Discussion The Gecko Moria thread

[Naelyan]

Thriller bark was originally an island from west blue, brooke said so when we first saw it. And I don't really see why DF have to be fighting abilities, some aren't... bon clay's, brook's... and given his motto, I think there's a fair chance he ain't all that strong himself.

 

[Impel Down]

So, Moria turned the island into a boat? Like what Iceburg is doing with W7? Or was it a huge ship built in the West Blue?

And in your comparison, you chose people who are really strong but don't use their DF, so then Moria could have ways of fighting without his DF too.

 

[Naelyan]

Well, there's really nothing more about thriller bark that we know right now, but somehow brooke learned it was an island, so, yes, I guess moria did something like that, or more likely, had it done by someone.

And sorry if it looked like that, but I didn't mean to prove that moria's not strong with those comparison... all I meant is DF's abilities aren't all fighting abilities, those two don't use it to fight... well, bon clay use it to cheat, but that's all... and they were just the first I could tought of

 

[Impel Down]

Yeah, you're right. Lucci still used his, but most of the fight was purely roukrishi. But I agree, that we don't really know enough to know if it's a ship mistaken for an island, or an island turned into a ship. Although, if it's either of those, it would have had to cost a lot of money, so Moria must have been a powerful pirate without the zombies before to rob and conquer enough people and countries to get the money for such a place.

 

[Naelyan]

Well, being a giant, fighter or not, he must be kinda strong, a hella lot stronger than average people, so outside the grand line, one don't need much more than that to be considered a powerful pirate... in fact, most people would be afraid just at the sight of a giant, so he might have threaten people to build it for him, he wouldn't even need his DF power to do something like that.

 

[Paz42]

i didnt mean he had to have some offensive abilities i was just wondering if he had more abilities from his DF other then just removing shadows i would think at least he can do somthing with his own shadow. I also think that there will be traps and hundreds of like super surprise zombies that are a last resort or somthing like that.

I had forgotten that Iceburg had said he was going to turn water 7 into a giant ship so maybe he got the idea from thriller bark after hearing about it from tom or somthing like that

 

[Impel Down]

If his DF only does what we've seen so far, then you can only really use it if you're supa rich or have a lot of power/influence. I guess that makes it one of Lucci's 9/10 fruits? I mean, it would be garbage to pretty much everyone else.

 

[Paz42]

i suppose your right not every DF is 100% useful but i also think its how crocodile said it depends on the person who is using it and how they learn to use it i mean do u think any one else would have been as creative as luffy with his DF

 

[Impel Down]

There have been people who've used their DF's creativly, like Crocodile, Enel, and Kaku. But, I guess Moria would have to come up with the zombie thing on his own, or got help from Hogback on how to do it.

 

[Paz42]

i agree i dont think that the implantation of the shadows is a somthing that he came across later with the help of hogback,

but thinking about that i think that he must be able to attack peoples shadows as i said before because i dont think when he ate his DF it came with this nice handy pair of scissors that will be able to cut peoples shadows off so objects hes holding could probably affect shadows aswell maybe pinning peoples shadows down with stakes or somthing like i know its kinda like shikas abilties but gecko can still move around

 

[Imitorar]

Yeah, you're right. Lucci still used his, but most of the fight was purely roukrishi. But I agree, that we don't really know enough to know if it's a ship mistaken for an island, or an island turned into a ship. Although, if it's either of those, it would have had to cost a lot of money, so Moria must have been a powerful pirate without the zombies before to rob and conquer enough people and countries to get the money for such a place.

Of course Moria was a powerful pirate before, he became a Shichibukai, remember, so of course he was powerful from the beginning. And Brook said, at least in Null's translation (and Null is the best group currently doing One Piece, even if they are a bit behind) "it was an island from West Blue originally" or something to that affect. Since he said originally, and it would be hard to move land onto a ship, but comparatively easy to hollow out an island and build a giant ship in the middle, I think Thriller Bark was an island turned ship.

 

[Impel Down]

So then why would Iceburg need to make blueprints, if such technology already existed? But I guess that does make sense, but most of the mansion and stuff would probably have been constructed after, since even the freezer/tower is just the main mast.

 

[weixiaobao]

i may have missed something..
can someone tell me.. how thousand sunny get into thriller Bark again?
*too lazy to search for it*

 

[Paz42]

they where taken into the ship via thoose huge mouth shaped gates after they met brooke as his ship was taken in aswell thriller bark was aware of them because they released the flare inside the barrel they found floating in the sea i think thats right any way Its currently at a seperate entrance that would be easy to leave from assuming most people would want to run away straight away after seeing such horrible things .

I dont think moria would want other people that could have flaoting island ships similar to his as that might challenge him if some one was to build a ship out of a bigger isnland so i think after the construction he would either destroy or keep the blue prints locked up on the ship.

 

[weixiaobao]

so the Thriller Bark is a submarine? that the water of it can connect to the ocean outside? and with water inside it cannot sunk?

 

[Impel Down]

It's not a submarine, it's just a huge boat. And what do you mean "the water of it can connect to the ocean outside" The water inside the ring is just the ocean, since the ring just floats around with the ship.

 

[weixiaobao]

well if it a sub .. then it explain how thousand sunny get on there...

because frankly i dunno how thousand sunny can get on there...

 

[Impel Down]

It got "on there" because the gate surrounding Thriller Bark opened up and they got trapped inside it, then when they went to "shore", Talleran stuck it there. Nothing about that could be better explained with the use of a submarine.

 

[weixiaobao]

tpam didn't get my point.. how can a ship open up and let water or thousand sunny to sail inside.. wouldn't it overflood and sink...

 

[Paz42]

well if theres like a dock kind of area theres purposely made to let water in or have water in it so as to capture theese ships and also as impel down said that area could just the ocean its self with the wall/gate floating ontime or somthing like that