Discussion The 11 Supernovae

[Capone]

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nahh i dont think any of them are traitors... but im gonno hate on Apoo as well lol

 

[Organizized]

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Agreed, I don't think any of them are traitors either.. And Raysen you really dislike Apoo don't you? Let's give him a chance, come on. Noone liked Capone before they saw his power so Apoo might as well become everyone's favorite when they've seen him fight. Oda might just have saved the best for last. ^^

If Killer is a traitor this arc goes from best ever to complete garbage. It seems I'm the only one who has Killer as a favorite (tied with Law).

 

[Onomatopoeia]

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Nah these guys are true and blue pirates. They're all aiming for One Piece and they're not going to sissy out along the way. After all how'd they get all the way to the Red Line if they were planning to turn traitor?

None of the supernovas are really coward and all of them know how to laugh in the face of danger just like the Strawhats.

 

[Raysen_ht]

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Agreed, I don't think any of them are traitors either.. And Raysen you really dislike Apoo don't you? Let's give him a chance, come on. Noone liked Capone before they saw his power so Apoo might as well become everyone's favorite when they've seen him fight. Oda might just have saved the best for last. ^^

If Killer is a traitor this arc goes from best ever to complete garbage. It seems I'm the only one who has Killer as a favorite (tied with Law).

I think in the back of Oda's mind, he hates Apoo as well... just look at the name he gave him... A*poo (lol) i might be wrong, but isnt that the stuff that food becomes after beeing digested?! hehehe

About killer, i like him too !! his design is awesome, and i wonder what he is hiding behind that mask !!? Although , i would have prefered if he never spoke... it would increase the dark, misterius aura of his caracter!!

Nah these guys are true and blue pirates. They're all aiming for One Piece and they're not going to sissy out along the way. After all how'd they get all the way to the Red Line if they were planning to turn traitor?

None of the supernovas are really coward and all of them know how to laugh in the face of danger just like the Strawhats.

Now that we have seen (almost) all of the SN in action, i have to agree that none of them strike me as the traitor type... but u never know

 

[ZeroChrome]

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I never thought of Apoo being a traitor, but I think he's more like a person who took advantage of the situation. with Kizaru and the Kumas are all busy, he'll probably just observe and then escape by himself. but the probability is slim since in fact, he's the one who said "you have to make the enemy mad before you run away from them" here. so I really hope that he'll take part in the brawl in the next few chapters

 

[Capone]

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when it comes to APoo i think hes going to strike when the moment is right.. instead of just charging in.. he will wait for a opening and take advantage.. i donno it might just be me but i think hes that kind of person

 

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[Raysen_ht]

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I posted this on the chapter discussion thread, cause we couldnt post things here until now... but i guess this discussion is better suited for this thread...
I made a few changes...

Here are my thoughts on the abilities of the SN:

I think Drake dont have any fruit (which is great!! a strong caracter without a DF), he is a master in all kind of fighting styles, and a brilliant tactician

Urouge also dont have a fruit... it would be awesome if his size increase were part of an ability he has to control his own muscles or something like that

Killer no fruit, cool design

Kidd magnetic power... a lot of room to improve!! (he could get to Magneto level)

Apoo the sh*it sh*t fruit... just look at his name... he is A-poop!! seriusly, no idea about him... maybe the sound thing people are suggesting (but i dont like that)

Law the God God fruit, He can create a space in which he is able to change all the laws of reallity as he chooses (so far we have only seen him messing with space and life laws, but i dont think he is restricted to that)

Bonney Age Age fruit... i think that she can only exchange the years... i mean, take it away from someone and, at the same time, put them on someone else (with her own age she doesnt have that limitation) and i think she cant do it to a lot (like 100) people at once...
She might be able to age objects as well as people.... although i dont see a battle porpuse for this ability, it would be damn usefull for someone like Robin!!
I think Bonney might be a really old woman, but her powers keep her body young!

Capone Castle castle fruit - His body became a castle that can store a lot of stuff, and make them small... I'm thinking he has some kind of beam (like the noro noro beam) that teleports whatever he wants to his castle (obviusly the thing get proportionally smaller). How else would the people/stuff get inside him?
Imo, the "barrier thing" only works one way... meaning that only stuff coming out of Capone and crossing that "aura" get bigger, but stuff coming at him from the outside wont get smaller

Hawkins's could be the paranormal paranormal fruit, which give him a variaty of powers... such as Tarot cards, vodoo dolls (confirmed ones) and maybe others, like astral projection, quiromancia, cristal ball, dream eating, ilusions...that sort of thing... I think that for each of the diferent powers he have, he must complete some kind of condition/rule/ritual to activate it!
He may also, be able to recognise signs that show him bits of the future!!

What do you think of my opinions on their powers? Lets start discussing the new guys we've met!!!

 

[Organizized]

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For Bonney, I've been thinking she can only change the age of the body, the soul of the person is still the same age, but do you think that unless she is killed or catches an illness, she can't die (of age, I mean)?

 

[ZeroChrome]

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hmm... now that you mention it, it really is seem impossible for her to die of age. but I think that's not really important since no one die in OP right? but imo her DF power is really powerful. against strong opponents, she can make them weak and unable to counter he attacks. wonder if that'll work against admirals

 

[descendant]

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For Bonney, I've been thinking she can only change the age of the body, the soul of the person is still the same age, but do you think that unless she is killed or catches an illness, she can't die (of age, I mean)

yeah i don't think she can die of old age
and who knows maybe she's actually still a little girl or a very old lady but uses her DF power to make herself into a young woman

but imo her DF power is really powerful. against strong opponents, she can make them weak and unable to counter he attacks. wonder if that'll work against admirals

i wonder if her power will work on luffy since luffy can stretch himself so if he's turned into a kid he can always stretch himself back to normal size

 

[Organizized]

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You know, I would LOVE to see Kizaru as a kid, ooooh the hilarity! Though, chances are that the really strong people were just as strong when they were children and can beat her up anyways.

ACTUALLY, if there were no limitations to the fruit, couldn't she increase the age of someone to the point he dies of age? Or decrease the age to the point before someone was born (wow). I mean thinking like that, there's gotta be some kind of limit.

 

[ZeroChrome]

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i wonder if her power will work on luffy since luffy can stretch himself so if he's turned into a kid he can always stretch himself back to normal size

probably not. he can't even stretch himself back into his original size during his chibi form after using Gear 3. but I kinda want to see he get turned into a kid and fight using his gears

ACTUALLY, if there were no limitations to the fruit, couldn't she increase the age of someone to the point he dies of age? Or decrease the age to the point before someone was born (wow). I mean thinking like that, there's gotta be some kind of limit.

IDK. probably. but as far as I can remember there're no DF powers (other than Logias) that can instantly kill the user's opponent. so I guess that's the limit of her fruit. she can only reduce the opponents' ages only to a certain point of age

 

[Organizized]

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probably not. he can't even stretch himself back into his original size during his chibi form after using Gear 3. but I kinda want to see he get turned into a kid and fight using his gears

We don't know that until he's tried. Well, actually, we know that when he stretches a part of his body, it will rebound since that's what rubber does.

That'd be one of the most hilarious fights ever! What, if he uses gear 3 as a kid, he turns into the size of an ant? ^^

 

[Akainu]

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I don't think that Bonnys ageability works without limits.
first thing that comes to mind is, that it maybe is only for a little amount of time that age changes - enough for her to escape/win a fight but not forever (talking 'bout overpowering)
the other thing I already mentioned is, that it looked like it's a 0-sum game. i.e. if she wants someone to get older she has to make someone else younger (that rule wouldn't apply for herself though).

in regards to fights of Supernovae, I think it would be cool to see a Moria vs. Capone. a fight for lazy bums, that don't like to act themselves.

and yes, Kizaru as kid would be a

 

[Organizized]

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Don't know about the 0-sum game thing.. But yeah, there's probably a set time limit to her powers (like Foxy's noro noro beam only froze people for 30 seconds), perhaps a minute.. But that'd be enough in battle, since the opponent is really inferior in that siutation (their bodies can't take as much damage, they're weaker etc.) and she should be able to take them out or run away. Even if it has limits, it's a really dangerous ability.

Kinda hard to tell any exact limit to the amount of aging/deaging (is that a word? xD) though.

 

[Raysen_ht]

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I agree with the 0-sum game, and i do believe there is a time limmit to her ability to change others, but i dont think any limitation is aplied to her own body... but thats just an opinion... (it would be cool if she somehow knew Shakki from the old days though)

What about Hawkins abilities? I think that the only explanation is the one i suggested in the last page... cuzz when he was reading the cards there was some kind of "gosm" holding the cards.. which sound like DF power, and than the vodoo dolls also sound like a DF power... the only thing that make sence imo, is the "paranormal paranormal fruit" i suggested

 

[paradoxe]

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Well I'll have a shot at guessing as well:

Eustass "Captain" Kidd - Magnetic paramecia DF

"Mystery Monk" Urouge - No DF power, just really buff

"Magician" Basil Hawkins - Well he seems to have a voodoo based DF power, but not sure what it'd be called, so I'm hoping he doesn't have a DF power, and his voodoo abilities are just techniques from North Blue

Hes probably a swordsman as well, seeing how he carries a sword with him

"Red Flag" X. Drake - No DF power, fights with mace and sword

"Dark Doctor" Trafalgar Law - Probably no DF power, I think his ability comes from his DF powered sword

"Roar of the Sea" Scratchmen Apoo - Probably a sound-based DF, although we don't know enough about him atm

"Massacre Man" Killer - No DF power

"Big Eater" Jewelry Bonney - Age Age paramecia fruit

Capone "Gang" Bege - Castle Castle paramecia fruit, able to turn things larger or smaller within a certain radius of his body, and can fit objects into his body

Kizaru - He seems to have a light based or speed based fruit, although I think either is pretty lame, especially the speed based fruit, considering how we already have speed based fighters like KUma who can move at the speed of light, and both Lucci and Luffy can move pretty fast without any DF to power them up. So I'm just gonna guess that he doesn't have any fruit, and his abilities are based upon Rokushiki. He might be the master of Rokushiki, and taught Lucci n Co. I mean, his 'beam' thing may just be an advanced version of Rankyaku. It'd be nice to see a strong fighter without a DF.

 

[Onomatopoeia]

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Heh Kizaru as a kid... MAYBE HE HAS AN AFRO

 

[noonethere]

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http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-508/page013.html
Just a question: am i the only one who thinks that the right hand of Drake(the one with which he hits Kuma) is a hoof(which would imply that he is a zoan DF user? Or is it that i am imagining it?