Re: sabo is alive !!
Who could all the wounds have come from?
http://www.mangareader.net/103-52556-14/one-piece/chapter-587.html
How about the many people Dragon picked up from a burning wasteland? I can extrapolate more evidence than there is around Sabo that the wounded are indeed the rescued survivors of the fire.
Ok. Let‘s go through the time line again. This scene is 2 days before the World Nobles arrive:
http://www.mangareader.net/103-52556-15/one-piece/chapter-587.html
All the wounded people that might have been there would have been treated on the same night.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-54487-7/one-piece/chapter-589.html
Here is the page in question, Dragon has negotiated supplies from an island potentially some distance from Luffy's hometown: remember, Luffy met Zoro, not in Zoro's dojo, but a distance away.
Yes Zoro’s hometown is probably an island in some distance away from Goa kingdom but Dragon has not negotiated anything. He asked how the provisions are and one of the rebels told him that the dojo gave them some. In fact while the rebels did this he himself was somewhere else.
If you're suggesting that Sabo or Bluejam suddenly "appeared" potentially hundreds of miles away, and at the same time they outran a fully-crewed ship by simply drifting along ocean currents then that's a huge plot hole. Dragon's ship had taken on more than it could attend to, surely a score of people were rescued and it's doubtful that Dragon's ship just happened to have enough of One Piece's magical bandages to care for all of them.
No I’m suggesting that after the rebels saved the people from the fire they sailed to Zoro’s island to stock provisions for the travel to Bartigo while Dragon stayed on the Island to watch the arrival of the world noble. Why should he do that? Well he is on war with them and knowing your enemy is always good or maybe just to hate them even more. While he watched the arrival he saw Sabo being shot and saved him from drowning. After that he went to Zoro’s hometown where they saw somebody with terrible wounds which got treated immediately.
This is supported by the Manga because a) He made Ivankov wait a long time and b) someone has very bad wounds.
The reason why this thread was created is because in the anime Dragon says explicit that he went to watch the world noble’s arrival. But like I said Anime doesn’t prove anything. They might have Information from Oda or they might have assumed the same as me because it is the most logical.
The line about "wounds" is still somewhat odd, I will admit, but I also get told that Dragon showed no wounds - and I can even give you a debate about how not seeing wounds is not the same as there being no wounds. Let's look at the large amount of Dragon's body we see: well half his face looks fine = no wounds.
From pretty much anyone who is wounded heavily or was in a fight you can see signs in their faces but this isn’t even the point. The point is why does Oda not show him wounded when he is wounded, why should he write a page that starts with the sentence: “Let us take a brief step
back in time to the
evening of
the day the Tenryuubito ship
arrived in the Goa Kingdom.”? Why should Ivankov say he is late? Why even make such a page?
Anyway, I'm against a Sabo return, it does nothing for me from a story perspective and brings a few past occasions into question. Sorry to be a downer.
From a story writing perspective his death or better his being there in the flashback has absolute no meaning at all. Just think about it, what would have changed if he wasn’t there? Would Ace and Luffy become Brothers? Maybe not that fast but they would have defiantly become brothers because Luffy would never have given up trying to become friends. Would he always have tried to protect Luffy even without the letter of Sabo? Yes because that is his main personality trait which in the end got him killed. Would Luffy have trained as much as he did? Yes of course because his main goal is and was to become Pirate King and his motivation to become stronger than Ace would also have helped. The Flashback was not only to explain how Luffy and Ace become Brothers but one very important purpose was to give characterization to Sabo.
You could have also written the same sentence after Bon Clay fought with Hina in Alabasta. For example:” Anyway, I'm against a Bon Clay return, it does nothing for me from a story perspective”
He did play a big role. You could have said the same about Hachi, Mr3, Crocodile and I’m sure about many others. The point is that Oda doesn’t let characters die if he has plans for them and a character who met Dragon and whishes Freedom more than anything, who could be in the revolution Army has surely a big role to play even when you don’t see his role yet.
