The New Shichibukai Are...?

[Razh]

Re: One Piece 699 Discussion / 700 Predictions

It was just a thought. However, I don't think Luffy will settle for be a Yonkou.

It's not up to him. If he beats one of the emperors and conquers enough territory, he'll be called an emperor regardless of what he thinks. It's the same with all others. They are just pirates who have a lot of territory and great military strength and WG gave them nicknames. Even if it's not Luffy's goal to conquer territory, if he puts enough islands under his protection, like he plans to do with FI, he will inevitably be branded as an emperor, especially if he takes out one of them in the process.

I think there's a certain point after which you can't possibly be a Shichibukai, and Luffy probably crossed it when he punched a Tenryuubito. Everything after that is just overkill.

 

[Kaiten]

Re: One Piece 699 Discussion / 700 Predictions

He did not really humiliate the government, Crocodile´s criminal activities did that. There are 3 things a Shichibukai needs, fame, popularity and power. If Luffy had been powerful enough, the WG would have had no problems to depict him as hero who saved Alabasta and beat Crocodile, thus also giving him the other two. Him being a rookie or being a D. would have been no problem since they invited Ace in his rookie year. The fact that he is that weak and still beat an asset of the WG would have humiliated them if it was made public.

They were pretty mad http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v25/c233/17.html

It was just a thought. However, I don't think Luffy will settle for be a Yonkou.

Just because he becomes a Yonkou doesn't mean he has to stay a Yonkou. There's a long way to go before he becomes Pirate King. If he becomes a Yonkou in the meantime it just gets us out of that vicious cycle of a Pirate with 400million beri being treated like an underdog. Besides, the logical outcome of defeating a Yonkou is becoming one yourself. And as Razh said, it seems to be a title of acclaim, he won't have much say in the matter. By the end of this arc he should fulfill all known criteria. He has the Heart Pirates as allies, Jinbe and the Sun Pirates too. Maybe more, depending on how the saga unfolds. Neptune already has expressed desire to fly Luffy's Jolly Roger, eventually giving him some territory. He also could gain territory over the course of this saga.

 

[mattiaildivino]

just a question: the last shichibukai is the one who became shichibukai one year ago,the one who once cut Z's arm off. is it confirmed that he was imprisoned in level 6?

 

[Razh]

just a question: the last shichibukai is the one who became shichibukai one year ago,the one who once cut Z's arm off. is it confirmed that he was imprisoned in level 6?

I'm not sure. I read a lot about it and while there are people who claim they saw it or heard it from a legit source, I have yet to see a written evidence. I tend to believe that the guy being a level 6 prisonder is a good possibility. After all, the guy cut off an admiral's hand and killed everyone but the 2 of his crewmembers and than just disappeared from the scene until one year ago. So there's a good chance that he was captured back then and rebuilt his fame a little after he escaped from ID.

But until I see a translated line from Volume Z or something else that states so, it's not confirmed.

 

[mattiaildivino]

in Wikia,it just says he is the one who cut Z's arm,but had oda stated it,wikia should have typed at least a line to talk about that. Anyone knows something more?

 

[MiyamotoMusashi]

in Wikia,it just says he is the one who cut Z's arm,but had oda stated it,wikia should have typed at least a line to talk about that. Anyone knows something more?

It´s in the Volume 1000, the background story of Z. The guy was an Admiral, had a family which was killed (not by the pirate who cut his arm). He wanted to leave the Marines but was forced to stay as instructor and taught the pre-TS Admirals. He once cornered the pirate who cut his arm but the latter begged for his life, so he let him go. 9 years prior to the current storyline, that pirate cut off Z´s arm. 1 year prior to the current storyline, that pirate joined the Shichibukai, so Z finally left the Marines because of that.

 

[alisdfd]

It´s in the Volume 1000, the background story of Z. The guy was an Admiral, had a family which was killed (not by the pirate who cut his arm). He wanted to leave the Marines but was forced to stay as instructor and taught the pre-TS Admirals. He once cornered the pirate who cut his arm but the latter begged for his life, so he let him go. 9 years prior to the current storyline, that pirate cut off Z´s arm. 1 year prior to the current storyline, that pirate joined the Shichibukai, so Z finally left the Marines because of that.

nice info i think it is shiki
he was a level 6 prisoner
he fought sengoku and garp by himself thus i think he is the one who cut off z's arm

 

[suraj5898]

nice info i think it is shiki
he was a level 6 prisoner
he fought sengoku and garp by himself thus i think he is the one who cut off z's arm

i dont think he is shiki but some new character. when BB destroy level 6 lots of criminal run and 7th is one of them

 

[mattiaildivino]

It´s in the Volume 1000, the background story of Z. The guy was an Admiral, had a family which was killed (not by the pirate who cut his arm). He wanted to leave the Marines but was forced to stay as instructor and taught the pre-TS Admirals. He once cornered the pirate who cut his arm but the latter begged for his life, so he let him go. 9 years prior to the current storyline, that pirate cut off Z´s arm. 1 year prior to the current storyline, that pirate joined the Shichibukai, so Z finally left the Marines because of that.

thanks,but I already knew this . I was talking about whether someone had more infos concerning the fact he was in lv 6

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i dont think he is shiki but some new character. when BB destroy level 6 lots of criminal run and 7th is one of them

yeah,but where was it stated he was in level 6? Sengoju was told by the WG that the world had to know nothing of the escape,so if one of them had become a warlord,the world would realize that he has somehow escape,wouldn't it?

 

[MiyamotoMusashi]

thanks,but I already knew this . I was talking about whether someone had more infos concerning the fact he was in lv 6

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yeah,but where was it stated he was in level 6? Sengoju was told by the WG that the world had to know nothing of the escape,so if one of them had become a warlord,the world would realize that he has somehow escape,wouldn't it?

I just read your post without the context^^

 

[Marche]

I think that the seventh Warlord could be a former prisoner of the sixth level of Impel Down, infact some prisoners survived but have not entered in BB crew.
Another possibility is that it could me Marco, because even if there is the possibility that he and rest of the WB member entered in Shanks crew (I think this because when Shanks met WB he already ask that).
Another possibility is Moria, infact Hogback could have modified Moria’s body, or Moria trained himself, so that he lost weight and changed his appearance (but in the truth I think it is more likely that Moria will take Don Flamingo’s body).
The last possibility is Saboo, if he may have become a Warlord to spy the World Governements moves for Dragon, even if I don’t like it, I prefer Dragon uses Hancock for that role (If Ivan tell him about the relationship between Hancock and Rufy, he could says than doing that could benefit Rufy).

 

[EddyBob15]

This 7th Warlord might be even more powerful than Doflamingo, and if that's the case, it should be an epic fight for Luffy.

 

[BurnSchulz]

The seventh post time skip Shichibukai-Member

I found no thread especially for this question, and since it would be too Off-Topic in the Discussion and Predictions thread, i make my own thead for it.

Since we know 6 Shichibukai of the post time-skip Generation:

Spoiler

Kuma, Doflamingo, Mihawk, Buggy, Law and Hancock.
(I know, actually Doflamingo is out now, but my question is pointing to the moment when he was still in.)

Who do you think might be the mysterious seventh one which they just "talked about earlier"?

I would bet on Phoenix Marco.
Mostly because i think that he and the rest of the remaining White-Beard crew are at war with Blackbeard, which the Marine sure knows and for that they let them do without hunting them as they would hunt other ordinary Pirates. He is also well known for most of the pirates out there, what could be seen as one of the requirements to be a member of the shichibukai. And he has his animalish nickname which was part of every shichibukai of the former generation "Phoenix".
Thats my guess.

Or maybe its a whole new Character which has to be introduced yet, or one of the Supernovae?
What do you think, and why?


/edit: I am not sure how it is called "The seventh Shichibukai" or "The seventh Shichibukai-Member". Feel free to change the title if the way i did it is wrong.

 

[MiyamotoMusashi]

Re: The seventh post time skip Shichibukai-Member

This is a spoiler, so you read at your own account

Spoiler

The movie Z is pretty much like Strong World, the characters, their background stories and so forth are all canon but the happenings in the movie are not.
And this is Zephyr´s background story: Z became Admiral with 38 and married that year, 1 year later he got a son, another 3 years later his family was killed and he resigned from his position as Admiral. At one point in the 4 years he was an Admiral, Z caught a pirate who back then begged for his life. 23 years after his family was killed. so 9 years prior to the current storyline, the same pirate who once begged for his life cut off Z´s arm and slaughtered Z´s entire division besides Ain and Binz. 1 year prior to the current storyline that pirate became a Shichibukai which led Z to leave the Marines completely.
So basically, the new Shichibukai is someone who once begged for his life, then 9 years ago cut off Z´s arm and destroyed his entire division besides Ain and Binz and who became a Shichibukai one year ago.

Everything i wrote in the spoiler do not fit Marco at all, while the Supernova are either too young or were too weak at that point, so i go with a new character, maybe even the one who is called Jack.

 

[suraj5898]

Re: The seventh post time skip Shichibukai-Member

i also think one who cut Z's hand is 7th Shichibukai . he was on level 6 in ID when luffy and blackbeard attack ID

 

[BurnSchulz]

Re: The seventh post time skip Shichibukai-Member

What kind of informations were that? There is no Manga covering that story out yet, and the movie - i didnt see it anywere. Dont want to be illegal though.... and i dont know how far the spoiler rules of this forum go at spoilers like this so wtf?

 

[MiyamotoMusashi]

Re: The seventh post time skip Shichibukai-Member

What kind of informations were that? There is no Manga covering that story out yet, and the movie - i didnt see it anywere. Dont want to be illegal though.... and i dont know how far the spoiler rules of this forum go at spoilers like this so wtf?

Spoiler

It was released in a special volume, just like Volume 0 back then for Strong World. Both volumes entail information that are canon but both movies themselves are not. To tell you the truth, you don´t even need to see the movie or read the volume since that ominous pirate gets only mentioned in that capacity. He begged for his life 23 years ago, 9 years ago he cut the arm of the old ex-admiral Z and 1 year ago he became a Shichibukai. What his name is, where he comes from, how he looks and so forth are unknown.

One thing is for sure though, the 7th Shichibukai is definitely a man, confirmed in chapter 700 by Brannew.

 

[Razh]

Re: The seventh post time skip Shichibukai-Member

There's already a thread called The New Shichibukai Are...?

And it's not the first time Oda shows some background information in movie material that intertwines with manga later. I'm still hoping for a special chapter like chapter 0.

Just to add, the pirate has a devil fruit.

 

[BurnSchulz]

And where can i find this special Chapter? I really need to read it.
And sorry for obviously not seeing this thread here. I overlooked it somehow.. my bad.

 

[MiyamotoMusashi]

Re: The seventh post time skip Shichibukai-Member

There's already a thread called The New Shichibukai Are...?

And it's not the first time Oda shows some background information in movie material that intertwines with manga later. I'm still hoping for a special chapter like chapter 0.

Just to add, the pirate has a devil fruit.

Oh yeah, i forgot that. My bet is still on Jack.