Discussion The Missing Nakamas

[Bellamy]

it's almost 100% sure rebecca will join but she's not on the list?

Well, why 100% sure ?
It could be interesting to develop, don't you think ?

 

[7pac]

i don't feel like writing right now, but i'll develop my theory for sure, why i'm so sure is that the leader of this secret alliance vs doflamingo is soldier, rebecca wants the mera mera to defeat doflamingo and protect soldier, needless to say she can't do either of them, even if she gets the mera mera, I can already see doflamingo killing soldier, and luffy going complete bonkers, defeating doflamingo and ask rebecca to join her crew since she has no more attachment to dressrosa.

Now 2 things can happen, either she refuses and becomes the queen once again like her family of dressrosa, however this is too much alabasta style, and would be repetitive imo.

Second Choice is that she joins the crew, well that's how I see it.

Ok it's not 100% sure, but whats sure is that they WILL get a new nakama after this arc.

 

[M3J]

C'mon... Don Krieg's right-hand man? Who gave Luffy the mask to save him from the poison gas? Knocked Don Krieg unconscious once he lost to Luffy?

Ah, I remember now. I don't mind seeing him again, but I don't want him to join either.

Hey guys !
Glad to see that this thread is well received.
- Wiper :
- Hachi / :
- Kinemon :

I don't mind these people possibly joining the crew sometimes in the future, they'd be good additions. I think Bellamy might join - rather, Bellamy is more likely to join than Rebecca, especially since she's the granddaughter of a former king who was likely ousted because of Doflamgino's nefariousness.

 

[Kaiten]

I don't mind these people possibly joining the crew sometimes in the future, they'd be good additions. I think Bellamy might join - rather, Bellamy is more likely to join than Rebecca, especially since she's the granddaughter of a former king who was likely ousted because of Doflamgino's nefariousness.

I agree, Bellamy makes more sense than Rebecca. He's probably going to betray Doflamingo and help Luffy, forcing him to forsake his dream. Since he can't join Doflamingo's crew, he could end up joining Luffy's instead. I'm not convinced anyone is going to join after this arc, but if anyone does, I think it will be Bellamy.

 

[Bellamy]

I don't mind these people possibly joining the crew sometimes in the future, they'd be good additions. I think Bellamy might join - rather, Bellamy is more likely to join than Rebecca, especially since she's the granddaughter of a former king who was likely ousted because of Doflamgino's nefariousness.

I agree, Bellamy makes more sense than Rebecca. He's probably going to betray Doflamingo and help Luffy, forcing him to forsake his dream. Since he can't join Doflamingo's crew, he could end up joining Luffy's instead. I'm not convinced anyone is going to join after this arc, but if anyone does, I think it will be Bellamy.

Ok it's not 100% sure, but whats sure is that they WILL get a new nakama after this arc.

I think so too. I've evoked several theories before about this subject. However, I think that someone has to join and more important, to be part of the current story. For that, there is to me until now 3 or 4 serious pretenders.

- Rebecca, though she's indeed tied to the Kindgom imo. I don't believe that the Mera Mera no Mi will obviously get to the future Strawhat, whether it is her or a dwarf. I think that Luffy just wants the fruit to goes to someone strong and who deserves the former power of Ace.
- Wicca, or a dwarf. (for the reasons already stated on this topic)

- Bellamy, because of his comeback and the fact that he changed a lot. The thing is, I'm afraid that he will not join, because I think he will definitely redeemed to us and Luffy by a life-saving sacrifice, or he will join Heart Pirates. Or even worse... I'm saying that for some reasons that I'd like to develop.

First, I think that until now, he didn't get enought screen-time. More important, he showed us his new skills. He's stronger, that's for sure. But in the end, he lost the battle like simple fodder, only to hype Bartolomeo. Sure, the King's Punch was strong as hell, and I'm certain that even Luffy would have been in troubles. The fact is, it's weird to me to reintroduce a character to make him loose. We don't want a new member who is weak. So, until Bellamy shows us his true new "change" in an outside arena fight, I will say that he would be an useless addition regarding this aspect.

Second, I find hard to believe that he will quit his forever dream. I mean, he was beaten by Doflamingo under the hands of Sarquiss, and everyone thought the bastard was dead. He lost all his friends too. And still, he managed to bring a freaking Golden Pillar to him after all that and "destroyed countries that laughed at Dressrosa". That's something, and shows for sure how loyal he is. I honestly don't know what would make him change right now... The underground work of DD's family ? Slavery ? Smiles ? Children ? Orders to kill Luffy ? For me, will he be on Luffy's side is the great question of the following chapters.

Third, and here it's rather a good point : he's a brawler. I miss old-Franky who's just a walking firepower weapon right now. I doubt he will Franky Boxing again... So, really, I would want another type of brawler in the crew.


All others characters introduced will be either future allies or are simply ennemies.
I still have a doubt about Toy Soldier, Kanjurou and Violet, but that's it. Bartolomeo, Cavendish, they will never join. They have a crew. They will be allied.

 

[matzik1212]

I agree, Bellamy makes more sense than Rebecca. He's probably going to betray Doflamingo and help Luffy, forcing him to forsake his dream. Since he can't join Doflamingo's crew, he could end up joining Luffy's instead. I'm not convinced anyone is going to join after this arc, but if anyone does, I think it will be Bellamy.

Don't quite like Bellamy . I still hold a grudge for what happened back at Jaya but still IMO he doesn't fit the crew . I'm sure he has his crew somewhere waiting for him . But he could become an ally like most of the people Luffy meet

What do you guys think about Kanjuro ? Maybe he will be nice nakama material ^_^

 

[TheLuffySmile]

^ Yeah I've actually got a good feeling about Kanjuurou! I mean, Oda has taken the time to build him up, showed us his shadow, one of the main missions is to rescue him, he is likely imprisoned at the same place that the tournament fighters are. I would actually like a cool samurai in the crew. And no I don't count Zoro as a samurai since he doesn't wear such clothes, doesn't have a top-knot and does not look like one in general except his three katana.

 

[Bellamy]

Don't quite like Bellamy . I still hold a grudge for what happened back at Jaya but still IMO he doesn't fit the crew . I'm sure he has his crew somewhere waiting for him . But he could become an ally like most of the people Luffy meet

What do you guys think about Kanjuro ? Maybe he will be nice nakama material ^_^

Nope, his crew no longer exists. It was confirmed two times. So...
For me, it's pretty simple. Either he will die, get trashed, join Heart Pirates, or join Mugiwaras.

Kanjurou is pretty mysterious and could be the next Nakama material. But again, another swordman would bore me... It would be too often the same fights, just different styles, and I don't want that.

 

[Kaiten]

First, I think that until now, he didn't get enought screen-time. More important, he showed us his new skills. He's stronger, that's for sure. But in the end, he lost the battle like simple fodder, only to hype Bartolomeo. Sure, the King's Punch was strong as hell, and I'm certain that even Luffy would have been in troubles. The fact is, it's weird to me to reintroduce a character to make him loose. We don't want a new member who is weak. So, until Bellamy shows us his true new "change" in an outside arena fight, I will say that he would be an useless addition regarding this aspect.

He'll be back soon. He has been ordered to kill Luffy. I am going to assume he does not follow through on his orders. He did not seem at all enthusiastic. There will probably a short tussle, not lasting even a full chapter. Then Bellamy will help lead Luffy and Rebecca into the factory, as thanks for Luffy cheering him during B Block.

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For me, it's pretty simple. Either he will die, get trashed, join Heart Pirates, or join Mugiwaras.

Freed from Doflamingo, he could set out on his own, to form a new crew, and seek adventure. He could promise to always be a friend to Luffy and the Strawhats, and pledge to help them whenever they need. Small crews in the New World need to form alliances with big crews. Luffy is going to need allies to beat Kaido, and will gain even more after. Bellamy's new crew could be one of those allies. I also think Cavendish and Bartolomeo will become allied crews, in the same sense that the Sun Pirates were allies of Whitebeard.

 

[Bellamy]

Even if your scenario for Bellamy is possible, I can't imagine how difficult it would be for one solitary Pirate to go by himself searching a brand new cry on the New World... Especially if it's a former Pirate of a fallen Shichibukai.

For now, I still don't know what Oda's planning for him. I mean, we have to realize that he came far, and after all that, I would find really disapointing to just use him for the sole purpose of leading Luffy to the factory. Which he could be not even aware of.

 

[BetaRuler]

What if Bellamy joined Bartolomeo? Yep, that's as far my thoughts got!

 

[Kaiten]

Don't quite like Bellamy . I still hold a grudge for what happened back at Jaya but still IMO he doesn't fit the crew . I'm sure he has his crew somewhere waiting for him . But he could become an ally like most of the people Luffy meet

What do you guys think about Kanjuro ? Maybe he will be nice nakama material ^_^

I don't think he will join. I don't think anyone from Dressrosa will join. But if someone were to join, he would make the most sense. Oda has surprised us before. Nobody expected Robin would join after Alabasta.

Even if your scenario for Bellamy is possible, I can't imagine how difficult it would be for one solitary Pirate to go by himself searching a brand new cry on the New World... Especially if it's a former Pirate of a fallen Shichibukai.

For now, I still don't know what Oda's planning for him. I mean, we have to realize that he came far, and after all that, I would find really disapointing to just use him for the sole purpose of leading Luffy to the factory. Which he could be not even aware of.

You've got to be able to find crew members in the New World. New crews have to form, old crews have to find new members.

The purpose of bringing him back would be closure, to show the audience that he has grown as a Pirate, and a man. He's no longer the cynical thug from Jaya, but someone with a dream. It would be a nice little message about redemption.

 

[Bellamy]

I don't think he will join. I don't think anyone from Dressrosa will join. But if someone were to join, he would make the most sense. Oda has surprised us before. Nobody expected Robin would join after Alabasta.



You've got to be able to find crew members in the New World. New crews have to form, old crews have to find new members.

The purpose of bringing him back would be closure, to show the audience that he has grown as a Pirate, and a man. He's no longer the cynical thug from Jaya, but someone with a dream. It would be a nice little message about redemption.

I don't think that crews form themselves out of nothing in the New World. Unless you can gather extremely competents people and more important, nakamas, on 1 island. No way a single lambda Pirate could make it through the chaotic see without at least a navigator, and even like that... But I'm going off-topic, plus it's simply my opinion, so let's move on shall we ?

However, I would be very interested to know why you don't think anyone will join ? Because, as far as I remember, this is the first time there is so many nakama material on a single arc.

 

[Ninomiya]

I don't think that crews form themselves out of nothing in the New World. Unless you can gather extremely competents people and more important, nakamas, on 1 island. No way a single lambda Pirate could make it through the chaotic see without at least a navigator, and even like that... But I'm going off-topic, plus it's simply my opinion, so let's move on shall we ?

Its okay its not too off-topic from your own thread as we're discussing the methods of gaining nakama.

And I agree with you strongly that we are yet to see or even hear of something like new crews just forming in New World.
I mean, just to get to New World requires you to have some serious Nakama.

In New World, its Alliances that are formed. Not crews.*

I think all these Dressrosa guys will become Alliance members of the what will later be known as the Straw Hat Alliance.

 

[Ryuma00]

Its okay its not too off-topic from your own thread as we're discussing the methods of gaining nakama.

And I agree with you strongly that we are yet to see or even hear of something like new crews just forming in New World.
I mean, just to get to New World requires you to have some serious Nakama.

In New World, its Alliances that are formed. Not crews.*

I think all these Dressrosa guys will become Alliance members of the what will later be known as the Straw Hat Alliance.

IIRC Lola's crew was from New World so technicaly, you can make a crew there.
About joining the crew on dressrosa, I think Rebecca will in the end be the new queen there, so she is out; Kin'emon & Momonosuke, well Roger pirates had Buggy so Momo is possible ... And for the past possibilities, for Vivi who really cares for her country, would by quite illogical to become a pirate, but she was really a SH candidate

 

[alelucas]

I would like to see a new crewman of other race (dwarf, fishman, giant).

But, Luffy said he would recruit 10 crewman. And he did do that a long time ago.

EAST BLUE
1st, Zoro
2nd, Nami
3rd, Usopp
4th, Merry [deceased]
5th, Sanji

GRAND LINE
6th, Chopper
7th, Robin
8th, Franky
9th, Sunny
10th, Brook

From now on I believe the new 'crewmen' will be only guests or allies. Think: Oda have already to resolve the personal 'dramas' and goals of 8 or 9 characters in more four or five hundred chapters. No room for new subplots. The New World Sagas are there to fulfil that 'ending' role.

 

[7pac]

He wanted 10 crewman at least, excluding himself.
He has 8.
There will be more nakamas 100%.
Besides jimbei is confirmed no?

 

[TheLuffySmile]

IIRC Lola's crew was from New World so technicaly, you can make a crew there.
About joining the crew on dressrosa, I think Rebecca will in the end be the new queen there, so she is out; Kin'emon & Momonosuke, well Roger pirates had Buggy so Momo is possible ... And for the past possibilities, for Vivi who really cares for her country, would by quite illogical to become a pirate, but she was really a SH candidate

Well Shanks and Buggy were apprentices, a lot older than Momonosuke is ^^

 

[yieps]

First and foremost, I hope no one joins anymore even Jinbe especially since Oda introduced alliances.

The dwarf princess could go on board.
- SH need a dwarf !!1!
- She seems to be disliked so there's potential that she's independent enough to go on a cruise.
- She has an attitude so she may be persuaded to become a pirate.
- Other dwarves won't part with their tribe and they don't share the traits of pirates.
- We need at least another woman on board because it adds more character diversity among the crew, not just cause female ...
- We don't need more beauties as long-term protagonists so no Rebecca or Violet please.
- We don't another fairly reasonable character like Robin or Jinbe
- I don't see Oda going dark again an killing Thunder Soldier so Rebecca should be able to live with him.
- Violet can't be part of the crew because she likes Sanji, rather if Sanji returns to Dressrosa it's actually more likely she'll get killed if that's still possible in OP.
- Even if Bellamy changed he still differs significantly from the SH. He's still far more aggressive and blood thirsty than of the SH.
- Kinemon has Momonosuke and we don't need another swordsman on the ship. Their reason to travel to Zou may be important as well.

However, for someone to join a back story is required. So chances for the dwarf princess are slim as it unlikely they would be a reason for her story to be told after her rescue.

I can imagine the Heart Pirates merging with the SH since Law doesn't really seem to have a huge ambition becoming PK - and I love Bepo - but I doubt Oda would do that.

 

[Ninomiya]

IIRC Lola's crew was from New World so technicaly, you can make a crew there.

I should have been more specific, she was born there.
For people who aren't born in the New World, we are yet to see someone leave their Blue Sea, or GrandLine Paradise to start a crew in New World.
If you reach the New World starting from somewhere else, then its almost 100% certain that you would already have a crew.

I would like to see a new crewman of other race (dwarf, fishman, giant).

But, Luffy said he would recruit 10 crewman. And he did do that a long time ago.

EAST BLUE
1st, Zoro
2nd, Nami
3rd, Usopp
4th, Merry [deceased]
5th, Sanji

Do you really think the Merry counts as one of his "10 Nakama?" lol its was a ship that they loved sure, but I really doubt that he counted the ship towards his 10 nakama.
Since in that same conversation with Zoro about having 10 nakama, he and Zoro discuss not having a ship in the sense that it was an item, and not as if a Ship is a Nakama.