Year Round The Football/Soccer Thread v4

[Rikudobito]

Not a fan, but kinda amazed at seeing Liverpool in such a situation tbh
I'm more like a Barça fan instead

Brendan strikes me as the type of dude who may be good tactical wise, but has poor man management, and a successful manager is someone who's tactically good and can manage his men well

The more Brendan stays in Liverpool, the shittier the club will be, they're giving a lunatic to right to waste money for nothing. He should've been sacked this summer considering the players they bought and wasted money on, and the same again will happen this summer. And Liverpool isn't United when it comes to their economic power

Top 3 will be between Chelsea/Arsenal/City... Although Pellegrini and City owners proved themselves to be fools so far with their recruitement policy

I agree.

Tbh, he should've been sacked the next day after we lost 6-1 against Stoke. That was intolerable. We didn't lose like that for years. Moreover, Dalglish was sacked even though he won the carling cup, led the team to the final of the FA cup and finished 7th while Rodgers finished 6th and won nothing at all and even got us out of the UCL miserably.

It also has to be said that Dalglish had a far (x10) better reputation than him at the club since he was a legend for this club. Yet despite all of this, he was sacked and Rodgers wasn't ? I couldn't understand that tbh.

The transfer committee was also to be blamed on several occasions and Rodgers also is part of this committee. Take the signing of Mamadou Sakho for instance. I'm also a fan of Ligue 1 and my favourite team there is Marseille but I also frequently watch PSG games. Thiago silva expressed how he preferred to play with Alex rather than Sakho. Later on, Marquinhos was bought. After that, Sakho himself decided to go and for a price which was said to be quite exaggerated. (19m I think )Many thought that his true value was between 6-8m and that he was leagues below Thiago Silva. Also, I had the occassion to watch him play some games for PSG before he left and my impression of him was that he was an average player.

On the other hand, I find him a little better here at Liverpool than at PSG but he's still the average type of player who will not be able to help the team to reach the top. The day I heard Liverpool bought him, I was shocked.

I still remember the days where we had world-class defenders like Hyppia and Agger, it's no longer the case now. Perhaps this is why I find him average, because when I had the chance to see players like Agger and Hyppia in action, I automatically find this kind of player to be average.

Talking about Brendan, you remember when he said that since Tottenham spent more than 100m, they should be challenging for the title ? Last season, his own words came back to haunt him. It's all just talk coming from him. Bringing on Iago Aspas during the last 10 minutes against Chelsea is a reason of why people think of him as being completely clueless.

@bold, For the 2013-2014 season, It would seem that a world-class Suarez and an in-form Sturridge were hiding his incompetence and that's why he seemed to be tactically good because for the 2014-2015 season (last season), he's been tactically outsmarted by many other managers.

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Genius to sell Sterling at that price...Insanity to buy Benteke at that price. Maybe he'll come good, maybe not...at least we didn't buy Higuain

Yup. Hopefully, Benteke will be able to score 15-20 goals this season. He's overall a better player than Higuain IMO. He's a good player and with Sturridge's return, we'll be able to improve our attack. Origi looks promising and Ibe little by little, is proving that he has the potential to be special.

 

[FrostyMouse]

It was fine not having the best campaign because there's no way to replace Suarez.

However, you're 100% right. Rodgers needed to be sacked after that loss to Stoke.

 

[Philia]

It was fine not having the best campaign because there's no way to replace Suarez.

However, you're 100% right. Rodgers needed to be sacked after that loss to Stoke.

Nah. Wenger doesn't get sacked after getting thrashed by tennis scores time and time again in the same season. Why would you sack BR ?

And that idiot doing nothing in the transfer market when it is crystal clear that the team needs a DM and a Striker. Benzama link is his excuse. In the end Benzama will stay at Real and Wenger will continue with Giroud and say I almost signed .....................

 

[Zehahaha]

Nah. Wenger doesn't get sacked after getting thrashed in tennis scores time and time again in the same season. Why would you sack BR ?

And that idiot doing nothing in the transfer market when it is crystal clear that the team needs a DM and a Striker. Benzama link is his excuse. In the end Benzama will stay at Real and Wenger will continue with Giroud and say I almost signed .....................

Wenger, unlike Brendan was restricted by the stadium for damned years, it's only recently that Arsenal actually bought and kept players
There's no doubt Wenger was foolish too during some instances, this season and the one before it are proof of that, however he always had this ability to still be in the top 4 somehow, and him getting the FA cup helped

What Wenger does tho, is that if he's really convinced by a player, he's gonna spend money : Alexis/Ozil are prime example of that recently, if he's not or the player is demanding some absurd wages (Schneiderlin), he won't buy him

Also currently, top strikers aren't available, he had the opportunity to get Jackson Martinez tho and I don't get why he didn't do it tbh

1. Benzema isn't good for Arsenal because of Giroud, they don't get well at all and it's very known in the NT
2. Cavani is too random and fails to shine when it matters, an over glorified Giroud
3. Dybala is too young and was fairly expensive
4. Morata was too young and it was risky to spend a lot on him, which Juve did and somehow it was a good deal in a sense
5. Llorente sucks literally
6. Kane so far strikes as your typical overhyped british player, so no
7. Lewandowski can't leave Bayern yet
8. Bacca is a decent striker, but not the one who should the main striker of a team playing the PL/CL

There's Lacazette, but with Aulas around and Euro 2016, it's gonna be tough and expensive

Funny enough the perfect striker for Arsenal was Suarez, too bad Wenger didn't put enough money... Luckily Barça got him

Anyway, Wenger is fairly rational in his spending, however my only beef with him is somehow his reluctance to adapt his tactics (this season he showed that he could adapt to the teams he was playing against, something he didn't do before that much) and how sentimental he is, any other club would've kicked Diaby long ago because of his injuries, yet Wenger always kept him and the guy was always unfortunate

What Arsenal really needs is a defense, Mertsacker needs to go, Koscielny can be inconsistent too. Coquelin showed great potential, but for a team that likes possession, he isn't the perfect fit, someone like Busquets would be the missing piece for your midfield, Coquelin reminds me of Mascherano considering how agressive they both are as DM, but their ability to read the game, position themselves isn't all that good

Busquets may seem most of the time standing on the field, people even think he doesn't run, yet he's always one of the players who cover most distance, he simply looks for spaces all the time, my only problem with him is how weak he is in the aerial game

As for striker, that may not be oh so necessary, lots of teams have their best goalscorers not being your typical striker... Alexis/Walcott would work well as goalscorers, in the condition that Giroud does his work and creates spaces, and sometimes acts like a pivot. He also needs to work on his finishing too (one of the reasons Arsenal lost against Monaco was Giroud)

Talking about Brendan, you remember when he said that since Tottenham spent more than 100m, they should be challenging for the title ? Last season, his own words came back to haunt him. It's all just talk coming from him. Bringing on Iago Aspas during the last 10 minutes against Chelsea is a reason of why people think of him as being completely clueless.

Lmao I remember that one, made laugh hard
I still remember how he was shittalking about Van Gaal too... Ah yes forgot, United will be a tough team to beat this year but it won't last long... I still remember how Rivaldo left from Barça after winning a freaking Ballon d'Or because he wanted to position him as a winger... Muh Philosophy and shit like that

 

[Philia]

Wenger, unlike Brendan was restricted by the stadium for damned years, it's only recently that Arsenal actually bought and kept players
There's no doubt Wenger was foolish too during some instances, this season and the one before it are proof of that, however he always had this ability to still be in the top 4 somehow, and him getting the FA cup helped

What Wenger does tho, is that if he's really convinced by a player, he's gonna spend money : Alexis/Ozil are prime example of that recently, if he's not or the player is demanding some absurd wages (Schneiderlin), he won't buy him

Also currently, top strikers aren't available, he had the opportunity to get Jackson Martinez tho and I don't get why he didn't do it tbh

1. Benzema isn't good for Arsenal because of Giroud, they don't get well at all and it's very known in the NT
2. Cavani is too random and fails to shine when it matters, an over glorified Giroud
3. Dybala is too young and was fairly expensive
4. Morata was too young and it was risky to spend a lot on him, which Juve did and somehow it was a good deal in a sense
5. Llorente sucks literally
6. Kane so far strikes as your typical overhyped british player, so no
7. Lewandowski can't leave Bayern yet
8. Bacca is a decent striker, but not the one who should the main striker of a team playing the PL/CL

There's Lacazette, but with Aulas around and Euro 2016, it's gonna be tough and expensive

Funny enough the perfect striker for Arsenal was Suarez, too bad Wenger didn't put enough money... Luckily Barça got him

Anyway, Wenger is fairly rational in his spending, however my only beef with him is somehow his reluctance to adapt his tactics (this season he showed that he could adapt to the teams he was playing against, something he didn't do before that much) and how sentimental he is, any other club would've kicked Diaby long ago because of his injuries, yet Wenger always kept him and the guy was always unfortunate

What Arsenal really needs is a defense, Mertsacker needs to go, Koscielny can be inconsistent too. Coquelin showed great potential, but for a team that likes possession, he isn't the perfect fit, someone like Busquets would be the missing piece for your midfield, Coquelin reminds me of Mascherano considering how agressive they both are as DM, but their ability to read the game, position themselves isn't all that good

Busquets may seem most of the time standing on the field, people even think he doesn't run, yet he's always one of the players who cover most distance, he simply looks for spaces all the time, my only problem with him is how weak he is in the aerial game

As for striker, that may not be oh so necessary, lots of teams have their best goalscorers not being your typical striker... Alexis/Walcott would work well as goalscorers, in the condition that Giroud does his work and creates spaces, and sometimes acts like a pivot. He also needs to work on his finishing too (one of the reasons Arsenal lost against Monaco was Giroud)

I think Arsenal's defense is okay. Koscielny is one of the best in the league and Mertesacker although is slow, he knows he's no Maldini, he tries to keep things simple. Chambers is decent too. Not sure about the Paulista though.
Coquelin is a good DM but he is young and what if he gets injured? Don't have back ups. Wenger could've tried for Schneiderlin, outbidding United wasn't impossible imo. This is the thing I hate about Wenger. The way he does his transfers. Why he passed on Fabregas? We could've easily gotten him. Why he didn't go for strikers like Mandzukic, Vietto, Martinez? Every signing is a risk. But to stay competitive it is necessary. Vietto and Mandzukic were not very expensive either. I just can't stand Giroud. He is as slow as Mertesacker. I'd rather play him as defender than striker. And without a 20 goal striker Arsenal are never gonna challenge for PL or CL.

 

[Zehahaha]

Mandzukic is pure shit, even Simeone said fuck you to him, Vietto cannot handle the PL when he has trouble with Simeone's intense training
Why buy a half season wonder (Cesc), that guy is a fraud, and that's coming from me who watched him for damn long + you guys have way too much attacking midfielders around (Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Rosicky, Wilshere), I do agree he could've done something for Schneiderlin, but again he asked for absurd wages (same as Ozil/Alexis), which plain stupid

 

[Rikudobito]

Nah. Wenger doesn't get sacked after getting thrashed by tennis scores time and time again in the same season. Why would you sack BR ?

Arsenal is Arsenal. Liverpool is Liverpool. What Liverpool does is irrespective of what Arsenal does. Liverpool haven't been beaten like this for years and Rodgers even lost the dressing room a while back. It's as if players were not even playing for him anymore. In the match against Real Madrid where we lost 3-0 at home, you could see that they were beaten, physically. What is the reason for this ? Inefficiency in training perhaps ? I remember when they were even practicing head tennis during training which turned out to be completely ineffective since they were still weak in the air afterwards.

Moreover, he was occasionally outsmarted by other EPL managers. He lost both encounters against Mourinho and Van Gaal. Rodgers himself is on very thin ice as of now. Most of his most trusted men are gone. They were replaced by people he doesn't know a lot about. If he doesn't perform, it's over for him.

 

[Zehahaha]

Benteke is just an Andy Carroll 2.0
I'd like to be proven wrong, but holy shit, Liverpool are just wasting their money

 

[Philia]

Benteke is just an Andy Carroll 2.0
I'd like to be proven wrong, but holy shit, Liverpool are just wasting their money

BR had to take a chance. He had to sign a big money striker. And quality strikers aren't available in this season. BR bought him just because he's a proven goalscorer in PL.
I think Ings is a good fit though. He is fast and works like a horse. Suits LFC style. Still I think BR would be the first one to get sacked.

 

[Zehahaha]

So far been impressed by the Arsenal youngsters, Adelaide is fucking good
I can't believe Samper/Adama/Grimaldo aren't getting chances in Barça like the Arsenal/United one, while that dickhead Gumbau gets chances

But hey, at least Rafinha is showing some great skills, Suarez is in top form too

Also wtf is wrong with Chelsea, parking the bus against PSG in a friendly really ?

Edit : Cech has definitely made an impact on the team, it's like watching another Arsenal with him, top signing from Wenger

 

[Shasha23]

wow I cant believe the Bogers out chants are here aswell :0

you guys are not giving BR and last seasons team the credit I think they deserve, mind you we finished 6th without the help of even 1 striker and made 2 semi finials, also if you remember the team BR has been using is a team he inherited not one he build himself, and if you look at the signings he did this past 2 seasons he signed players that were hungry, want to win and most importantly wanted to play for the greatest team in the world LFC, most of his current player want to win trophies something that has been missing for the past 8years, I think this current gen. LFC will easily finish in the top 4 and dare I say challenge next season

#YNWA

 

[Philia]

Barca having a terrible Preseason.

Waiting for Wenger to sign a striker and a DM.

 

[Zehahaha]

Defense was shaky as fuck, glad it's preseason, so they can work on it

 

[Philia]

Benzama set to join Arsenal

ALL HAIL ARSENE WENGER

 

[goldb]

That's not happening. We've been trying to get him for the last 2-3 years, I don't think it's gonna happen this season either. Just speculations from the media and the player's social activities.

 

[Zehahaha]

That's not happening. We've been trying to get him for the last 2-3 years, I don't think it's gonna happen this season either. Just speculations from the media and the player's social activities.

If Ronaldo turns into a striker (which he kinda is in the last two seasons) and they get some sub striker or someone from the Fabrica, he may leave
Although it seems Bale will be the one playing behind the strikers, so it means James/Isco position is threatned and may be thrown to the right wings (one of them)

It's still unclear tbh, and it may be possible

 

[Philia]

LOL Stuttgart 4 - 2 City


AND BAYERN DEFEATED BY WOLFSBURG.
You give LORD 20 mins he gives you a trophy.

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If Ronaldo turns into a striker (which he kinda is in the last two seasons) and they get some sub striker or someone from the Fabrica, he may leave
Although it seems Bale will be the one playing behind the strikers, so it means James/Isco position is threatned and may be thrown to the right wings (one of them)

It's still unclear tbh, and it may be possible

I think Jese will be Ronaldo's back up. They have Cheryshav, Vazquez(new guy not sure whether his name is correct) James, Isco & Bale to play behind Ronaldo. With Benzema joining Arsenal, according to reports Arsenal's
£46M bid will be accepted by Real

 

[Zehahaha]

LOL Stuttgart 4 - 2 City


AND BAYERN DEFEATED BY WOLFSBURG.
You give LORD 20 mins he gives you a trophy.

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I think Jese will be Ronaldo's back up. They have Cheryshav, Vazquez(new guy not sure whether his name is correct) James, Isco & Bale to play behind Ronaldo. With Benzema joining Arsenal, according to reports Arsenal's
£46M bid will be accepted by Real

Well mostly it's gonna 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2

Something like this

Spoiler

Navas
Danilo-Pepe-Ramos-Marcelo
Kroos-Modric
James-Bale-Cristiano
Benzema​

In the 4-4-2 scheme

Spoiler

Navas
Danilo-Pepe-Ramos-Marcelo
James-Kroos-Modric-Isco
Bale-Cristiano​

Jesé (right wing)/Cherychev (left wing aka Cristiano's position)/Vazquez are subs... What will basically happen to Benzema is that he won't be a starter everytime

Also, it seems that Bale/Cristiano are given freedom in their movement, so they'll be changing their position quite frequently in the field

Casemiro showed some good stuff too, gonna sub either Kroos or Modric

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Chamberlain goal with a superb Ozil pass
Coquelin being a boss

This is good, however Walcott needs to get his shit together, Mertesacker too

 

[Philia]

Mourinho trash talked Wenger the whole preseason. And then loses to him. With a better striker Arsenal will be able to do well in PL & CL.

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Well mostly it's gonna 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2

Something like this

Spoiler

Navas
Danilo-Pepe-Ramos-Marcelo
Kroos-Modric
James-Bale-Cristiano
Benzema​

In the 4-4-2 scheme

Spoiler

Navas
Danilo-Pepe-Ramos-Marcelo
James-Kroos-Modric-Isco
Bale-Cristiano​

Jesé (right wing)/Cherychev (left wing aka Cristiano's position)/Vazquez are subs... What will basically happen to Benzema is that he won't be a starter everytime

Also, it seems that Bale/Cristiano are given freedom in their movement, so they'll be changing their position quite frequently in the field

Casemiro showed some good stuff too, gonna sub either Kroos or Modric

Ronaldo is wasted in the wings these days. In his United days or even early Real days he used to work hard in the midfield. But now he always roams around Penalty box. It's better to play him as the main striker. And sell Benzema off course.

 

[Zehahaha]

Mourinho trash talked Wenger the whole preseason. And then loses to him. With a better striker Arsenal will be able to do well in PL & CL.

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Ronaldo is wasted in the wings these days. In his United days or even early Real days he used to work hard in the midfield. But now he always roams around Penalty box. It's better to play him as the main striker. And sell Benzema off course.

Yes true that
Benzema would be a fine addition to Arsenal for sure, I think Wenger's change + nearly the same squad for a couple of years helped the team get better too

I dunno about Cristiano, we'll see if Benitez has the balls to do that

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Gareth Bale is such a dumbass