Discussion The Gecko Moria thread

[Anti-panda]

The horns and all that might be surgical alterations by hogback...
Or there is the possibility that Oz is as he was renowned to be .. a demonic villian.. not just some giant.
Either possiblity is possible... Duh ignor that statement as it was redundant... but anyway .. While both are possible each bears unique pro's and con's ...
Considering we've seen a man with a lion for a face .. a lion with a man for a face.. a rampaging warthog... reanimated pirates.. and a three headed Fox/Dog ... I'm just gonna accept that the giant thing has Horns and not let the specific's bother me.

 

[Impel Down]

Alright, the following is just something I don't get about the zombie rating system, in comparison to the SH rating system.

Now, in other One Piece information books, they put Luffy and Zoro's power both at 6 (6 was the highest possible). But, with the zombie numbering thing, they put Jigouroh at 850 and Oz at 900. So, does that mean that Luffy is 50 zombies stronger than Zoro?

 

[Anti-panda]

Alright, the following is just something I don't get about the zombie rating system, in comparison to the SH rating system.

Now, in other One Piece information books, they put Luffy and Zoro's power both at 6 (6 was the highest possible). But, with the zombie numbering thing, they put Jigouroh at 850 and Oz at 900. So, does that mean that Luffy is 50 zombies stronger than Zoro?

The color books are completely seperate and info is not as reliable as what acctually makes it into the manga... the 6lvl for luffy and zoro basically means that they are both monsterously strong with the potential to be among the strongest characters in OP.

 

[Impel Down]

Eh, I guess. So, in that case, Luffy is definitely more powerful that Zoro, according to the TB ranking system, which I guess we can't rely too heavily on, since we really don't know much about it. The ZG could just get random numbers with 800 in them, and Oz could be reserved as 900 just because he's special, I suppose.

 

[OP_overlord]

i think that TB doesnt have a rating system they have armies, generals,... but the numbers that they have on them i think is just which was reanimated first or the stronger ones are the later ones but in no order
so zombie 258 is weaker then 678 but 678 is weaker then zombie 354 and 900 with luffys shadow is a beast
i dont remeber all the zombies numbers but some of the generals had low numbers and that pig thing had a high number and the bat had a number in the hundreds i think (i might have just made that all up i didnt have time to check them all out but it sounds right to me)
the zombies dont have rankings they have positions like sanji, and zoro are at the general level while luffy is at the comander level with ablsome and perona

 

[IgnorantSage]

And now back to Gecko Moria.

It seems he's gonna have a lot of troubles now that the baka trio are awake and ready to kick some zombie and shichibukai ass. He's also gonna need to find a way to neutralize Oz's rebellious behavior. How do you guys think he will handle all of these?

I think at first he's gonna order his underlings around to do the work for him and when he finds out that they have all been dispatched, he will immediately try to escape and the Mugiwaras won't be able to catch him which means that he'll make a reappearance in a later arc.

Oh and btw, does anybody here actually like Moria?

 

[Luckas]

Moderator Notice:
The subject of this thread is strongly connected to the latest chapters, for this reason please make attention not to violate these rules:

NO SPOILERS OUTSIDE THE SPOILER THREADS. This rule will be strictly enforced. Please respect those that don't want to be spoiled. Thanks.

<It isn't allowed either talking or reporting or making references or implying facts regarding the last released chapter outside his proper "discussion thread" and "predictions thread" until the week-end passed. Even with the use of "spoiler tag" it will be considered a violation of this rule.>

Break of this rule will result in:
- a warning the first time;
- a banning the second time, whose duration will be in relation to the gravity of the offense;


The discussion thread for the latest chapter is in the "One Piece Discussions" Board, under the Child Boards you'll find two sticky thread: the "discussion thread" for the latest chapter and the "predictions" thread for the next chapter.

The reason of this rule is to avoid spoiling people who didn't read the last released chapter immediately.

~ Luckas

 

[IgnorantSage]

Oops, sorry... my bad

 

[Impel Down]

Well, yeah, he'll obviously have his minions fight for him instead of himself fighting for...himself. We'll probably have more 600M jackpot on our hands with all the soldiers Moria will send after them.

 

[Absolutio]

umm.. I guess that moria body cant be a zombies, since DF powers seems no to transferr with the shadow, as we saw Ozz trying to gomu gomu no pistol and fails.

 

[Impel Down]

Maybe the body he put himself into was a zombie? See, he made the Moria body take him, then they killed the giant, and when it died, it dropped the shadow onto itself, thus creating Giant Moria, now with 45% more Kage Kage no mi!

 

[Anti-panda]

Maybe the body he put himself into was a zombie? See, he made the Moria body take him, then they killed the giant, and when it died, it dropped the shadow onto itself, thus creating Giant Moria, now with 45% more Kage Kage no mi!

What a deal 45% more... Wait a minute how did you even come up with that number?? XD

I don't know the only thing that keeps me from saying he's not in his right body is that DF abilities and such don't transfer from one body to the next .. so it would be safe to assume that if he was in a different body he wouldn't be able to use the Kagekage no mi...? Yes it is a puzzler but It just stands to show that oda could do anything he wants..
But if he could transplant himself into a zombified body I think he would simply put himself into Oz's body .. instead of just making it a zombie like any other.

 

[Naelyan]

Well, maybe moria isn't much of a fighter himself to begin with, his main ability being from the devil fruit... so he could have chosen a stronger body for himself, since giants are all quite strong, but keep the stronger body for his loyal slave that would fight for him..

But then, wouldn't it be a BIG weakness... he would have to hide his original body quite well for it not to be kill, and this giant body would only create a second moria, since the original would still exist, very conscious...

Then there's the problem of not being able to be under the sun, wouldn't it make it very difficult to become the pirate king then... he won't get to one piece just by staying hidden on thriller bark... so to me it's highly unlikely it's not his original body.

 

[Impel Down]

Well, to fight, he can knock any opponent out cold in a few seconds. Just take their shadow, and they are out of commission, right? And they'd probably die too, but I imagine he makes it so that DOESN'T happen, so he can use their shadows to make soldiers, and sends the bodies off on their own.

 

[Naelyan]

Yeah, that's one thing to grap one's shadow when they're all tie down, but in a one-on-one fight, he wouldn't have time to do that... it's not like he can just ripp it off, he needs to cut it... also, it seems the shadow needs to be real clear for him to be able to grap it, cause they had to put that light behind him before he could take luffy's shadow... and anyway, he might not be able to even touch luffy if he goes gear second, then his ability would be useless...

So i think moria might not be so much of a fighter himself, but he has such a huge bounty cause of his ability that allows him to control loyals servants probably stronger than him and make them do his will.

 

[Impel Down]

Well, how long could it take to grab and cut a shadow? But you're right, it did need to be clear and he needs a light, so he probably has always relied on people getting and holding his captives for him, so he probably can't fight that effectively.

 

[Anti-panda]

Well it all really boils down to if after defeating a zombie ... the shadow returns to it's owner.. or if it simply returns to moria.. because then it all boils down to beating moria to get your shadow back.

If you don't have a shadow he can't incapacitate you by removing it. Plus he has to hold a person down to remove thier shadow .. which would've been hard to do in the middle of a fight.

 

[Impel Down]

Well, Zoro said they did, and that's the most information we've had on the subject so far, so probably. And of course my idea for Moria's fighting would only work against people with shadows, but if he takes someone's shadow, he'd probably just have them fight their zombie, perpetuating the "You do it!" motto.

 

[Anti-panda]

Well, Zoro said they did, and that's the most information we've had on the subject so far, so probably. And of course my idea for Moria's fighting would only work against people with shadows, but if he takes someone's shadow, he'd probably just have them fight their zombie, perpetuating the "You do it!" motto.

Yeah but You do it! only works when you have minions .. Zoro sanji and luffy... along with the rest of the strawhats are gonna go "Ape Shit" and completly descemate the forces of gekko moria..I think if one person who knows the secret of how to purify zombies.. can cause a huge mess then the strawhats who know the secret can totally whoop him. I look forward to the damage.

 

[Paz42]

I have a couple of things i would like to bring to the disscusion

1. Where was thriller bark built ? because with it being the biggest pirate ship in the world it must have been needed to be built by some of the best ship builders in the world so surely it would have been built in water 7 and how much money must moria have accumulated to afford such a wonderful ship?

2. what kind of other uses will moria have from his DF other then removing shadows and attaching them to new bodies because as other people have said removing them is not a good combat ability i hope that there is nothing similar to shika's powers from naruto but i have a couple of ideas

A. He will be able to attack people's shadows and the will affect the physcial body as he must be able to touch shadows to be able to hold them as he transplants them into the new body

B. Now i dont know if any one remembers a cartoon show in the 90's cant remember the name of the show but the main bad guys where skeletons. Now one of the good guys had an abilite to move through shadows to other shadows now i was thinking maybe moria could have a power similar to this giving him the illusion of moving at tremendous speeds. I do however think that this the least likely of my ideas as its similar to bluno's (think thats the right name) power and we know oda doesnt like to repeat himself

C. That his own shadow may be able to attack people as a seperate entity so that it would be like fighting 2 morias at the same time i think that this one could be really cool and a nice suprise half way through the fight has to fight 2 morias insted of 1

Sorry for the really long post but i thought of theese and i just thought that i should write them down before i forget about them