The Next Shichibukai?

Next Shichibukai

  • Eustass Kidd

    Votes: 17 10.9%
  • Another Supernova

    Votes: 23 14.7%
  • A commander from Whitebeard

    Votes: 6 3.8%
  • Buggy

    Votes: 80 51.3%
  • An old character that we know

    Votes: 19 12.2%
  • Completely new character

    Votes: 63 40.4%

  • Total voters
    156

vagabond87

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I would risk my money(not to much of course:eyeroll) for saying that Hawkins became new warlord.
 

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All Shichibukai are criminals... that won't affect negatively the chances of Law being chosen... =P
 

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I don't think the rookies in general have what the WG currently would expect from a shichibukai. They want people with considerable strength and a strong name to back them up. The supernova might be quite famous in the first half of the grand line but their names won't scare anyone in the new world. The gorousei even mentioned they were going to take their time with that and choose people with strong names to back them up. Shiki would be a great choice for a shichibukai. Wonder if he is alive though. Even if he was, I doubt he would accept the position though. Lucci would still need to grow stronger to be a proper shichibukai. Above lucci not being strong enough, his name is completely unknown. I guess it is possible he can have a significant power boost over the timeskip though but that would only be the bare minimum.
the reason I see the supernovas as candidates, or rather the stronger ones is that they have some of the highest known bounties in the series. At the point they're at they are more than notorious enough AND they could be used to scare the shit out of other pirates

in terms of capability they could be up there after 2 years, certainly on the same level as moria, Ace and crocodile

Lucci is an unknown in a sense, but he's well known to the government and he had a lot of capability. Guy is the master of a martial art in the vein of jinbei and after 2 years he could have made a huge name for himself
 

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It would be funny if Buggy got a seat as Shichibukai, though it would be mostly humorous, cause he is obviously not at this level. He is damn weak, though his crew now is damn strong and can even challenge some big shots.

It would be really interesting to see some Supernovas joining Shichibukai, but I expect some new characters.:) Maybe even one or two famous pirates from Impel Down.:)
 

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It's usually not my style to revive a thread more than a month old, but since I'm a sucker for pirate lore, I feel that I should add a few pointers on who I think might be in league for future Shichibukai-dom. My vote goes out to Eustass Kidd, for a few reasons.

For starters, the pirates that inspired him were likely a Scotsman called William Kidd (for those of you with wikihunger, read more here), and Eustace the Black Monk, a Boulognian aristocrate turned mercenary (here). Like Eustass, William was appointed the nickname "Captain", owing to his ... enterprising nature, so to say. He eventually crossed the atlantic to the early Americas, where he privateered under the sanction of Richard Coote, the Earl of Bellemont and governor of a newly colonized and politically unstable New York. He engaged in several enterprises, including trafficing of exotic goods, and aiding in the construction of the Trinity Church that stands on the current day Wall Street, but what makes his case so special is that he was allegedly enlisted by the government to counter the spread of piracy around the remote reaches along the Cape and the eastern seas. He eventually went off the deep end when he started to attack British East India Trade Company ships, probably to sustain his expedition and his crew, and started to generally and indescriinately plunder and murder to stave off mutiny in the crew, which consisted largely of convicted criminals. That ruthlessness sound like anyone familiar?

Anyway, during his life of either willful or forced piracy he ended up accused of a great many murders, and the ensconcing of a substantial treasure somewhere in the Plymouth region. He was put on court of last resort back in the House of Lords in London, convicted of piracy, and subsequently hanged and strung up to dry along the Thames shipping lane as an example for other outlaws and aspiring pirates.

Eustace had a similar predilection for servitude to the British crown, and fought for king John of England in the battles of Normandy and Aquitaine in the early 13th century, and then switched sides to the French to rampage through the British ranks in the battle of Dover.

If Eustass's character is greatly inspired by these pirates (well, not in his looks, that much is certain), then we might actually see him as a Shichibukai one day.
 
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You know, the theory that Buggy might become a Shichibukai might be more valid than some think. Remember that Buggy received a message from the World Government by a messenger bat, and when Jinbe became one, he received the invite from a bat? I think Oda was trying to give us a clue.
 

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I think Buggy is a certain. That makes
Do FLamingo
Hawkeye
Kuma
Hancock
Buggy
as assured shichibukais.

I doubt if Kuma would still be given the title. He wasnt active for over 2 years and is practically a pacifista with his memory erased. You might have some other pirate take that role.

I think Eustass Kid and Drake might be the other 2. These names were mentioned after the time skip by random bar guys makes me think they have taken this role.

also, the 4th yonkou could be black beard.

---------- Post added at 12:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:42 AM ----------

The problem with Kidd becoming a shichibukai is that he has strong nakama. Shichbukai's crew usually dismember themselves like we saw in jinbeis case.
 

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buggy is a lock,, so that makes 5. The Shichibukai all have incredible reputations, so no doubt the last 2 will be infamous as well. No way one of the Supernova becomes one, they are not famous enough and have not put in enough work. Plus they are all still tryin to make there name in the New World.

MY bet is that they picked 2 level 6 prisoners to become shichibukai.
 

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As said by chess4, Buggy is a lock.

For the other shishibukai, one of the rookies from two years ago is possible.
I bet on Scratchmen Apoo for several reasons:
- Among the rookies, he was clearly one of the top ones
- He can leave his useless crew anytime
- He clearly doesn't want to put himself in trouble ... but he is still a pirate who want to discover the world. Shishibukai is the perfect position for him.
- His ability is good enough for him to be a powerhouse after a two years timeskip
 

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I don´t think any of the supernova became shichibukai during the timeskip. The world government was going to take their time deciding but how long would they be willing to wait? The fact of the matter is that before the timeskip the supernova were merely the best among rookies. However luffy, being the golden rookie so to speak, showed us during the war just how absurd the difference between a rookie and a real new world pirate was. Luffy went to the war and the only reason he came out of that alive was because he was protected by every person there at some point. He showed his level was, at best, that of fodder. The admirals made repeated mentions of how luffy simply was not nearly strong enough to be in the front lines of that war. Now, if the most powerful of the rookies was cannon fodder next to the actually strong people, what about the rest of the supernova? Pretty much the same situation or worst.

Now, obviously there was a timeskip but would the world government be willing to wait 2 full years selecting a shichibukai out of the rookies when there should obviously be plenty of fully matured new world pirates who are already feared? Just WB and his affiliated crews should have had around 100 actually strong pirates... If we consider crews not affiliated to a yonko, yonko crewmembers and crews affiliated to a yonko then we should pretty much a decent number of people with actual strength to choose from. Even if the world government was willing to take their time choosing, I doubt they would really wait that long until the rookies developed actual strength. The seas must have been pretty unstable for a decent while to say the least, I doubt they would have waited more than a few months to choose 2 people which in turn is not nearly enough time for the rookies to develop actual strength.
 

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The thing is that Crocodile & Boa were rookies when they were appointed as shishibukai (explaining their low bounties).
Worst, Moria was basically a new world dropout.

And I don't see a pirate under protection of a yonkou accepting a role as shishibukai. He is being protected by a yonkou, He gain nothing by joining forces with the WG
 
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Being a shichibukai removes the bounty a pirate has. Even a pirate affiliated to a yonko would see some appeal to the chance of being reinserted into society IMO.

Saying moria was a droppout is a bit of an extreme. Its not like he could not sail the oceans or he got defeated by some random guy, he got taken out by a yonko. Even then, when he actually fought luffy one on one luffy barely got a hit on him. Not sure if crocodile was a rookie per say when he got offered the position.... He might as well have been offered the position before his rookie bounty was changed. As for boa, who knows how strong she actually was back in the day. She probably was well above a rookie considering haki is a given that early. Even now her strength is a bit of a mistery, heck I would still think she is strong enough to school luffy.
 

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Elder nyon said Boa's case was because Boa showed she was very powerful on her first raid, and more important the Kuja's name was pretty infamous and strong enough to give fear to others pirates! So even if Boa was a rookie, the Kuja name had it's appeal...

And considering Moria and Crocodile were present at Roger's execution, they weren't rookies! They were in the NW, and had good power, Moria was a bit weak i agree but Crocodile had a logia fruit in his favor too... They were above average...
 
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Roger's execution took place in rogue town, which is actually located just before the grand line, not in the new world. Roger was specifically taken to the least dangerous of all oceans.

As for moria, I do think we did not get to see everything he had to offer back in the thriller bark arc. The way I see it, the ark was actually set up so that we would not actually see him fight properly so to speak. The only bit we actually saw him fight was when he fought luffy and he did kinda schooled luffy... Other than that we only saw him get beat up by nightmare luffy and eating 1000 shadows which apparently made him temporarily insane and hurt him. When it did come to it, his attacks were strong and large enough to deal with little oz at least, which is not something we ever saw him use against the strawhats.
 

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I wasn't clear. I mean that if they started being pirates more than 20 year ago, when Roger was being executed, then in present days it is obvious they were not rookies.... And it was stated they know NW, and they are Shichibukais so it wouldn't be weird to think they have a good level (above average as i said) even in NW.
 

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The only bit we actually saw him fight was when he fought luffy and he did kinda schooled luffy... .

No and just no. Running and running, that's all what Moria did before using Oz. If you're talking about that shadow bat technique that Moria used, no comment. Luffy didn't even use gear second against him at first, Luffy could've and would've kicked Moria's ass if he was serious at first. Moria didn't show us any physical nor fighting techniques that are worth calling him " Shichibukai ", maybe when he was younger, he was stronger, but his laziness made him weak, that much is clear.
 

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Moria was quite literally just sitting there and luffy barely got a hit on him. Granted luffy did not use gear two but it was still quite clear moria was not even trying.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v48/c463/4.html

Considering that moria actually went up against a yonko, how he trashed oz with a lone hit during the war and that jinbe's punch did not actually take him out as he was seen fighting soon after that (lets face it, jinbe's punch should be overwhelmingly superior to luffy's at that point, specially if you consider the fishman karate bit) I would think that luffy was quite far away from moria's level and had moria actually been serious in the fight luffy would have been in quite a bit of trouble. Moria might just not be strong enough to be a shichibukai but that does not mean a rookie would stand much of a chance against him.
 

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Moria was quite literally just sitting there and luffy barely got a hit on him. Granted luffy did not use gear two but it was still quite clear moria was not even trying.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v48/c463/4.html

Considering that moria actually went up against a yonko, how he trashed oz with a lone hit during the war and that jinbe's punch did not actually take him out as he was seen fighting soon after that (lets face it, jinbe's punch should be overwhelmingly superior to luffy's at that point, specially if you consider the fishman karate bit) I would think that luffy was quite far away from moria's level and had moria actually been serious in the fight luffy would have been in quite a bit of trouble. Moria might just not be strong enough to be a shichibukai but that does not mean a rookie would stand much of a chance against him.
I still believe that Luffy would've defeated him.
He just didn't show anything that may hint that he's strong enough to bring down Luffy using Gear Second. I'm not saying that Moria is fodder, but Luffy at that point should be able to beat him. And erm, Moria trashed Oz ? Yeah sure, after getting his leg cut by Dolfamingo, and receiving a bomb from Kuma...

And Luffy himself wasn't trying there, a Gomu Gomu No Pistol isn't the proof that Luffy was serious there.
 

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I don't think he was lazy...He was rather frustrated in the same way that Don Krieg.

Both had similar situations except that Moria's Nakama completely died in the hands of Kaidou.
 

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I don't think he was lazy...He was rather frustrated in the same way that Don Krieg.

Both had similar situations except that Moria's Nakama completely died in the hands of Kaidou.
We could say that Crocodile was frustrated too (he obviously got his ass kicked by WB), but he didn't seem to be like Moria. At least he didn't say " Make me Pirate King "

Luffy was frustrated too, did he become like Moria ? No. That's just an excuse. Every single pirate who's aiming for the top must pass through hell for that.
 
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