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Who will be the next prince to die?


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This thread is meant for general discussions and speculations about the succession war.
I will steadily fill this opening post with all relevant information we have about the different princes so far so that we do not lose track about their different agendas.
The poll will be reset every time a prince dies.

This thread is also totally there to build different teams of favourite or most hated princes :)

So, here we go:

First prince Benjamin Hui Guo Rou

Sex: (Alpha-)Male
Full siblings with: Tserriednich
Mother: Unma
Nenguardian: A Xenomorph
Current agenda:
Benjamin is the supreme vice councellor of the Kakin Military. That gives him the right to install his private soldiers as bodyguards of all princes except Tserriednich (since he has special rights as the first Queen Unma's son).
Benjamin uses his soldiers as spies and, if possible, assassins for the other princes.
Currently installed bodyguards are:
  • Babamaina at prince Woble
  • Coventoba at Zhang Lei
  • Bracchi at Tubeppa
  • Musse at Camilla (via a spy nen ability, he knows Camilla wants Duazul to kill Benjamin and Halkenburg but he has no proof yet)
Like most other princes, Benjamin sent some of his soldiers to the nentraining Kurapika offers the princes (even though they know nen already) to keep tabs on him.

Trivia:
-He can wrestle down and kill lions with his bare hands and seems to like fighting in general.
-He didn't let his Bodyguards participate in the hunter exam because, according to Tserriednich, he was too proud to let them be judged by people he deemed inferior. Tserriednich, in reference to the seven deadly sins, equated him with the sin of Pride.
-He is a lot smarter than his apperance and temper suggests. He listens to his advisors.

Second prince Camilla Hui Guo Rou

Sex:
Female
Full siblings with: Lazarus, Halkenburg, Tubeppa
Mother: Duazul
Nenguardian: It looks similar to a huge jellyfish.
Current agenda:
Camilla urges her mother Duazul to kill Benjamin first and then Halkenburg (her own son) and by controlling Duazul, she gains valuable influence over a series of Bodyguards.
Currently, via initative from Duazul, first prince Benjamin's private soldiers and second queen Duazuls installed bodyguards are working together under the supervision of Duazul's bodyguard captain Mandon.
However, Camilla didn't send her guards to learn nen from Kurapika.
Kurapika in turn suspects she knows about nen.
Trivia:
-She is very proud and refers to herself as 'Cami' instead of 'I'.
-She has a bad relationship to Halkenburg.

Third prince Zhang Lei Hui Guo Rou

Sex: Male
Full siblings with: None
Mother:Tang Zhao Li
Nenguardian: A big wheel.
Current agenda:
Zhang Lei has no own bodyguards that know nen, which is why he contacted Kurapika to learn it from him. In exchange for getting first hand knowledge from Kurapika, he granted Prince Woble some of his own bodyguards (even tho he intended to send him some of which he knew that they were loyal to other princes).
Aside from Slacker, who he does not have control of, he sent Hashitou and Sakata to Prince Woble.

Trivia:
-His skintone changes to black sometimes. It is not known why.
-Oito's made Shimano thinks that he does not enjoy killing the younger princes and will not do so if
he is not force to do it.

Fourth prince Tserriednich Hui Guo Rou

Sex: Male
Full siblings with: Benjamin
Mother: Unma
Current agenda:
Currently, Tserriednich is set on learning nen. His bodyguard Theta, who is the only one of his guards of which he knows that they know nen, is supposed to be his teacher.
Theta intended to teach him as badly as she can so he learns slowly, since she thinks his character is not right for being so powerful, but Tserriednich found out and threatened her (indirectly with his nenbeast).
Furthermore, Tserriednich and Tubeppa teamed up in terms of gaining knowledge about nen and exchanging information. However, Tserriednich questions whether Tubeppa will survive the next banquet.
Trivia:
He despises ignorance and stupidity the most on this world, thinking a person who does not surpass a certain intellectual minimum is not a human after all.
He kills people (so far women) for his own pleasure, but enjoys it more when they are intelligent individuals.
He possesses eyes from the kura clan, which is the reason Kurapika wants to meet him.
He says the thing he hates the most in the world are lying women.
Fifth prince Tubeppa Hui Guo Rou

Sex:
Female
Full siblings with: Lazarus, Halkenburg, Camilla
Mother: Duazul
Nenguardian: A tank with a Toadhead.
Known agenda:
Tubeppa teamed up with Tserriednich against the top 3 princes because she loathes them. They want to exchange information.
She also uses her 'second Lieutenant' Maor to broker a deal about learning nen with Kurapika.
Trivia:
Seems to be competent at science.
Oito's maid Shimano thinks that Tubeppa has critical opinions about Kakin's system and would want to keep the younger princes alive, while also not being the one to contact people directly and let her agents do it for her instead.

Sixth prince Tyson Hui Guo Rou

Sex: Female
Full siblings with: none
Mother: Katrono
Nenguardian: A giant wormlike thing emitting lizardlike creatures.
Known agenda:
Tyson has shown intention to win the deathmatch, but seems to be too selfabsorbed and incompetent to actually participate in it. She also doesnt want her guards to learn nen from Kurapika.
She wrote a person 'bible' in which she is the messiah and hides in her room to get praised by her guards and maids and relax.
Trivia:
-She didnt let her bodyguards participate in the hunter's exam because according to Tserriednich she was too afraid of them getting dirty or injured.
-It is also said that she chooses the bodyguards after their good looks.
-In reference to the seven deadly sins, Tserriednich equated Tyson with Envy.

Seventh prince Lazarus Hui Guo Rou

Sex: Male
Full siblings with: Camilla, Halkenburg, Tubeppa
Mother: Duazul
Nenguardian: It looks like an erect Penis with mouth, eyes and wings.
Known agenda: Tyson does not seem to think he can win the deathmatch, he also didn't want to learn Nen personally (it takes too long, he thinks). However, he sends his guards to learn nen from Kurapika. He just relaxes in his room and smokes.
Trivia:
He is a smoker.
His bodyguards failed the hunter exam because they did not pass the lie detector Test since they had hidden agendas (assassination) in mind (according to Tserriednich's guess).
He has several friends in the drugaddict scene and takes drugs himself

Eigth prince Sale-Sale Hui Guo Rou

Sex: Male
Full siblings with: None
Mother:
Swinko-Swinko
Nenguardian: A giant flying ball with many mouths that emit liquid.
Known agenda:
When his mother urged him, after a long night of partying, to pull himself together and participate, he told her he has a great plan that he will pull off at the next banquet dinner.
Trivia:
He is easygoing and chills in his room with many escort women.

Ninth prince Halkenburg Hui Guo Rou

Sex:
Male
Full siblings with:
Camilla, Tubeppa, Lazarus
Mother: Duazul.
Nenguardian: A large Oni creature with wings.
Known agenda:
He asked the King of Kakin to withdraw from the succession war. The king told him to do so if he pleases.
It isn't clear yet why Halkenburg asked for this, however, he voices this plan after talking to Tserriednich at a dinner party.
After that, Halkenburg returned to his room and found all his guards dead. He collapsed and when he awakened, his guards were fine again for unknown reasons.
Halkenburg sees a feather on his hand, which suggests that his nenbeast (which is winged) has something to do with it.
Halkenburg sends his guards to learn nen from Kurapika.
Trivia:
He studied physics at a world famous college and is a good archer.
He had to go to a boarding school in young age because his father could not control him.
Tenth prince Kacho Hui Guo Rou

Sex: Female
Full siblings with:
Fuugetsu
Mother: Seiko
Nenguardian: Currently unknown
Known agenda:
She merges her forces with Fuugetsu's.
Most of her bodyguards and maids seem to hate her because she abuses them, but Melody feels like this is a fake persona.
She told Fuugetsu that she will win the deathmatch with the two of them surviving and then ask their father to spare Fuugetsu.
However, Melody thinks that this might be a lie.
It is highly possibly that Kacho wants to sacrifice for Fuugetsu and protect her and puts up that persona so it will be easier.
Trivia:
-Fuugetsu calls her 'Kaa' which Kacho does not like.
-She choose her bodyguards after how they looked and took only ugly ones.

Eleventh prince Fuugetsu Hui Guo Rou

Sex: Female
Full siblings with: Kacho
Mother: Seiko
Nenguardian: Currently unknown
Known agenda:
She merged her forces with Kacho's and wants to follow Kacho's plans, but is seemingly sad about their relationship being strained due to Kacho putting up a very obnoxious persona in front of her.
Trivia:
She wanted to talk about the succession war with Kacho, seemingly feeling uneasy with their plan, but Kacho brushed her off before she could clarify. It seems like she does not want to kill anyone.



Thirteenth prince Marayam Hui Guo Rou

Sex: Male
Full siblings with:
Momoze
Mother: Sevanchi
Nenguardian: A dragon who seems to grow bigger by the day.
Known agenda:
He seems to be too young to really voice opinions, we didn't see him talk yet. However, his mother Sevanchi favourited him over his sister and does everything she can to protect him.
Trivia:
He likes his pet hamster and video games.
Due to his young age, he seems to not yet be completely sure about formalities of royality, rather looking at his pet hamster than talking to guests in the black whale.

Fourteenth prince Woble Hui Guo Rou

Sex: Female
Full siblings with: None
Mother: Oito
Nenguardian: Currently unknown, but implied to have attacked the guards that were not in control of Oito.
Known agenda:
As a baby, her mother does decide in her place. Oito does not want to participate in the deathmatch.
Oito instead wants Halkenburg to win the deathmatch, because she has information about him with which she can blackmail him so that he cannot go after her.
Oito and Kurapika intend to enable Oito to flee togethe even before the deathmatch concludes with Woble from the black whale at some point.
Of her original bodyguards, only Kurapika and Bill are left, and Bill says the only two options he sees to get Oito off the boat either involve Pariston or Beyond.
Kurapika agreed to teach nen to all the other prince's bodyguards (up to 2 for each) and by that intends to force a stalement in terms of power.
Trivia:
Kurapika seemed to begin to care for her emotionally when he first held her.
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BODYGUARDS:

Since the bodyguards take utmost importance in this arc, i will list all the named and alive bodyguards, sorted by ther affiliation, here, together with a short summary of what they are up to atm.
While I already wrote some of their actions above, those are only if they are integral to the current agenda of a certain prince.
They will be mentioned here even if they just are on standby or trivial surveillance missions.
The Bodyguards will be ordered by who actually controls them, NOT by who formally controls them.
As thus, Benjamin's soldiers might formally be controlled by a lower prince, but they will be listed under his soldiers (not unma's), while Marayam's bodyguards (if they are not hunters) will be listed as Queen Sevanchi's guards.
This seems to enable a broader understanding of the situation instead just listing the persons.

Bodyguards of the queens:
These guards and agents are under direct control of the Queens, including those who are under formal control of the princes (for example, Kurapika is under formal control of Woble, while obviously it is Oito who can give him orders).
UNMA'S GUARDS:
Unma does not have known installed guards herself, but her son Benjamin's private soldiers function as her guards effectively.
Benjamin was able to pass his private army as bodyguards due to his political position in Kakin and was allowed to send those bodyguards as he pleased due to Unma's influence (except to Tserriednich).
It seems like Benjamin is Unma's favourite.
For their list, see Benjamin's soldiers beneath.

DUAZUL'S GUARDS:
While Camilla seems to have a tight control over her Mother Duazul, Duazul commands the follow guards commanded by her guard Mandam:

  • Mandam, captain of all guards affiliated with Duazul and currently at the Nentraining with Kurapika. He oversees even joint operations between Duazul's guards and Benedict's soldiers.
  • Slakka, Spy on Kurapika (formerly Zhang Lei), watching the Nentraining.
  • Nipaper, former spy on Momoze who wanted to kill her, now under investigation. He was not the killer.
  • Satobi, Captain of Duazul's private bodyguards (so her own guards, not the ones she installed). He is currently at Nentraining with Kurapika.
TANG ZHAO LI'S GUARDS:
  • Bladge, he was bodyguard of Momoze and wanted to kill her. He is in custody now but he was not the killer.
KATRONO'S GUARDS:
  • Laroc, he guarded Momoze but wanted to kill her. After her death, he is under investigation but was not the killer.
SWINKO SWINKO'S GUARDS:
Swinko Swinko has only one son, Sale Sale, and wants him to win at all costs. However, it seems like she does not trust him enough to control her guards and does actions by herself.
  • Muciajo. He guarded Sale Sale's door before and is currently at Nentraining with Kurapika.
SEIKO'S GUARDS:
  • Nagmun, he was a guard for Momoze and wanted to kill her. He is under investigation now, but was not the killer after all.
SEVANCHI'S GUARDS:
Even before Momoze's death, Sevanchi wanted Marayam and not Momoze to win the succession war.
Since Marayam is too young to enact authority, all if his (and formerly Momoze's) bodyguards are under her control.
  • Wergei, not much is known about him but he guards Marayam at the moment.
OITO'S GUARDS:
Since Bill and Kurapika are Hunters and even all the spies and many maids died, Oito only has one person under her direct control left.
  • Shimano, a maid of prince Woble. Currently she aides Oito and Kurapika.

Bodyguards from the Hunter Association:
The bodyguards of the Hunter Association are under formal control of the corresponding princes, but being hunters, they often have own agendas and reasons to be there.
  • Kurapika, wants to meet Tserriednich to get the scarlet eyes in his posession. He is a bodyguard of prince Woble and, by now, coordinates the planned escape and protection of Oito and Woble.
  • Melody, on board as part of Kurapika's team to get the scarlet eyes. Is part of Kacho's bodyguards.
  • Hanzo, on board as part of Kurapika's team to get the scarlet eyes. Was meant to protect Momoze, but Sevanchi redirected him to the protection of Marayam instead.
  • Biscuit, on board as part of Kurapika's team to get the scarlet eyes. Is part of Marayam's bodyguards along with Hanzo.
  • Bsho, on board as part of Kurapika's team to get the scarlet eyes. He is part of Luzurus' bodyguards.
  • Izunavi, on Board as part of Kurapika's team to get the scarlet eyes. Is part of Taithon's bodyguards.
  • Bill, employed via Pariston (while it isn't clear under which pretenses). Is part of prince Woble's bodyguards.
  • Sayird, employed via Pariston (while it isn't clear under which pretenses). he was part of prince Woble's bodyguards, but after a Nenbeast made him kill other guards, he is in custody right now.
  • Vereleinte, a hunter who guarded prince Marayam and is at Kurapika's nentraining now on behalf of Queen Sevanchi who wants him to check whether Kurapika tells the truth.
The Princes private Guards:
These are the guards which are under direct and uncompromised control of the princes
BENJAMIN'S GUARDS:
Benjamin, being the surpreme vice counsellor, uses soldier instead guards which are fiercely loyal to him. His group of soldiers is coordinated by his military advisor Balsamico.
  • Balsamico Might, captain of the squad. He stays close to Benjamin to give him advise.
  • Furykov. He was sent to Kurapika's nentraining.
  • Babamaina. He was sent to Woble to spy on him and participates at Kurapika's nentrain.
  • Bracchi. He is spying on Tubeppa.
  • Coventoba, he spies on Zhan Lei.
  • Musse is spying on Camilla. He has an ability that enables him to eavesdrop even through walls. He knows Camilla wants to kill Benjamin and Halkenburg, but has no proof yet.
  • Vict. He was guarding Momoze but wanted to kill her. He is in custody now.
ZHANG LEI'S GUARDS:
  • Hashitou, currently guarding prince Woble and attending Kurapika's nentraining.
  • Sakata, currently guarding prince Woble and attending Kurapika's nentraining.
  • Tenfutori, currently at the nentraining. he is supposed to inform Zhang Lei about who gets into contact with Kurapika during the nentraining.
TSERRIEDNICH'S GUARDS:
  • Muhan, currently at the nentraining. If unable to learn nen in 2 weeks, he are supposed to kill everyone there with Danjin.
  • Danjin, currently at nentraining. if unable to learn nen in 2 weeks, he is supposed to kill everyone there with Muhan.
  • Theta. Theta knows nen and has somewhat of an authority over Tserriednich's guards. However, she does not want Tserriednich to learn nen and such teaches him badly on purpose. When Tserriednich found out, he threatened to kill her. Whether he did is not clear by now.
  • Salkov, one of Tserriednich's bodyguards. Together with Theta, he does not want Tserriednich to learn nen, but lets her handle it. He can use nen himself.
TUBEPPA'S GUARDS:
  • Longi, currently at nentraining. He and Maor are supposed to get into contact with Kurapika during the train to make him into an ally for Tubeppa.
  • Maor, Second lieutenant in the Kakin army and captain of Tubeppa's guards. He and Longi are at nentraining with Kurapika and supposed to get into contact with him to make him into an ally for Tubeppa.
HALKENBURG'S GUARDS:
Halkenburg's guards seem to have a high opinion of him. They all got a strange mark on their hand from Halkenburg's nenbeast for unknown reasons.
  • Yuhirai, currently at nentraining. Got, along with Halkenburg and his other guards, a feathermark on his hand from Halkenburg's beast.
  • Cejour, currently at nentraining.Got, along with Halkenburg and his other guards, a feathermark on his hand from Halkenburg's beast.
KACHO'S GUARDS:
Kacho abuses her guards, which is why they are not really loyal to her and hope she is kileld soon. However, they follow her order.
  • Loveely, a maid. She was sent to kurapika's nentraining.
  • Yuri, a maid. She was sent to Kurapika's nentraining.

FUUGETSU'S GUARDS:

  • Bachaem, guarding Fuugetsu right now. He noticed that he and Ryoji are the only ones actually trying to protect Fuugetsu.
  • Ryoji, guarding Fuugetsu together with Bachaem.
  • Iraludia, a maid. She was sent to Kurapika's nentraining.
  • Radiolas, a maid. She was sent to Kurapika's nentraining.
 
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We actually didn't get Camilla inner thoughts just thought you should know.
 

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It's really hard to know who will die for now. The ones protected by the Hunters we know should be a live for a while, along with Tserriednich and Benjamin. But I am sure that one of the characters protected by the the Hunters we know will be killed by Camilla, Zhang Lei Tubeppa or Sale-Sale, because they are kinda underestimated due to this, I am sure they have some powerhouses, a list of the bodyguards for each princes would be good. My bet is on Lazurus for now, because he doesn't seem to be well prepared at all and is immature(lost his bodyguards like an idiot during the Hunter exam) while there are people like Tserriednich who ordered his guards to memorize the floor plan of the Black Whale so they should be effective even without Nen but the Nen Beasts can change everything...

@shionoro We know that Harkenburg has a bad relationship with Camilla and Tubeppa. You could also add the reference to the seven deadly sins. Tserriednich said that Benjamin is Pride, Tyson is Envy.
 

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@TSPanda Thanks, studying starts again soon, so i gotta put more effort into procrastinating :)

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True, i will edit that. I am rereading the relevant chapters today to look for stuff i have missed

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I think so too about Lazarus. He was shown as incompetent and has less influence than the bigshot princes.
the only reason he might have an edge is because he has basho, but it could also be a shocking twist that basho is killed.
 

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I'm interested in what the mothers think of this succession war. We know what Otio thinks of it but what about the others? Who does Unma want to win out of her sons Benjamin or Tserriedhich? Out of Droisulle 4 children does she support Camilla, Tsubeppa, Lazurus? I'm not including Halkenburg since it seems Monther and Son have a crappy relationship.
 

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I'm interested in what the mothers think of this succession war. We know what Otio thinks of it but what about the others? Who does Unma want to win out of her sons Benjamin or Tserriedhich? Out of Droisulle 4 children does she support Camilla, Tsubeppa, Lazurus? I'm not including Halkenburg since it seems Monther and Son have a crappy relationship.
I would think that the mothers might not be able to express their honest opinion about it. I think they are checked out on it.
possibly because children who dont act according to the rules get killed and the mothers dont want that.

I would assume that we can see which mothers were not 100% fine with the rules when we look at the children who are concerned about the fighting.
I dont think momoze's, maryams and fuugetsus mom were fine with what happens.
 

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This post is like a charm! Thank you for spending the time to create it, it was a very good idea.

It clears things a lot, and i increased my understading of the situation thanks to it.

I found a few minor things:
Seventh and Eighth princes is written to have both hired Basho.

Eleventh prince:
Notable relationships to other princes:
To her full sister Kacho. For details, see Tserriednich's entry. -- maybe is Kacho's entry.

Also it would help to add a picture of each prince if you have the time. Thank you again
 

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This post is like a charm! Thank you for spending the time to create it, it was a very good idea.

It clears things a lot, and i increased my understading of the situation thanks to it.

I found a few minor things:
Seventh and Eighth princes is written to have both hired Basho.

Eleventh prince:
Notable relationships to other princes:
To her full sister Kacho. For details, see Tserriednich's entry. -- maybe is Kacho's entry.

Also it would help to add a picture of each prince if you have the time. Thank you again

Thanks, those were copy&pasting mistakes :)
Alright, i will add Pictures until tomrrow.
Should be finished with rereading and adding tidbits until the next chapter Comes out
 
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Thank you for the images, i also suggest to put them outside spoiler
 

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Thank you for the images, i also suggest to put them outside spoiler
Well let's try. it looked badly when i look at it before, but i might have an idea how it looks better.
*changing*
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Edit: Ah, i feel the post will become to big and it will be less cohesive if i do that.
I cannot put the pictures to a good place where it would fit :p

I guess as this arc proceeds we will get more used to the names of the princes anyway, tho.

And some of them will die early on^^

I think that we will be surprises about princes dying rapidly early on.
--- Double Post Merged, ---
I have been reading myself into the topic of Gu.

Usually, when togashi gives out analogies or images, it isn't for naught.
So if he likens the succesion war to Gu, it is probably important.

Roughly, Gu is a chinese ritual where many poisonous small animals like insects, toads, snakes, scorpions or worms are put in a sealed jar until one has killed an eaten all the rest.
The survivor is thought to have concentrated all the poison of its prey and thus the extracted poison of the survivor is given a special meaning, gu poison.
Now, the old chinese did all kinds of crazy things with that poison, it was comparable to black magic.

The analogy to kakin is clear:The nenbeasts seem to be the essence of the will of the corresponding princes. So far, we have seen rather friendly nenbeasts (presumedly).
They are responsible for the deaths of persons already, but kurapika thought that woble's beast acted in self defense and we do not know much about the hamster beast yet. It seemed rather innocent and playful, even when it was reponsible for dead persons (which makes me believe that it in fact belong to a child, maryam).
In any case, they didnt attack each other, which is their mainpurpose and they didnt just mindlessly attack the humans they encountered either.
These beasts are in my opinion all of rather gentle princes.

I believe the beasts of the higher ranking princes are much more ferocious. I think if they had been down there, they would have already started to devour the smaller ones.

In this analogy, the black ship is the sealed jar from which noone can escape.

And if the King's beast is any indication to go by, the beasts of the higher ranking princes won't be cute hamsters.

The bests we know so far are (added with my guess who they belong to):

The Hamster (Maryam)
The worm (woble)
The dragon (momoze)
The Lizards (Fuugetsu)
The Jellyfishs (kacho)


It could be tho the the worm is in fact fuugetsu or kacho and that the lizards belong to wobel, because the lizards are the only creature we didnt see passing through a wall into wobel's room.

I am really sure by now that the King of Kakin wants the competition to be almost independend from the bodyguards and other influences the different princes have.
He wants the one to survive whose will is stronger than all others', and that is the one with the strongest and most ferocious nenbeast.
And it will be hard work for the bodyguards of the lower princes to prevent that from happening.

We all assumed that the ritual will be finished and in fact only one prince will survive. But possibly Kurapika and co can prevent that after all?
 

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Ooh very nice @shionoro ^^ This post should become a reference !

Before I start commenting I would like to point out that I noticed a "typo" about the third prince Zhang's full siblings, you put Lazarus and others, while in actuality he doesn't have any. Another thing is in both Zhang and Tserriednich's "Known agenda" entries, it says they wanna become "queens", which is kinda misleading (if you know what I mean :derp).

Anyway, I'm really interested in seeing new teams or alliances formed between the princes, so far we know only about Fuu and Kacho. Tserriednich and Halkenberg is also a possibility.
 

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Ooh very nice @shionoro ^^ This post should become a reference !

Before I start commenting I would like to point out that I noticed a "typo" about the third prince Zhang's full siblings, you put Lazarus and others, while in actuality he doesn't have any. Another thing is in both Zhang and Tserriednich's "Known agenda" entries, it says they wanna become "queens", which is kinda misleading (if you know what I mean :derp).

Anyway, I'm really interested in seeing new teams or alliances formed between the princes, so far we know only about Fuu and Kacho. Tserriednich and Halkenberg is also a possibility.
Ah, true, thank you. I copy n pasted those from camilla's entry and forgot to switch genders :)

I actually don't even know whether the ruler of kakin is KING by default,.
I mean if camilla is a prince now, does she become king if she wins, and are her husbands then queens? ^^
Kakin sure is confusing with that.
Anyway, changed it.

I am also interested in the teams the princes will form. The higher princes don't seem overtly social and cooperative, but i bet the princes in the middle all know they will need alliances to take down the big shots like benjamin.
I think the young ones will ally with their siblings (fuu with kaa and momoze with maryam), but not in order to kill the rest but just to survive.
 

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After all this time, we can finally update this thread @shionoro. We know Momoze's Nen Beast and its powers( Manipulation and parasitic type, can become invisible to everyone but its target and annoys said target asking if it's free until it gives a positive answer, when it does, the beast gets spider legs and control the target, feeding on its aura), and also Halkenburg's Nen Beast looks.

It's implied that the multiple beasts which appeared along with Momoze's mouse are Marayam's but we need a confirmation.
 

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After all this time, we can finally update this thread @shionoro. We know Momoze's Nen Beast and its powers( Manipulation and parasitic type, can become invisible to everyone but its target and annoys said target asking if it's free until it gives a positive answer, when it does, the beast gets spider legs and control the target, feeding on its aura), and also Halkenburg's Nen Beast looks.

It's implied that the multiple beasts which appeared along with Momoze's mouse are Marayam's but we need a confirmation.
Yes, the first thing when i come home tomorrow is updating this thread :)
Exspecially about nenbeasts and about the children of Sevanchi.
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Did some updates.
Let's talk about Momoze:

When momoze thought:

'I pity mother and Marayam... People without even the capacity to be king", what did she mean?

I mean, it could mean that she pities them for not having what it takes to be king, but it could also mean she pities them for having such a weak sister/daughter.
The bit ccame right after her mom pulled away even more of her bodyguards and after Momoze feeling very weak (connected to her nenbeast).
 

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I'd say it's because she considers them unworthy of the crown. Oito said all kids have been raised like that initially, there is something weird between Kacho and Fugetsu, but Momoze must be like most of her siblings, Marayam probably doesn't care but he has the support of his mom. Unless there is a twist(very likely, I assume the tint beasts in Chapter 360 were Marayam's beasts), Momoze will probably kill Marayam,
 

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I'd say it's because she considers them unworthy of the crown. Oito said all kids have been raised like that initially, there is something weird between Kacho and Fugetsu, but Momoze must be like most of her siblings, Marayam probably doesn't care but he has the support of his mom. Unless there is a twist(very likely, I assume the tint beasts in Chapter 360 were Marayam's beasts), Momoze will probably kill Marayam,
That sounds deliciously dark.
 

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That sounds deliciously dark.
Well, they are supposed to kill each others. I am sure Sevanchi has a plan to kill Momoze too. Her favoritism is obvious.
 

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Given his name I think Lazarus will fake his death somehow and later return towards the end.
 

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Given his name I think Lazarus will fake his death somehow and later return towards the end.
Lol I doubt Toaghsi named him after the Lazarus pit.
 
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