'The Captain' Thread v. Power-Leveling

[Jubei_Kibagami]

If there's already one I missed it.

How many are there in total? How extensive are there power sets?

Where do they fit in the P-L hierarchy?

Top50? Blue holes?

Basically, are they stronger or weaker than Mas (you know who you are)?

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[Fiodor Pavlovich K]

Basically, are they stronger or weaker than Mas (you know who you are)?

XD

He is somewhere between Mas and Cinera version of Mas

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

XD

He is somewhere between Mas and Cinera version of Mas

I'm waiting for him to go on record. Your vote is appreciated.

My guess is Hag/Mas range, but I think he is also Luslec so it's hard for me to let go of that theory.

 

[lazybum]

generic top 100, can't go wrong with that I think

 

[Aliblack]

You should add another option: More than Maschenny Zahard, less than Adori.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

You should add another option: More than Maschenny Zahard, less than Adori.

So just to be clear, is that not Hag Zahard tier? Or do you think she too (Mas) might be close to Hag?

 

[Fiodor Pavlovich K]

but I think he is also Luslec

I was thinking about that as well. At this stage and from the mystery created he has to be something more than a CC. If he is from FUG I can totally see him being Luslec since I don't see any slayer or blue hole being significantly stronger than a CC besides him.

...but I can see him being someone unrelated to FUG and Zahard as well. We will see.

 

[Aliblack]

So just to be clear, is that not Hag Zahard tier? Or do you think she too (Mas) might be close to Hag?

To be honest, I was joking. I feel Hag is stronger than Maschenny. This is a feeling.

To answer your question, I'm not sure that all of the captains are crazily strong. Because they should have different abilities that might not be very suitable for fighting like predicting the far future. However, because of their relations with Zahard, I think they all have top 100 potential. I won't be surprised if one of them will be at the same level as Luslec. They look like Blue Holes so you can expect anything from them.

 

[Shadowlord123]

After thinking so much about it, anywhere from low tier Regular (Wangnan, one of the future Captains) to Axis. Their levels probably fall somewhere around this range if I had to guess. Definitely below Cinera Boosted Too High for Us Maschenny though.

I'm smart, I know. No need to tell me. Very few intellectuals would have come out with such a good answer.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

After thinking so much about it, anywhere from low tier Regular (Wangnan, one of the future Captains) to Axis. Their levels probably fall somewhere around this range if I had to guess. Definitely below Cinera Boosted Too High for Us Maschenny though.

I'm smart, I know. No need to tell me. Very few intellectuals would have come out with such a good answer.

That range is too narrow, could you maybe expand it a bit to be more inclusive?

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To be honest, I was joking. I feel Hag is stronger than Maschenny. This is a feeling.

I do too, but, please, use your quiet voice to say such things.

To answer your question, I'm not sure that all of the captains are crazily strong. Because they should have different abilities that might not be very suitable for fighting like predicting the far future. However, because of their relations with Zahard, I think they all have top 100 potential. I won't be surprised if one of them will be at the same level as Luslec. They look like Blue Holes so you can expect anything from them.

I too subscribe to the clones each having a primary Zahard trait: Karaka with the tentacles (?), Wangnan with the near inability to die (probably indestructible), one of the other clones with fate sensing, etc.

But, I do suspect some overlap. For instance, Karaka is pretty hardy as well. Sure, he has the armor but maybe they all are near-indestructible. The Captain that spoke with Dowon may have the prophetic senses, but is this shared with the other OG clones? Not sure.

The super-well-aged ones are obviously all very strong as well, being super-old, undoubtedly HR level characters from back when the original 13 were still climbing (apparently).

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I was thinking about that as well. At this stage and from the mystery created he has to be something more than a CC. If he is from FUG I can totally see him being Luslec since I don't see any slayer or blue hole being significantly stronger than a CC besides him.

...but I can see him being someone unrelated to FUG and Zahard as well. We will see.

There are TOO many similarities and coincidences, IMO.

 

[Shadowlord123]

That range is too narrow, could you maybe expand it a bit to be more inclusive?

Yeah, sorry to be so narrow-minded. They're somewhere around a Quark and the God above All of the TUS Universe (aka Cinera Boosted Too High for Us Maschenny, the #0 Axis, the origin of everything including all the other Axis).

 

[hblock]

He is somewhere between Mas and Cinera version of Mas

That's extremely large of a gap (Cin' think that Mas' can fight a FH), can you give us a smaller, more realistic range ?

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Yeah, sorry to be so narrow-minded. They're somewhere around a Quark and the God above All of the TUS Universe (aka Cinera Boosted Too High for Us Maschenny, the #0 Axis, the origin of everything including all the other Axis).

OK thanks, I'm starting to understand. Good on you for committing so specifically.

@Cinera - you are a part of this convo. You are very vocal about the Captain being weaker than Mas in the chaper discussion, what say you?

 

[sazon]

He is somewhere between Mas and Cinera version of Mas

I wanted to tattoo this comment. lol

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It all depends on whether the captains follow the same scheme as the princesses: people capable enough to receive Zahard's blood.

We can have one that is as strong as Adori or one that is as disgusting and deplorable as Wangnan, but I agree with the idea that in their case, the key factor is going to be how good a rook chess player they are.

 

[King Dryst]

He is somewhere between Mas and Cinera version of Mas

So like, somewhere between strong and makes Phantaminum look like a bitch?

 

[Demonspeed]

Adori level leading? I think CC level because if not he won't be impressive. Lot of these titles overlap IMO.

 

[DanielGacitua]

If all the captains follow the pattern of the princes of Zahard that we know so far, where each one of them seem to have one ability of Zahard, it is very likely that their power level varies a lot between all their members.

For example, the one who spoke with Dowon and Cha, we don't have much information about him except that he probably has the ability to see the future/fate like Zahard (maybe even better than him), he may be similar to Wangnam and only have that ability and no other power on his own

I hope that the one in the Nest (Scar) is strong enough to be relevant in a possible FUG's escape from it, killing a hatchling by itself is not so impressive

 

[Ignorant]

He’s a high ranker
No in the top 300

ok he killed Orari but when orari hit him with the kick
He make this reaction “ urgh “ always used when somebody feel pain. So if that kick from an advance ranker hurt him he’s not there with the greatest i do thing they have different skill from zahard

one can copy his vision (cha, dowon preacher)
Wangnan seems to be immortal
Karaka like to kill babys. (Baam)
That one in the nest is the strong one? Idk don’t think so.

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Guys read the context all the time, character expression and the how panel details..

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the guy killed a ranker and people is putting him with luslec molic and adori world is crazy.

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I'm waiting for him to go on record. Your vote is appreciated.

My guess is Hag/Mas range, but I think he is also Luslec so it's hard for me to let go of that theory.

He never going to speak about them cause there’s a reason he neve refer to them.. THEY WERE WHO REALLY ORCHESTRATED THE NEST BATTLE MORE THAN 8,000 years ago

Yas and WW were born by the end of the war 8,000 years ago By that time Cha and dowon were high rankers fighting the families when the captain met them. @Fiodor Pavlovich K

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

He’s a high ranker
No in the top 300

ok he killed Orari but when orari hit him with the kick
He make this reaction “ urgh “ always used when somebody feel pain. So if that kick from an advance ranker hurt him he’s not there with the greatest i do thing they have different skill from zahard

one can copy his vision (cha, dowon preacher)
Wangnan seems to be immortal
Karaka like to kill babys. (Baam)
That one in the nest is the strong one? Idk don’t think so.

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Guys read the context all the time, character expression and the how panel details..

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the guy killed a ranker and people is putting him with luslec molic and adori world is crazy.

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He never going to speak about them cause there’s a reason he neve refer to them.. THEY WERE WHO REALLY ORCHESTRATED THE NEST BATTLE MORE THAN 8,000 years ago

Yas and WW were born by the end of the war 8,000 years ago By that time Cha and dowon were high rankers fighting the families when the captain met them. @Fiodor Pavlovich K

Gotta disagree here.

Once the mask came off (metaphorically - once he was exposed as an imposter), he stopped Tobi-ing (see Naruto) around. He literally one-hit KO'd the AR/HR, whatever Orari is, with whatever he had on hand. No advanced weapon, nothing special, no accessing his weapons cache, no special moves, not so much as a charge up or breaking a sweat - with what was effectively a mere stick in his hands (the needles that ALL the LPB shock troops had, nothing special in the least).

Then, we get the menacing, red-glowing eyes, which ALWAYS signifies something deeply powerful or evil (almost like the god of demons, Luslec...), and a hidden well of power. Every time.

Adori level leading? I think CC level because if not he won't be impressive. Lot of these titles overlap IMO.

The overlap is intentional. In part, mostly really, because there is not a general consensus or agreement where one power-level stops and another begins.

 

[Ignorant]

Gotta disagree here.

Once the mask came off (metaphorically - once he was exposed as an imposter), he stopped Tobi-ing (see Naruto) around. He literally one-hit KO'd the AR/HR, whatever Orari is, with whatever he had on hand. No advanced weapon, nothing special, no accessing his weapons cache, no special moves, not so much as a charge up or breaking a sweat - with what was effectively a mere stick in his hands (the needles that ALL the LPB shock troops had, nothing special in the least).

Then, we get the menacing, red-glowing eyes, which ALWAYS signifies something deeply powerful or evil (almost like the god of demons, Luslec...), and a hidden well of power. Every time.



The overlap is intentional. In part, mostly really, because there is not a general consensus or agreement where one power-level stops and another begins.

it was a good kick from Orari if you read the context in the panel you gon’ see it says “Throb, Throb” boss arm was hurt a bit for that kick so, based on that little context that is more than what people who suggest he’s luslec level base their assumption... we know this happen when we got hit by a good attack, the scar is red not the eyes, but the scar just mean he was defeated one time or almost defeated, change my mind…

About luslec demonic self I BET the guy who is called demon is more handsome than the family heads it always happens lol i can see luslec using a Dark green Shadow shinsu.. about the Hook that can pierce Bloodmadder and gustang defense
Idk if SIU is copying Scorpion from MK or he’s talking about his punchs that are called Hooks in pro-boxing.
I would really like if he’s second scorpion..

Anyway i put the Scar-face boss about top 400-500
I really think they could be parts of a Main body like the Grey guy from 5 army and Aria..

i also think they were divided and each of them got something of the main body like:

Ja wangnan immortality
Karaka Black Shinsu
Scar boss strength
“Young Zahard” captain premonition Eyes.

This all assumption and just my point of view
Im not affirming or telling you are wrong
Im just think we tend to over-estimate the new warriors to much And the hater sly ended being right later

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PD: fans who really voted by Zahard level option and Luslec got my heart hurting