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just curious, when you translate manga, do u read it out loud instead of in ur head? As u read, do yo read the whole speech bubble first, then when u finish the bubble, the english translation pops into ur head? AHH it hard to explain what i mean. Im just curious how ppl translate. im learning japanese, and right now, i can read alot(an "upper" beginner :P)...but when i read a japanese sentence, i read the whole thing and if i know the vocabulary words used in the sentence, by the time i finish reading, i kinda bring the words togethers and form my english translation.....im sorry, i just cant think of the right words to say T_T btw..do u have MSN?
 

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I just came here to say that rly RLY love u'r work.
I dont know how many times u recieve that kind of msg, but I think sometimes must be nice to read something like that^^ (same way it's always nice to read your translations)
You're right... it is nice to hear that kind of thing! :smile-big Thanks!

just curious, when you translate manga, do u read it out loud instead of in ur head? As u read, do yo read the whole speech bubble first, then when u finish the bubble, the english translation pops into ur head? AHH it hard to explain what i mean. Im just curious how ppl translate. im learning japanese, and right now, i can read alot(an "upper" beginner :P)...but when i read a japanese sentence, i read the whole thing and if i know the vocabulary words used in the sentence, by the time i finish reading, i kinda bring the words togethers and form my english translation.....im sorry, i just cant think of the right words to say T_T btw..do u have MSN?
How do I translate? Hmmm... difficult, I've never really thought about the process. I don't usually read the text out loud. It's certainly true that you usually need to get to the end of a sentence before you can properly phrase an English translation... (But then again, I guess that's to be expected, considering Japanese sentences usually work in essentially the opposite direction to English ones; you don't know how to start until you've finished, as it were ~_~)

One thing I certainly do is rely too much on online dictionaries :p Eheh. I find myself looking up a heck of a lot of words, even if I do know them. I could probably translate 90% of stuff without using a dictionary without too much trouble, but I find myself using them anyway. ~~

And yes, I do have, and regularly use, MSN. [email protected] - feel free to contact me if you like. (For the record, though, I favour AIM over MSN; my username there is cnet256.)
 

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Crossover

What chapters in xxxHolic crossover with the chapters of Acid Tokyo in Tsubasa?
 

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Hey, Carlos, do you intend do translate Rival's series? oo
Just asking^^
Maybe if one catches my eye. I don't want to overwork myself ^^;;
 

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Re: Crossover

What chapters in xxxHolic crossover with the chapters of Acid Tokyo in Tsubasa?
If you want to ask me questions, you should post them in The cnet128 Thread, or ask them within a relevant translation thread of mine, rather than creating a thread within my translation archive ¬_¬

That said, the parts of Holic that cross over with the Tokyo arc are the end of Volume 9, and then Volume 10 in general. The original Syaoran's arrival at the shop is in chapter 6 of Volume 9, or chapter 107 by the Jump numbering. Chapters 1-2 of Volume 10 (109-113) deal with Watanuki collecting the water that is sent to refill the Tokyo reservoir. And then chapter 6 of Volume 10 (120) deals with what happened to the egg that Sakura collected in Tokyo.

[kirimi]Posts moved and merged to your thread, cnet. Thanks![/kirimi]
 
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I just read this thread from start to finish. You're an interesting guy.
I'm a finance major in his third year who wishes he went the path you did (linguistics + japanese), but my interest in those two categories came too late :P Anyway, I've been studying japanese by myself through online sources (japanesepod101.com, and other websites), much like you did a few years back. My question for you: how did taking actual classes affect your level of interest in the language (was it lowered, retained, raised)?
 

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Hey cnet, big fan of your translations here, I read them every week. Just wanted to say thank you for doing such a great job and providing us folks with our manga enjoyment every week!
Also I'm kinda curious, in the manga that you translate, do you have favorite characters? If so, which are they?
 

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Hey Cnet. I was just redirected here via Mangashare as apparently they used your translation for their Bleach scan and i was left baffled in regards to what it said on the back of a few characters' jackets. So my initial question is; Where abouts in the UK are you from?

My second question is; why do you/translators tend to opt not to do sfx/inline text (as found on clothes)?

My third question is; have you ever read Air Gear? And if so what do you think of it?
 

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My question for you: how did taking actual classes affect your level of interest in the language (was it lowered, retained, raised)?
Well, I wouldn't say it had a huge impact on my interest in the language, to be honest. Just gave me more opportunity to express that interest. I suppose naturally, as you become more "used" to a language, it loses some of the novelty value, but I'd say I'm still as enamoured of the language as I ever was. (Even if I can't say the same about the workload that I consistently fail to maintain :p)

Hey Cnet. I was just redirected here via Mangashare as apparently they used your translation for their Bleach scan and i was left baffled in regards to what it said on the back of a few characters' jackets. So my initial question is; Where abouts in the UK are you from?

My second question is; why do you/translators tend to opt not to do sfx/inline text (as found on clothes)?

My third question is; have you ever read Air Gear? And if so what do you think of it?
First question is easy enough; I'm originally from Epsom, Surrey, but I'm currently at university at the University of Sheffield.

Second question... Well, that sure isn't my translation in that scan you've linked to, but the question stands, I guess :p If I'm perfectly honest, the reason I didn't translate the stuff on the backs of those uniforms is because I wasn't sure what it was exactly :p (Well, that and it didn't seem too important...) Wasn't sure on the first two kanji. Of course, now that I check up on it, I feel silly; they're just Kensei's surname, Muguruma. So the text on the back of their uniforms just reads "Muguruma Ninth Division".

In general, I do translate text that appears in-panel, unless it seems so trivial that I don't see the point in bothering ~_~ Not the case for SFX, though, which I omit in all but a couple of series - frankly, Japanese is an extremely onomatopoeia-rich language, in which you can write a legitimate "sound-effect" for just about anything (and they generally do). Considering that a) English is not such a language, so generally you have to just come up with either weird-sounding approximations or just descriptions of what's happening, b) SFX is incredibly common and it's a pain in the ass to translate it all, c) SFX is generally almost entirely extraneous, since you can see what's going on; it's just there for that bit of extra effect, which is basically lost trying to translate it anyway; and d) even if a Manga Editor was willing to edit in all the SFX, it's questionable whether that would even be a good idea since they're essentially part of the artwork... I just figure it's not worth it in most cases.

And third question, no, I've never checked out Air Gear. Maybe I will one day; maybe I won't.

I'm kinda curious, in the manga that you translate, do you have favorite characters? If so, which are they?
Ohhhhhhh dear. Between the sheer number of series I translate, my inability ever to choose a single favourite, and my general propensity for long, in-depth responses... I daresay this is going to be a big one XD I'll try not to go overboard :p

Right, so, em, first series first. Bleach. As good a place to start as any, it's usually the first series I translate on a RAW day. And I guess it's appropriate enough, since it lets me bring up the most obvious character first - Isshin. He's been my avatar for god-knows-how-long, so you should've been expecting this one. He's damn well epic, and I certainly hope he shows up some more in the series soon. (Why hasn't he shown up in the flashback yet?! He's the perfect candidate! Is Kubo that intent on keeping him shrouded in mystery? >_<)

Also, he, er, shares my love for another Bleach character - YUZU! (Have I made my love for all things loli painfully-clear enough in this thread yet? If not, I daresay it will be by the end of this post :p) Yuzu is made of sex and love. Mmmm. Yachiru also gets loli points. Not nearly as attractive as Yuzu, but still. I so want to see her actually in combat. Pity Ken-chan always hogs that kind of thing.

Of course, those aren't the only Bleach characters worth mentioning. Shinji is epic-Kansai-ben-character-ftw. Stark had better damn well be Primera Espada because he's just too awesome not to be. Plus he has h4wt Fracción Lilinette. (Besides which, if it's not him, then that would improve the chances of it being Barragan, to which I say HELL NAW.)

There are plenty more Bleach characters I could mention, but let's leave it at that and move on to Naruto. For a start, let's establish that I'm not one of the many Sasuke-haters :noworry Sasuke is cool. Yes, he is stoic and emo like all hell, but hey, he pulls it off. If that's because Kishimoto wants to have teh buttsecks with him, then so be it :p While we're talking Uchihas, can't help but love Tobi, too. Both sides of him. (Though that just reminds me I really ought to get around to reading/translating this week's Naruto chapter... >_<) And you can't beat Shikamaru. Shikamaru is the man. No ifs, no buts. Though he does need to drop that smoking habit. Memento of Asuma or otherwise, smoking is for the lose. I kind of feel like going on to bring up Lee, and Kakashi, and Kankuro, but... I don't want to turn this into a list of half the characters in the series >_< I will mention that Kabuto needs more screentime, though. Particularly now that he's turned batshit-crazy-Orochimorph-thing.

On the female side of Naruto, it's clearly all about Hinata. (Screw the Sakura/Naruto shippers; if Hinata wants Naruto, she can damn well have him.) Naturally, pre-timeskip Hinata is preferable, but... a post-skip Hinata is fine too ^^

Right, moving swiftly onwards to the last of the so-called Big Three. One Piece. I don't think any One Piece viewer/reader could fail to agree that Luffy is, always has been, and always will be the man. One Piece is one of the few examples of a series where the main character is, in fact, one of the best characters. I say "one of" because the cast in general is just made of epic win. Can't beat One Piece when it comes to the central crew. That said, if I had to pick favourites besides Luffy, I'd probably have to go for Zoro and Brooke (is there just something about the swordsmen, I wonder?)

Of course, there are a ton of awesome characters outside of the actual crew, as well - just look at Ace, Shanks, the Smoker/Tashigi combo, Blackbeard, Aokiji... all characters who need more screentime, mind. And of course there's the clearly-awesome Dragon lurking in the shadows of the plot somewhere. Loving Caimie in the current arc, too, and hoping against all the odds that she does actually join the crew. (Can't see her leaving her beloved Hacchin, though :p)

Not really any females I find particularly attractive in One Piece, though. Guess they're just too old for me? :p (Although there was this one incredibly h4wt doujin with a Loli Loli no Mi... but I digress :tem)

So that's the Big Three done with... time to move on to the not-quite-so-big series that nevertheless ought by rights to make it a Big Four... yep, it's D.Gray-man. I could go off on a rant about why D.Gray-man is so awesome, but let's just stick to the characters.

This is another series in which I really do like the main character. There's just something about Allen. His sheer stubborn ability to get through even the most horrific situations with a genuine smile - combined with the author's willingness to put him through all of it. Yeah, the Togaochi arc really defined his character for me. It was just disaster after disaster after disaster, and Allen just kept struggling through it despite the ridiculous physical strain and ignoring the moral doubts, purely because he wanted to save that one guy - and then to cap it all off, the author not only refused to give him a happy end, he gave him approximately the most tragic end imaginable. And even when everything was lost, Allen was still lying there, everything ruined, about to die, putting a brave face on it and trying to make the best of the situation.

And even when he did get the obligatory shonen-manga "power-up", the turning point was his decision that "I'm no longer human - I am a weapon." Not exactly cheerful, even if the outcome was immensely satisfying. D.Gray is making a nice habit out of that, actually - power coming from not-so-cheerful-or-expected places. Lenalee got her upgrade thanks, of all things, to LeVerrier's stubborn, ultra-practical, dehumanising insistence, against everybody's wishes and despite the heavy dangers involved, to attempt to force an upgrade upon her. I mean, normally you'd expect a character like that to see some sort of comeuppance, but no, his was actually the right move, and probably the thing that saved the entire Order.

I think I kind of have digressed into the whole why-I-love-D.Gray topic here. But hey, at least I'm still focusing on awesome characters. Lenalee is a very strong lead (and it doesn't hurt that she's very attractive as well :p), and LeVerrier is just so... interesting. Meanwhile on the Noah side of things we have Tyki and Road, who are easily among my favourite characters of the series as well. I don't think that really needs any explaining. They're just made of win. (And Road is h4wt, too.)

Okay, I guess the next logical series to cover here is Hunter. Oh, boy XD Hunter is just the kind of series that makes you want to say "oh, boy..." no matter what the context, really, isn't it? :p Not least after I finish translating a chapter of it ~_~ But yes. Great Hunter characters. Been a while since I thought back in that series. Well, can't beat Bisuke-tan ^^ Damn, she's cute. (Though let us not speak of her, ah, "true form". Ever.) And everybody gotta love cool characters like Hisoka and Kuroro/Chrollo/whatever-you-wanna-call-him. But in the current arc, my favourite character has to be Pitou. I mean... y'know. Pitou. What can you say about Pitou? He's just... intense. And likeable, despite being a murderous ant thing :p Plus of course the whole, er, intense chemistry between him and Gon is extremely interesting to watch. (Not to mention that his ability is very unique, to say the least.)

Next series! Might as well finish up the Jump titles before moving onto others, so... Sket Dance! Switch is epic win. How can anybody not love Switch? He is the embodiment of brilliance. Also rather like Momoka, for whatever reason. She's just... likeable, I suppose. And the Student Council in general are just great. Oh, and Roman! She's cute and outrageously odd! What's not to like?!

Last of the Jump titles - Hatsukoi. Don't really have any "favourites" among the guys, so to speak... they're all pretty likeable, but none stand out. Well, Sogabe stands out in terms of pure being-odd, I suppose, but that's not necessarily a good thing ;p Kusuda stands out because Kawashita-sensei seems intent on turning him into the main freaking character, but... yeah. I think if I had to choose a favourite of the guys, it'd be someone like Terai or Yoshihiko. Or even Uemura (who is really overdue a reappearance, he hasn't been seen since Chapter 3 >_<). Amongst the girls... well! Clearly my heart belongs to only two girls - Koyoi and Yuu! :luv Yoshihiko is a damned ingrate, and I want to steal his sister, because I would appreciate her a damn sight better than he does :p And as for Yuu... EPIC YUU. EPIC EPIC EPIC YUU. And like I said, why the HELL has the Yuu/Uemura storyline not been seen since Chapter 3?! T_T

Right! Now for Tsubasa! Now, all the characters in Tsubasa are extremely engaging, of course, but that said... FAI. Always, eternally and for ever FAI. Does the sheer win that Fai possesses even need explaining? Would it even bear explaining? It just is. It is there. It is transcendent. It is godliness.

And obviously you can't cover Tsubasa without covering Holic immediately after. And you can't really beat Kohane. Beautiful loli? Check. Engaging storyline? Check. Generally incredibly likeable character? Check. If-she-gets-relegated-to-the-background-after-this-storyline-there-will-be-hell-to-pay? Check. Of course, the main trio are just generally great as well. And Tanpopo! :tem

Moving swiftly onwards... Fairy Tail. I'm loving the new characters introduced in the Tower of Paradise arc, particularly Shou (he just looks so damn cool, even if he is a little... unstable...) and Miriana (KITTY! KITTY KITTY KITTY! :p) Oh, and I'm generally liking Lluvia :XD Of the less-recent characters... well, Lucy is always likeable :p And Mirajane.

Finally getting towards the end here! We've reached my more recent series. Yep, it's Kekkaishi time. Well, can't fault Masamori, I guess. He's Masamori, after all. And Yoshimori and Tokine themselves are nice characters. But the best character of Kekkaishi ever? Little Misao from the box-user arc, of course! ^___^ So cute... so plucky... and she had an awesome ability, as well! Forget Yoshimori, make her the main character pls kthxby :smile-big Hm, I suppose I should give crazy old Heisuke a mention as well - he's a very interesting sort of character to say the least. And while we're on characters from the Kokubourou arc, that flower-demon girl, Aihi, was certainly an interesting character too. I do hope she didn't die.

And for the final series, my own most recent - Negima. Oh dear, what a series to finish with. Its cast is enormous :p But I can certainly name favourites. Nodoka and Yue, for starters. I :love them both, I really do. I am a heavy supporter of Nodoka x Negi, but if Nodoka doesn't get him, then Yue totally should. (And I can have whichever one of them doesn't :smile-big) Evangeline is clearly up there, both for being an interesting and entertaining character, and for being one of the hottest lolis in the world, ever.

Oh, and Konoka is also made of epic win. And by win, I mean cute. And by cute, I mean win.

...That will be all :p
 

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I do not know if you are currently willing to translate other series other then the one(s) you are working on now, but if you are I have a request for you. I represent a new group called Fighting Dreamers Edited Mangas we were on a verge of our first release and were fine tuning the translation when we lost contact with our translator. We have two projects currently, the one in need of a translator is Shadow Skill Invincibility Fire Ball. (We plan to do at least the 1st volume.) I do not want to purchase anymore raws for more volumes unless I Either get a good deal on a hard to find tank, or it seems we will be ready to continue with Editing more manga. Please let me know if you are interested in this project.

Here is a quote about Shadow Skill Invincibility Fire Ball from wikipedia
Shadow Skill (シャドウスキル-影技-), is a manga series with anime adaptations, created by Studio Deen and aired on Japanese Television in 1998, and has been released in the United States by ADV Films in 2005. The series is based on the manga by Megumu Okada. A shonen series, it features a lot of combat, especially martial arts.

The main protagonists of Shadow Skill are Elle Ragu, the 59th Sevalle in the kingdom of Kuruda, and Gau Ban, an orphaned boy that Elle takes up as her adopted brother. He is currently a Valle and is improving his training. Gau is so impressed by Elle's fighting skill, and the stories of Kuruda's greatest fighter Scarface, that he is studying Elle's fighting skills so that one day he would become the greatest Sevalle in Kuruda. But before that, they must face demon beasts, spies, and Elle's debts from drinking, and collateral damage from fighting.

Also in Elle and Gau's life is Faury Maya (Folli Maya in the TV series), a Sui Rame talisman sorceress, and Kyou Ryu, a Septia beastcatcher and niece of Iba Stora, the king of Kuruda.
It is a fighting/action manga.
 

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I'll pass on that. As I'm sure I've said plenty of times, I'm not really looking to take on new projects, particularly archive-projects, unless something happens to particularly catch my interest. I have enough to be dealing with already :p And frankly, I doubt that's a series I'd really be interested in translating anyway. Sorry ^^;
 

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Thanks anyways. I appreciate the prompt response.
 

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Carlos, would you be so kind to translate the latest chapter of Double Arts? Shrimpy is now overworked so he can't do it :(
 

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I don't translate random chapters of series I don't read >_<
 

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Wow, definitely didn't expect your answer to be that long, but that was a pretty interesting post!
I'll follow it up with an easy one: Pirates or ninjas?
 

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Under ordinary circumstances, ninjas. But the sheer awesomeness of One Piece is in danger of singlehandedly tipping the balance towards pirates :p
 

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I tried Editing Kekkashi 171 today using your fantastic translation of v18. Its taking alot longer than i thought it would.(first time ever Editing) I got to page 126 on your translation and found there was a small section missing, please let me know if i am wrong. I was wondering if you could translate 1 part of that page for me.

Sen: (Huh?! I'm not part of the combat division any more, you know! / I can say what I like!)
Bit i think is missing.
Yoshimori: Why, you... // ?! // That's Gramps'...

Cheers Carlos and thanks for all the translations u do :)
 
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