what exactly is different from what's been said on both sides of this?

BTW, breeding is an act that SS took literally. I'm now even more convinced of the connection. Thanks!

For instance the snake does not eat itself and most of the points you’ve made no longer apply. And if you’re telling me the fan t/l portrayed the same meaning WEBTOON has then continue to remain ignorant.

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Traum did not capture the breeder and strip it of its humanity lol

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

For instance the snake does not eat itself and most of the points you’ve made no longer apply. And if you’re telling me the fan t/l portrayed the same meaning WEBTOON has then continue to remain ignorant.

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Traum did not capture the breeder and strip it of its humanity lol

I wasn't aware that my position was contingent on the snake somehow eating itself (as opposed to pieces of itself)? Do tell. Did I speak to how the mechanics of the transformation occurred? Hmm

Source on the second part?

 

[O_n_Sly]

W/e the 2 are entirely different, I’ll leave it there.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

W/e the 2 are entirely different, I’ll leave it there.

This is like pulling teeth.

What, exactly, is different? Which part of my claim is affected, specifically?

I (everyone) already knew it was a resemblance to SC (breeder). I (everyone) already knew it fed snakes part of itself and killed the rest to raise the strongest.

What has changed, other than referring to SC as "breeder" this time, which is just yet another nickname for the same entity? A name which you already agree is still just SC.

OK, and?

 

[O_n_Sly]

as stated by Endorsi the Breeder didn’t feed itself snakes it fed snake strands to its kids, Endorsi. Then after she became the best, sold her off!

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The horn on Endorsi’s head must be a by product from the snake power she absorbed from eating this snake strands.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

as stated by Endorsi the Breeder didn’t feed itself snakes it fed snake strands to its kids, Endorsi. Then after she became the best, sold her off!

Androssi wasn't SC's kid. Not any more than any other princess candidate. What are you talking about? The only snake byproduct kids seem to be the LPB twins, which actually supports that SC = SS.

Why wouldn't a snake that creates other snakes (also known as 'breeding') not be referencing it's own baby snakes as 'kids' as it raises those snakes, feeding them parts of itself?

The horn on Endorsi’s head must be a by product from the snake power she absorbed from eating this snake strands.

But, let's say you're correct. Why don't other princesses have horns? Androssi wasn't his only creation. Do ANY other cultivated princesses have horns? Hell, does SC itself have horns? That's rhetorical, because no.



In any event, the main point remains. It was so similar she froze up. She suggests the snakes are slightly different upon closer expectation. That's it. She doesn't even confirm they are different entities. She leaves that door open. That's called a literary HINT.

Nothing has really changed, other than your suggestion Androssi might have eaten snake, which still seems unclear.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Androssi wasn't SC kid. Not any more than any other princess candidate. What are you talking about?

Why wouldn't a snake that creates other snakes (also known as 'breeding') not be referencing it's own baby snakes as 'kids' as it raises those snakes?



But, let's say you're correct. Why don't other princesses have horns? Androssi wasn't his only creation.



In any event, the main point remains. It was so similar she froze up. She suggests the snakes are slightly different upon closer expectation. That's it. She doesn't even confirm they are different. She leaves that door open.

Nothing has really changed, other than your suggestion Androssi might have eaten snake, which still seems unclear.

Endorsi stated that she had an adopted family and that Breeder killed them in their sleep. When he raised her long enough he then sold her to that man. Remember that brief flashback when she explained killing all the girls for a better meal, makes an awful lot of sense after eating snake strands

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MO the breeder scouts orphan girls with potential. I doubt a thread snake was needed to determine if the likes of Yuri or Mas were worthy! We know that Elaine was chosen because of her unique anima ability!

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Endorsi stated that she had an adopted family and that Breeder killed them in her sleep. When he raised her long enough he then sold her to that man. Remember that brief flashback when she explained killing all the files for a better meal, makes an awful lot of sense after eating snake strands

Fair enough, Androssi ate snake. PTSD. An interesting factoid about SCs methods.


But to the topic of this thread - how does that mean that SC can't have upgraded snakes?

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Or have been otherwise altered?

 

[O_n_Sly]

B/c Endorsi described a heartless, scumbag only true to it’s cause! Serpent Master, whom has been mislead on the current situation, is doing whatever it takes to protect his family!

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

The breeder scouts orphan girls with potential.

Don't we all, really?

 

[O_n_Sly]

Im not trying to go back and forth here but from recollection Endorsi’s interaction with The Breeder occurred before entering inner tower/ before her climb!

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

B/c Endorsi described a heartless, scumbag only true to it’s cause! Serpent Master, whom has been mislead on the current situation, is doing whatever it takes to protect his family!

And what is apparently different in this case?

In this case Laura is the love interest, with offspring from the SS.

Androssi, as you pointed out, is unrelated (biologically) street trash.

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Im not trying to go back and forth here but from recollection Endorsi’s interaction with The Breeder occurred before entering inner tower/ before her climb!

Relevance?

 

[O_n_Sly]

The Serpent Master is somewhere btw R-HR and The Breeder couldn’t have been either or else it would not have been recreated on the HF(no Rankers allowed)

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

The Serpent Master is somewhere btw R-HR and The Breeder had couldn’t of had been either or else it would never of been recreated on the HF(no Rankers allowed)

It was a sworn enemy, not a visiting and traveling regular that was there to leave a data imprint.

That rule didn't apply.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Lol excuses!

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So what’s Traum’s reasoning for capturing the breeder and renaming it Serpent Master?

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Definitely sticking with the Endorsi horn theory now both Orari and Yorari had horns as well

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Who tf knows?!

My complete speculation is that it fell for its mark (Laura). Hence she is dead to Rei as well. Think of how he treated NenNen as a womb to only breed as he wanted, and not for love.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 10, 2023, Original Post Date: Apr 10, 2023 ---

So what’s Traum’s reasoning for capturing the breeder and renaming it Serpent Master?

Actually, you addressed your own question without realizing it.

SS obtained feelings it should not have obtained (per the intro when shown in the bowl). Laura is clearly the object of those feelings. There was a change with SS whereas it was completely emotionally empty before.

Same as SC as you point out was emotionless and cold.



As for the name - for the hundredth time whatever Androssi calls it is just a nickname and her own name for it. In this case it was just a name she created that described what it does - breeds (princesses and/or snakes) or charms (as a snake charmer or any other animal charmer IRL raises animals). It's descriptive from her perspective, and obviously not even very creative. It would be like me calling you Forum Poster A Lot.

Rei wouldn't share that name. It was literally an Androssi pet name.