The Three Great Powers!!!

[mugen]

yeah so...someone explain to me ...why they have yet to find a replacement...shichibukai doe mean seven seas...right and currently there are only 6..
so isn't the balance off still?

 

[Impel Down]

Yeah, the balance is still screwed, especially since EL is gone now too.

 

[mugen]

so uumm...
is it possible that Shanks or some one else or just old age might end Whitebeard's time?
I mean he seems the closest one to die...kinda very foreshadowed....

 

[Impel Down]

Well, someone will probably kill WB, sure. A huge Yonkou like him has to go down at the series's climax to show that finding One Piece isn't bullshit.

 

[Phenomenol]

it will be so much cooler if Shanks just ends Whitebeards era
meaning Ace is gonna lead his own crew
but then gain...
I wonder even if Ace were to beat BB...
doesn't he still have to deal with the other BB pirates?

LOL! Slow your roll........

Whitebeard is the "most powerful pirate in the world," he ain't going to die without Oda dispalying/showing why he is the strongest. For all we know Shanks may be an example of why whitebeard is the most powerful.

BTW, if whitebeard goes down Marco would lead his crew.

 

[mugen]

yeah but why would they still be named the whitebeards ...
and it would only be cool for former apprentice to defeat his captains enemy :

 

[OP_overlord]

i dont know the WB crew might stick together or they would just seperate and each division captin would comand the division that they have right now

 

[Anti-panda]

Luffy quickly is becoming a great threat to the world govt. and it's power and balance of powers... if he keeps it up .. his bounty will skyrocket... taking down a shinchibukai and enis lobby then ... well if he takes down 1 or more shinchibukai or a vice admiral .. well he'll get a huge increase as he shows himself as more of a threat to the status quo.

 

[Impel Down]

well, a vice-admiral at his level is no big deal. But, with the way he keeps screwing up the Powers, would his bounty change if he takes down a Yonkou? That would show how powerful he is, and it would kinda mess up the power balance, even if it may help the WG.

 

[Anti-panda]

well, a vice-admiral at his level is no big deal. But, with the way he keeps screwing up the Powers, would his bounty change if he takes down a Yonkou? That would show how powerful he is, and it would kinda mess up the power balance, even if it may help the WG.

I don't think that luffys at the lvl where he could take down a Yonkou .. Yet...!

But I do think the WG wouldn't like the fact that he took down a yonkou.. they seem content with the balance and the way things are. Taking down a yonkou would disrupt the delicate balance that keeps the New world fuctioning and stable...
So basically any diruption in the balance much like throwing a pebble into a pond .. the ripples and effect disrupt the entire surface.
You know why it doesn't matter if you throw a pebble into the sea...? Because it's already churning and in turmoil .. so it doesn't matter since it's not at peace in the first place.

Profound huh??
Maybe I should get a job as a motivational speaker....
Nah .. I'm to demented I'd abuse my power too much.. and then well... when that happens you stop being a motivational speaker and start being a cult leader.

Remember kids Don't drink the koolaid!

 

[OP_overlord]

but .... but i love the KOOLAID (and the glass bast*rd that advertises it - Dane Cook)

and that was very profound but the WG would love luufy to take down a yonkou it would set the equation equal again

the World Gov lost enis lobby and the CP9
there is one less shichibukai
but the yonkou are still unchanged by the power struggle (except the whole ace - BB thing)

so luffy needs to beat an emporor to make the three great powers equal in fighting power again cause like i said the yonkou copuld rock the WG and shichibukia if they joined together (highly unlikely)

it is also highly unlikely that luffy could beat a yonkou even the weakest one he cant even take his grampa and most of the other vice-admirals as show by aokiji rocking him so easily

 

[weixiaobao]

i dunno if this had already mention but beside WB and redhair... the other two yonkou may fight against each others for territory.. they could have competition against WB and red hair too

an all out battle between them could tip the balance again

 

[Impel Down]

A complete Yonkou fight could be odd. It would just be like a Buster Call in one little area, with all the ships just firing like crazy and WB, Kaidoh, and Shanks hammering each other for hours.

 

[weixiaobao]

Kaidoh???? Between the yonkou themselves there are ambition of being better than the others, thrive to be the Pirate King. so maybe their common enemy is the WG right now but one day, they would kill each others if have to...

 

[Impel Down]

Gold Roger and Whitebeard fought each other, apparently, so it's obvious that the Yonkou can fight amonst themselves too. Sure, the MHQ and the WG are their enemies, but that doesn't make them automatically allies either.

 

[IgnorantSage]

Question: How important are the Shichibukai? As far as I have seen so far, they aren't really that useful. Sure, they can be used to scare off small-time pirates but they have not actually proven anything yet. The admirals and probably most of the vice-admirals are more powerful than them.

Also, seeing as these Shichibukai are not trustworthy, it would seem to be a bad idea to harbor them. We have already seen three (four if you consider Blackbeard) who have different plans than those of the WG - Crocodile, GM, and Doflamingo. So why does the government still approve of them. I'm pretty sure if things get rough between the three world powers, the Shichibukai ain't gonna stand by the WG's side, rather they would act for themselves.

 

[weixiaobao]

Question: How important are the Shichibukai? As far as I have seen so far, they aren't really that useful. Sure, they can be used to scare off small-time pirates but they have not actually proven anything yet. The admirals and probably most of the vice-admirals are more powerful than them.

i am not so sure about most of vice admirals... and rankings like bounties sometimes do not reflect on strength... Crocodile a Logia fruit user that changed the weathers, while Mihawk who could slashed down an entire fleets of Don Krieg, and Gecko who grathering shadows of the strongest... They are not at all weak...

Also, seeing as these Shichibukai are not trustworthy, it would seem to be a bad idea to harbor them. We have already seen three (four if you consider Blackbeard) who have different plans than those of the WG - Crocodile, GM, and Doflamingo. So why does the government still approve of them. I'm pretty sure if things get rough between the three world powers, the Shichibukai ain't gonna stand by the WG's side, rather they would act for themselves.

Keep your friends close, your enemies closer.. besides if WG outright declare war on them it would give itself (WG) more trouble...

*the above are no more than just hypothesis... and all could be not true... all depend on Oda*

 

[Impel Down]

How is Doflamingo's plan different from the WG's? Don't they let Shichibukai attack countries and pirates, as long as they give 10% of their loot to the WG? And it's not like the WG knew/know what Crocodile and Moria are up to. I mean, when they found out that Crocodile was trying to take over the world, they arrested him and kicked him out of the Shichibukai, right?

 

[hollowfied]

Three Powers

So I still don't really understand how the 3 powers balance each other.

We know that the Shichibukai members are all powerful, and the Yonkou are the 4 strongest pirates in the entire world. However, we don't know how many powerful marines there are, or what other forces the World Government have up their sleeves (like the CP9).

Also, the power of each Shichibukai member seems to vary greatly. I mean, Crocodile..seriously he wasn't really very powerful. He was powerful in the sense that he was perhaps in the top 5 percent of the total pirate population in terms of power..but there are ALOT of pirates and ALOT of guys. I don't understand the criteria for choosing the Shichibukai.

Another problem is whether or not the Shichibukai are under the World Government. If they are, then it'd be the two powers balancing each other out..the Shichibukai and Marines balancing the Yonkou.

And we don't know how long this system has been in place. Is Shanks/Whitebeard the original Yonkou? And is Crocodile/Doflamingo/Mihawk the original Shichibukai?

This system doesn't take into account the Revolutionaries either, or powerful pirates who aren't Yonkou or Shichibukai. Or powerful people who aren't pirates..like bounty hunters or mercenaries?

Also, about each kingdom who is a member of the World Government. How much power does each king / prime minister actually have? We havn't actually seen any national army except for Arabasta's.

So yeah..Oda has a lot to explain So looking forward to the answers ^_^
<3 One Piece

 

[noonethere]

Re: Three Powers

Maybe this system has been installed when Gold D. Roger was defeated. He could have been captured by Marines allied with some pirates(original shichibukai) after another fight with WB(yonkou) ending with a draw.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/105/08/
Near the end of grand line, you will see that the 7 paths converges to form only 4 paths. Maybe each yonkou have control on one path and prevent other pirates from going any further.(in this way unwillingly helping the WG to control pirates which is the main purpose of marine and shichibukai). If a new pirate defeats a yonkou, the pirate takes over the defeated yonkou territory and is given the title of yonkou.