Discussion SuperNovas alliances

[Don Chinjao]

We saw kid / Hawkins / Apoo to join forces and luffy/ law i was thinking the obvious that since the supernovas were 11 and if you counter zoro/Killer been the 1rst mates of luffy/kid it goes to like 9 Supernovas Captains because zoro and killer are supernovas who are in the crew of others supernovas. We have 9 supernovas Captains and 2 alliances so far do you think urouge/ x drake / Bonnie/ Capone are gonna make another alliance? or after an incident they will join forces with an existing one? So we will have 3 alliances or 2 alliances? Iam curious to see what will happen

 

[danzouismadara]

Bonnie- mayberevolutionary
x drake-kaido
Urouge and Capone probably went under other yonkous, or were smashed in the new world.

I think we will see new super rookies as candidates from now on.

 

[Don Chinjao]

Iam curious about something in both anime and manga after the war we see x-drake go to that Snow island and encountering Scotch who was the the one responsible for the securing of the island and we saw scorth fighting with caribou after the skip-time and i dont know what to think.
I thought x-drake won this encounter at 1rst but since scortch was still remained there r guarding that island for kaido did that means that x-drake suffered a lost from that guy who at 721 manga we see caribou beating him? Seriously if x-drake lost from scorth who got beaten by caribou thats a huge turn off at least from because i was expecting more stuff from someone with drakes skills because Scotch doesnt seem to be a haki user if was he wouldnt have problems facing caribou.

 

[Razh]

Darke could have beaten Scotch to lure out Kaidou so that he can join him.

I had a theory that maybe Drake went to work under Kaidou as a spy for WG, to help take him down from the inside.

 

[leiatte]

Darke could have beaten Scotch to lure out Kaidou so that he can join him.

I had a theory that maybe Drake went to work under Kaidou as a spy for WG, to help take him down from the inside.

I hope that Drake joined Kaido's crew and is now one of his right hands. I think it would be cool to see a Supernova join a yonkou. But I would be fine if He was doing great in the new world on his own too. Hmm, Im not sure what I want but Im sure Oda will come up with something good.

 

[MBVC]

Darke could have beaten Scotch to lure out Kaidou so that he can join him.

I had a theory that maybe Drake went to work under Kaidou as a spy for WG, to help take him down from the inside.

Do you think him as a double agent for the WG?

I find this very interesting: http://www.biography.com/people/francis-drake-9278809

In real history, this man was known as The Queen's Pirate.

Anyway, it would be great if the SN divide into 2 groups taking down 2 of the yonkou at the same time. This will turn the worst generation into the worst ......wait for it ...... legendary generation ever written in the history of pirating.

 

[Razh]

Do you think him as a double agent for the WG?

I find this very interesting: http://www.biography.com/people/francis-drake-9278809

In real history, this man was known as The Queen's Pirate.

Anyway, it would be great if the SN divide into 2 groups taking down 2 of the yonkou at the same time. This will turn the worst generation into the worst ......wait for it ...... legendary generation ever written in the history of pirating.

I think it's possible. Since Scotch is alive and well and Drake looked fine on the group cover made by Oda and since we found out that Kaidou is not the type of person who would leave him in peace after challenging him it seems that he had joined him. And since he is a former marine, and a relatively highely ranked one, at that, it's possible he's a double agent.

I knew that Francis Drake was a corsair, which would make him a real world equivalent of Shichibukai in One Piece. Might mean something too, although from what I've seen so far, Oda is very cautious not to allow his real history pirate inspirations to give possible spoilers to his story.

 

[Sproumfch]

Well what's more or less sure is that a large part of the 9 you counted will follow Luffy when he will be Pirate King.
The fact is that now, two alliances are known and a third may exist.
I think the Apoo/Hawkins/Kid alliance is here to show how strong a Yonkou can be. They also may be here to hurt Shanks and so anger Luffy. We will see.
For the moment I'm more betting on 2 alliances that will become one soon enough, when Luffy will kick their ass


But what we haven't think of is an alliance between Kaidou and the WG.
Look,
He tried to stop WB from attacking the Marine HQ (don't find the exact link, where a Marine tell it) but Shanks stopped him.
He seems to have strong links with a Shishibukai who might be controlled by the Gorosei (or something like that).
So, does Kaidou has an arrangement with the WG where he has to overcome all the Pirates in the NW?
Law says something very interesting. The Marines are preparing something big and we don't know what.
Could it be an alliance with WG/Marines? I'd like to think yes ^^

 

[HereNThere]

I would like Bonney to join Law and Luffy, which would leave Capone, Uroge, and Drake(he deserves better though) to team up should they choose to align forces. Each of the Supernova's would be in 3 Pirate team, which would be nice.

 

[MBVC]

Here is another possibility:

Law + Luffy + XDrake vs Kaidou

Kid + Apoo + Hawkins vs big mam

The remaining 3 can go either way, I dislike the idea taking down 3/4 yonkou, since one of the group will be wiped out without any doubt. Therefore, it's natural to erase those old timers like big-mam and Kaidou. After then, the targets of the next phase is the successors of the old era: BB & Shanks. Finally, the SN will fight among themselves for the yonkou positions and the top one.

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On the other hand, Luffy might cross over to Kid's alliance, thus Law has to team up with XDrake and the other 3 pirate groups. In this situation, we have 6 SN overthrow big-mam and the remaining 5 SN fighting Kaidou.

 

[KungPaoChicken]

The Marines + Luffy. Haha lets go completely opposite sides on the same team.

 

[tony p]

- Bonney has been beaten up by BB and delivered to Sakazuki.

 

[iFrozt]

Iam curious about something in both anime and manga after the war we see x-drake go to that Snow island and encountering Scotch who was the the one responsible for the securing of the island and we saw scorth fighting with caribou after the skip-time and i dont know what to think.
I thought x-drake won this encounter at 1rst but since scortch was still remained there r guarding that island for kaido did that means that x-drake suffered a lost from that guy who at 721 manga we see caribou beating him? Seriously if x-drake lost from scorth who got beaten by caribou thats a huge turn off at least from because i was expecting more stuff from someone with drakes skills because Scotch doesnt seem to be a haki user if was he wouldnt have problems facing caribou.

We saw kid / Hawkins / Apoo to join forces and luffy/ law i was thinking the obvious that since the supernovas were 11 and if you counter zoro/Killer been the 1rst mates of luffy/kid it goes to like 9 Supernovas Captains because zoro and killer are supernovas who are in the crew of others supernovas. We have 9 supernovas Captains and 2 alliances so far do you think urouge/ x drake / Bonnie/ Capone are gonna make another alliance? or after an incident they will join forces with an existing one? So we will have 3 alliances or 2 alliances? Iam curious to see what will happen

Bro you need to type in complete sentences. Not run on sentences.

The story would be too predictable/dull if all the supernova from the worst generation team up only among themselves. It would be nice for Oda to introduce a random factor. Maybe leave bonney out for the revolutionaries, maybe have the worst generation team up with well-established pirates, or maybe let them have their own adventure.

 

[hoeru]

- Bonney has been beaten up by BB and delivered to Sakazuki.

But she's free again. She read the newspaper on the alliances in chapter 700.

 

[tony p]

I read it again. If you refer the woman page 3 > no evidence for Bonney.

Bonney delivered to Marine was a mean for BB to become a Yonko.

Also, not only her did got delivered but her whole crew had been.

If you can explain me the gap..

 

[TheLuffySmile]

^ I'm sry but wrong wrong and oh wait wrong again. Bonney was seen reading about the alliances and eating a pizza slice. And what's this about BB catching Bonney in order to become a Yonko? He caught her in order to trade her in for a battleship AKA a deal with the marines. But Sakazuki was on the ship so BB & Crew retreated. Jewelry Bonney was still chained to the pole when Sakazuki confronted her, that is all we know.

There, gap filled.

 

[Ace4]

I read it again. If you refer the woman page 3 > no evidence for Bonney.

Bonney delivered to Marine was a mean for BB to become a Yonko.

Also, not only her did got delivered but her whole crew had been.

If you can explain me the gap..

First of all you don't become yonko by delivering a Pirate to the goverment. Yonko is a status achieved by beeing just so much stronger and having much more influence than all other pirates around. The girl on Chapter 700 page 3 is obviously Bonney. We don't have to explain anything, that is Oda's job what her story was (the grudge against the marines, connection with whitebeard etc.)

 

[tony p]

1. BB delivered Bonney to get a battleship. But later On the Gorosei talked about BB delivered Bonney as a +1 factor to make him a Yonko.

http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=...i=gY9fUvCZKemo4ATT_oBo&ved=0CEMQ9QEwAw&dur=73

2. your conclusion"We don't have to explain anything".. "But Sakazuki was on the ship so BB & Crew retreated. Jewelry Bonney was still chained to the pole when Sakazuki confronted her, that is all we know. "

3. the gap is def not filled as no one knows why she is not jailed in Impel Down.

4. Sorry if it does not sound very obvious for me..

 

[TheLuffySmile]

^ it wasn't a +1 for BB to become one of the Yonko. They were saying that it was a testiment of his strength, being able to take down one of the supernovas with a bounty over 100 000 000 Beli as easy as he did, and right after the war at that.

 

[Ace4]

1. BB delivered Bonney to get a battleship. But later On the Gorosei talked about BB delivered Bonney as a +1 factor to make him a Yonko.

http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=...i=gY9fUvCZKemo4ATT_oBo&ved=0CEMQ9QEwAw&dur=73

2. your conclusion"We don't have to explain anything".. "But Sakazuki was on the ship so BB & Crew retreated. Jewelry Bonney was still chained to the pole when Sakazuki confronted her, that is all we know. "

3. the gap is def not filled as no one knows why she is not jailed in Impel Down.

4. Sorry if it does not sound very obvious for me..

Sorry if what I said came out wrong but:

1. BB wanted to exchange Bonney for a battleship. The Gororsei can only chose Shichibukai, Yonko is not a title you can earn physically. It could be that in the future there are 5-6 rulers that rule everything or maybe only 2.
2. Yes that's all we know and 2 years later she's free again.
3. This gap is not something we as readers can explain because we only know that Sakazuki got to her and that she's free 2 years later. If we try to explain it it's fan fiction. Example: Sakazuki is her father and only wanted to save her. She defeated Sakazuki and got away. She became the last Shichibukai for a pardon. All of them have a small possibility but they are without any facts.