The strongest marine

[neild]

in the last page of chapter 581, don flamingo is ordered to eliminate moria. the order came from someone/a group with higher rank than sengoku, obviously stronger than don flamingo, or the three admiral as well. what kind of power does this marine posses? or who is stronger/have higher rank than sengoku?i believe this marine is the man behind the curtain for the void century accident, also the one who is responsible for ohara incident. are they those 5 people group [that holds sword] i'm talking about? i dont know.what do u guys think? if anyone can post pic, that would be nice

in other related noted, i think the rank for strong marine is something like this:
1. sengoku
2. akainu
3. kizaru
4. ao kiji
5. smoker
6. garp
7. coby
8. tashigi
9. hemelpo

and my final question about the marine. they seemed so strong, will they be luffy's final opponent? [i mean the strongest marine vs luffy, or luffy's pirates vs world government/marineford]

 

[Marche]

Now I think:
1) Aokiji (I think than that was mentioned by the Gorosei).
2) Sengoku or Garp (I think than they are on the same level).
3) Akainu.
4) Kizaru.

But I think than Garp when he was younger was the best, and I also think than (also if we didn't knew) than he is the only marine who has King's haki.

 

[undertoe]

1. Jango
2. Fullbody
3. (Former) Axe-hand Morgan

 

[Spaceman-Spiff]

in the last page of chapter 581, don flamingo is ordered to eliminate moria. the order came from someone/a group with higher rank than sengoku, obviously stronger than don flamingo, or the three admiral as well. what kind of power does this marine posses? or who is stronger/have higher rank than sengoku?i believe this marine is the man behind the curtain for the void century accident, also the one who is responsible for ohara incident. are they those 5 people group [that holds sword] i'm talking about? i dont know.what do u guys think? if anyone can post pic, that would be nice

It's safe to assume the order came from the Gorosei (World government)

 

[Fox666]

1) Aokiji (I think than that was mentioned by the Gorosei).

That was a mistranslation. The other Admirals have been called the same way. The translator them used later something like "mighties assault force"

 

[Poneglyph420]

in the last page of chapter 581, don flamingo is ordered to eliminate moria. the order came from someone/a group with higher rank than sengoku, obviously stronger than don flamingo, or the three admiral as well. what kind of power does this marine posses? or who is stronger/have higher rank than sengoku?i believe this marine is the man behind the curtain for the void century accident, also the one who is responsible for ohara incident. are they those 5 people group [that holds sword] i'm talking about? i dont know.what do u guys think? if anyone can post pic, that would be nice

in other related noted, i think the rank for strong marine is something like this:
1. sengoku
2. akainu
3. kizaru
4. ao kiji
5. smoker
6. garp
7. coby
8. tashigi
9. hemelpo

and my final question about the marine. they seemed so strong, will they be luffy's final opponent? [i mean the strongest marine vs luffy, or luffy's pirates vs world government/marineford]

I'm not really sure Doflamingo has lifted a finger (See what I did there.. hee hee ) But sure seems like the directive to eliminate Moria is coming from beyond the hierarchy of the Marines. I'd say the Gorousei gave the order.. And otherwise it could be Vegapunk.. (I'm getting a sense he might not be a nice guy) But it's clearly coming from beyond the strata of the Marines...
Since Sengoku's the Boss afterall...

And interesting Marine Rankings....

IMO.. Garp prolly is still the strongest, just too much of a loose cannon..
I'm not sure how it's so easy to rank marines.... So many we haven't seen do much of anything, and even more we haven't seen pushed to their limit...

There's your GOROUSEI Pic... 5 people group.... Thanks for that.

 

[modoki]

garp made a quote he has been fighting pirates since luffy was born.
and during that time even aokiji looked up to him.

No doubt garp is probably #1

 

[NoLimit89]

Garp > ALL

He turned down the admiral position when Sengoku was an admiral.

 

[bittman]

1. Three Admirals
2. Garp
3. Sengoku
4. Insert Vice Admirals and Sentomaru here
5. Smoker

Something like that. You'll see I put admirals above Garp and Sengoku, of course both Garp and Sengoku are seriously still more reputation than display. But look at the admirals this way:

Akainu - suffered two direct earthquakes to his body, one of which split Marineford in two. He still got up a minute later and proceeded to mop the floor with everything in his path. In the direct battles with Whitebeard, they appeared very close to equal, and you could argue the most damage done to WB was from Akainu.

Kizaru - one of two people in this war who received no real damage (other being Doflaming) despite fighting many high class enemies. Never seen taking anything seriously, and fires GODDAM LASER BEAMS!

Aokoji - Freezes the sea. Freezes you. If you get frozen, almost then a guarenteed loss. Jozu fought Aokoji, made him bleed from the mouth a little, but then was instantly K.O'ed and lost an arm. Possibly one of the worst people to battle against if the battle drags on.

All ridiculously powerful, I couldn't tell you who is above who honestly. (though Aokoji feels like he just loses out to the other two). That and I believe Sengoku and Garp are well past their prime despite being legends in their own right, they are the older age.

 

[kangclaw]

The marines work for the WG. The WG have many organizations working for them, one of them is Marines, another is the Impel Down and its forces, another is the CP9. The Shichibukai only takes orders from the Gorousei. The Gorousei are the leaders of the WG, and I think they decided they wanted Moria gone.

In the Marines in terms of strength are:
1) Garp:
I am guessing he is the strongest because he is Dragon's father and Luffy's grandfather. Yes, he is a loose cannon but that also indicates his strength that the Marines allow him to be.

2) Sengoku:
other than Garp, Sengoku is by far the strongest. Garp and Sengoku were the closest people guarding Ace on the platform. The most important position.The war was a success for the Marines: they were able to kill WB and Ace, and the person in charge of the Operation was Sengoku and for him it was a success.

3) The Three Admirals are the next strongest. No need for explanation on this.

4) The Vice Admirals and also Sentomaru.

 

[Uriel]

You know, bittman said exactly what I was thinking. In particular, Kizaru is the one that scares me the most because his speed. Aikanu is powerful, but magma has a long list of weakness to be used against.

 

[neild]

now that i have remembered some of the marines told in one piece, here is my revised rank of strength, with the name mentioned on the top being the strongest, while the one mentioned at the bottom is the weakest:
gorosei [all 5 members are [presumably have the same power]
sengoku
akainu
kizaru
ao kiji
smoker
garp
coby [after he reaches his full potential....if not he will rank below the vice admirals]
tashigi
Vice Admirals
hemelpo
Axe-hand Morgan
Jango
Fullbody



i think the idea of sengokus being weaker than 3 admirals is hard to accept, being a boss means he is stronger or smarter than vice admirals, or else how would he control those 3 strong beasts??how can the admirals respect them or even listen what sengoku has to say? anyway look how easy he single-handily destroy the blackbread pirates, in one punch,making all of them bleed blood. if luffy can reach a level like that, he can defeat [in my pre-assumed theory that says blackbeard is luffy's final enemy] blackbeard and HIS WHOLE CREW alone...yup..
maybe the power of 3 admirals are strong, but there is a reason sengoku is ranked differently than those 3, if not, he will just be the 4th admiral,the reason?he is stronger.period

now for the 3 admirals power, i will have to say akainu is the strongest, because he is always drawn in the center of three admirals, while they were standing together.and akainu will defineltly rule aokiji with lava vs ice power.ice will melt.i dunno about light vs lava...but the lava itself is a very strong power.it is the material that helped make our continents shaped like nowadays, make mountains, and others.since the core is strong, i will say akainu is strong either. unless kizaru's light is sourced from the sun, i will pick akainu as the strongest for now.so akainu>kizaru>aokiji



who is sentomaru???
i think gorosei doesnt have fighting power, they are oracles.the five of them combine their power together to make predictions and just have higher ranks to help predict things for marine.
but if gorosei can fight, i think maybe the first person from the left is the strongest [from the pic above]

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revised rank of strength after remembering 2 additional marines character, with the name mentioned on the top being the strongest, while the one mentioned at the bottom is the weakest:
gorosei [all 5 members are [presumably have the same power]
sengoku
akainu
kizaru
ao kiji
smoker
garp
Sentomaru
coby [after he reaches his full potential....if not he will rank below the vice admirals]
tashigi
Vice Admirals
Tenryuubito
hemelpo
Axe-hand Morgan
Jango
Fullbody

 

[Roarchu]

Young Garp would beat all I think. Even young Sengoku, because even if they're equal in power, I think Garp has kinda like a Luffy no-lose attitude, that would be the difference

The admirals are insanely powerful. But I don't think we know enough about how Haki can be used to fight to say they're the strongest.

let's have a poll

I'll try to list the characters that could be the strongest

Sengoku
Garp
Akainu
Aokiji
Kizaru
Sentomaru (he's not really a marine tho, is he? Vegapunk works for the WG, not the marines)
Smoker (future prime)
Coby (future prime)
Vegapunk (I guess we count anyone in the WG, it could be that punk is strong)
Magellan (wait, he's not a marine either. oh well)

I don't think anyone else could be in the list....maybe i forgot someone, but make a poll plz

 

[chess4]

this question is kinda hard to answer since we havent seen most of the VA in action yet, but the top fighters are as followed.

garp and sengoku. they are cut from the same cloth as rogers and WB. they get the most respect and the no doubt the strongest bottom line.


next you have the 3 admirals- its hard yo put one above the other. they all have strengths and weaknesses, but akainu is more cut throat than the others.

we have only seen a couple of VA in action, and only for snippet. im sure one of them is next but i will have to reserve judgement until i see more of them.



outside of the groups i just named, its a toss up between smoker and magellan

 

[Kaiser Will]

It´s definitely Garp and Sengoku.
I mean they fought Roger and WB at their prime!

Then come the 3 Admirals.
If you wanna know in what base I made this assumption of strength click here.

 

[Bugzee]

For me:

1. Garp (He was the only ONE who cornered Roger on several occasions not Sengoku.)
2. Sengoku
3. The Admirals (A. Akainu, B. Kizaru, C. Aokiji)

 

[neild]

ya but i think garp is too old now, he is weakened by age.sengoku seems fresh as ever

 

[bittman]

Few people saying Garp and Sengoku, and I don't doubt they're not impressive in feats and what we've seen so far. I mean, Garp is known to have chased Roger all over (and you don't run from someone you can easily defeat), and Sengoku is respected by Whitebeard for his strength and experience. Garp has been shown to be easily beyond Luffy, but pulled his punches, and Sengoku blasted the entire BB crew with one attack.

BUT: They are the last generation. If there's anything the WB war told me, it's that they are remnants of a world gone. This kind of gets into how I interpreted WB's strength as, though the "strongest man in the world", I believed him to be weaker than all the admirals individually, but fortunately was backed by a strong crew.

Akainu was the only admiral we really got a "GREAT" display of in the war, and he was WB's level without a doubt.

But now that I've typed all this about "the last generation", logistically speaking the 3 admirals are most likely the last generation, Garp and Sengoku are two generations ago and people like Smoker and Coby are the current generation.

Japanese mangas typically hit a point somewhere in the story where a line comes out like "Each new generation will surpass the last", and if this is to be the case then the 3 admirals should have already surpassed the last, whilst the current generation is climbing up towards them.

On the poll: "Who will be the strongest marine?" is a bit of a strange question. I mean, "will be" would most likely point to Smoker or Coby, because by the time they're strong Sengoku and Garp will be on IV drips. If we're talking "in their prime", then it's impossible to compare.

Nevertheless I voted Akainu. He has been the most impressive this far in my eyes, but then again I'm comparing him to Garp and Sengoku (who attacked twice each in total), Kizaru (who jokes about everything) and Aokoji (who I can't pick at all. One second he's been injured by Jozu, next second he instantly K.O's him).

Gorousei will not be strong. They're politicians, or "kings"/royalty. Like rating the Tenryuubito as strong, and we know that almost anyone that can fight is better than them.

 

[Kaiser Will]

For me:

1. Garp (He was the only ONE who cornered Roger on several occasions not Sengoku.)
2. Sengoku
3. The Admirals (A. Akainu, B. Kizaru, C. Aokiji)

You seem to misunderstood what I said.
Sengoku was an Admiral at WB and Roger era and it´s only logical that they maybe have fought at least once otherwise in the talk between Shanks and WB, he wouldn't have acknowlegde Sengoku strength.
I know that's this can't be taken as parameter but Sengoku and Garp fought Leo and they handle him pretty well, taking this fact based on the Edd War, if that storm didn't happen, the battle outcame would be completely diferent. But, again, this is just an assumption of my thoughts.

Besides that the Gorusei isn't part of the Marine Corps in the OP world.
In fact they control them, just see the last chapter (581) for understand that.

 

[undertoe]

@Bittman: They may be of the last generation, but even Rayleigh was able to fight Kizaru to a standstill, and he was only Roger's first-mate. Garp is presumably even stronger than Rayleigh, since he fought on near-equal ground with Roger. There's a good chance he's stronger than Akainu.