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Who is the mole?

  • Cheadle the Dog

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mizaistom the Ox

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Kanzai the Tiger

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Piyon the Rabbit

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Geru the Snake

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Botobai the Dragon

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Saiyu the Monkey

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Saccho the Horse

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Ginta the Sheep

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cluck the Chicken

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • There is no mole

    Votes: 6 27.3%

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I tried to guess nen type and hatsu of all Zodiacs even if i know it's near impossible.

I used the personality type of Soushu Hen that i found on another thread of this forum.

Translation:
Kyoukakei (Enhancement/Reinforcement)
The defining personality traits of enhancers are their simplicity and earnestness. Most of them don't lie and don't hide anything. Their words and actions are often controlled by their feelings. They're usually incredibly selfish and persistent in pursuing their way.

Henkakei (Transmutation/Transformation)
Me and Killua are the same type, we're both whimsical liars. Transmutors possess a unique outlook, that's why, from other people's viewpoint, among transmutors there are a lot of those who are considered tricksters or weirdos. We rarely reveal our true intentions.

Gugenkakei (Conjuration/Materialization)
The one word to characterize conjurers' presonality is 'high strung'. They're very careful and guarded, to the point of being excessively cautious. Since they're very observant, they rarely fall into traps. Being able to calmly analyze things is also conjurers' forte.

Houshutsukei (Emission)
The defining personality traits of emitters are short temper and crudeness. A lot of them are easily angered and hot blooded. They're similar to enhancers in that they're impulsive, but the difference is probably in that, unlike enhancers, they tend to forget and calm down just as easily.

Sousakei (Manipulation)
This's Illumi's type. Manipulators like doing things at their own pace and tend to be argumentative. They find arguments for everything and have a tendency to wish to keep their family or lovers restrained. On the other hand, when it comes to pursuing their own goals, they turn a deaf ear to what others might have to say about it.

Tokushitsukei (Specialization)
Specialists are individualists. They won't tell you anything important about themselves, and they refrain from making close friends. But, due to their natural charisma that attracts others, they're always surrounded by a lot of people. Like in Kuroro's case.
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Pariston and Ging are included.If someone know legends or stories about these animals he should post them.

Here are my ideas:

-Mizaistom:We know that he uses cards to fight,so he should be materialization but I think his traits are more than of a manipulator or specialist.He is probably a conjurer or a specialist.

-Piyon:She is calm most of the time and she uses frequently gadgets.I think she is a conjurer.

-Gehl:Transmuter,she transformed her arm into a snake.

- Ginta:Enhancer,but I have some doubts…He was among zodiacs who tried to manipulate votes and he doesn’t seem to be naïve,he was the one who guessed the reason of Hisoka’s presence.

-Clook:She manipulates birds….

-Saiyuu:It’s obvious that he is inspired from the legend of Son Goku of Journey to the West, he also conjured a stick.He is a conjurer…

-Botobai:His name is inspired from a DQ monster,his hatsu should be related….I think he is an enhancer or a specialist.

-Kanzai: OK,Kanzai is an emitter IMO,he has all their traits.His hatsu should be related to baseball,even his name is inspired from Kanzai’s Tiger,a baseball team.

-Cheadle: Manipulator,she has all their traits too.

-Sacchou: This guy is very careful and hide many things, he carries 2 swords and wears samurai-like clothes,i think he is a transmuter or a conjurer maybe manipulator.

-Pariston: He was the best Zodiac:hip.I see him as a transmuter or an ENHANCER.Transmuter because he likes to fool people and and is considered weird by the majority of the Zodiacs.Enhancer because this guy is really honest sometimes,he said directly to the Zodiacs that they should give up elections(he was right since the beginning)and he follows his feelings(he joined Zodiacs only to play with with Netero and his tears at the end of elections were (smiley).It’s often said that he is like Netero too…

-Ging: I thought about him a lot.

He said that he is like Netero but I honestly don’t think he is an enhancer.He is a manipulator or an emitter IMO,if I had to choose between those 2 types I would choose manipulation,Ging has all manipulator traits,when people ask him a question he always responds with arguments(discussion with Mr.Beans,Leorio,and above all with Cheadle)but he doesn’t act rationally when he wants to achieve his goals(he gave up Gon,and when people ask him some questions,he becomes easily angered because he is stubborn or because he won’t be able to give a logical answer(discussion with the GI girl,with Cheadle and also when he wanted to see elections’results).
Now his hatsu,I think it’s a sort of teleportation,hunting or hide and seek ability.Since his childhood Ging has always been chased,Mito chased him,Kite chased him,Gon chased him,Zodiacs chased him.And when Mito think about him,she always mention his back.Ging is also the archetype of the hunter and what he said to Mr Beans really caught my attention.
Or maybe I am thinking too deeply and his hatsu is Reigan:derp.

Sorry for the faults if there are,i will edit it later.
 

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Re: Zodiac's nen type and Hatsu.

Pariston is probably a specialist (charisma and self centeredness). Ging is too annoying to be specialist, too calm to be ... reinforcement? Could he be a transmuter? He is also extremely self centered, however. I would say he's either reinforcement, like Gon (presumably it runs in the blood) or transmutation.

The other guys i don't remember much about. Oh yes, Cheadle. Although intelligent, the earnestness and possible healing abilities (implied by the stuff she wears) suggests that she's reinforcement. Botobai likely to be reinforcement.
 

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Re: Zodiac's nen type and Hatsu.

Ging is annoying? I don't think he is a specialist but he has the influence of a statesman and several persons follow him.
 

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Re: Zodiac's nen type and Hatsu.

[SIZE="5"[COLOR="black"]]sheedle ...she thinks alot she is careful...must be conjurer ''i think she use a book too'

sacchou..he seem calm don't reveal any think maybe liar he is lower after all tricky ..must be transmutation

pariston...he dont reveal his true intentions he trick people...he is involved in some dirty work but lie about it ....he is Transmutation

ging ... he get angry easily he is rude to give up his son ....he must be emitter ..i think even the two monsters are emitted and manipulated...he left his aura in the radio for 10 years thats an emitter characteristic

miziastom..conscience man with common sense ..i think reinforcement

botobai...may be enhacer too or emiter

kenzai..emitter easily angred

sayuu...he looks like the monkey god worshiped in india ...that god has physical power abilities so i think he is reinforcement


ginta... has an australian flag on the chest he is sheep... the sheep of australia are extremely powerful...must be reinforcement or emitter

clook...manipulator

gehl...transmutation

piyon...alll those gadgets and stuf ..maybe manipulator [/SIZE][/COLOR]
 

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Re: Zodiac's nen type and Hatsu.

I'd definitely be a Manipulator xD This is what I think -

Ging - Manipulator or Specialist

Pariston - Transmuter

Cheadle - Conjurer

That's all I can come up with :p
 

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Re: Zodiac's nen type and Hatsu.

Dunno, I think gin is meant to be some tribute to urameshi yusuke so I lean heavily towards him being an emitter.

Pariston has the whole charismatic personality thing, if there is a specialization among the zodiac it is him. If that is not it then his whimsical and lying nature would make him a transmuter.

Monkey seems to be either a conjurer or a manipulator. We saw the staff he had so either category could work. I lean towards conjuring though.

Snake seems to be a manipulator. Her hands seem to turn to snakes so far. Not sure if that could also fall under transformation though.

Tiger seems too straightforward to be anything but an enhancer.

Cow appears to be an enhancer too.

Sheep seems like an enhacer too so far.

Rooster is an obvious and blatant manipulator. No other ability would allow her to control actual birds. We even had a manipulator who did the same with dogs.

Personality wise cheadle strikes me as a conjurer.
 

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who you think is the mole mentioned by kurapika in the zodiacs
personally i'm thinking Mizaistom or Saccho caus it's way too cheesy for an elite detective not to figure out the mole subject and mizai for the possibility of playing a double game to cover his tracks
 
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Re: the mole in the zodiacs

I still like the idea of Beans being the mole. He's been around as long if not longer than the zodiacs, has access to everything, and conveniently fades into the background when his role is done.

If you were Beyond, and knew that your father hand-picked the Zodiacs to get in your way, would you try to go through them or around them?
 

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Re: the mole in the zodiacs

Ginta :-_-
 

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Re: the mole in the zodiacs

I still like the idea of Beans being the mole. He's been around as long if not longer than the zodiacs, has access to everything, and conveniently fades into the background when his role is done.

If you were Beyond, and knew that your father hand-picked the Zodiacs to get in your way, would you try to go through them or around them?
beans doesn't seem like the type of person that could pull a double agent however you do make a point
care to explain ur point of view?
 

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Re: the mole in the zodiacs

I think Botobai, he seems the least suspicious, which makes me think it's him lol.
 

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Re: the mole in the zodiacs

Kanzai. He is portrayed as dumb and i cant really believe this since he is shown.
 

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Re: the mole in the zodiacs

Where is the option of Kurapika? I think that he is hired by Beyond to infiltrate the Zodiac and it was all part of the plan for him to join.
 

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Re: the mole in the zodiacs

Where is the option of Kurapika? I think that he is hired by Beyond to infiltrate the Zodiac and it was all part of the plan for him to join.
That would be an interesting twist, since Kurapika asked the question about the mole, the other zodiacs probably suspect him the least.
 

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Re: the mole in the zodiacs

There is no mole... kinda lame that option wasn't there, but whatever lol. The theory its Kurapika is great... because we know all he cares about is obtaining the eyes. If Beyond made a deal with him then I'm sure thats the case.... and it would be a way better twist by Togashi than just picking one of the 10 ~_~
 

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Poll redone with more choices. The thread is now about the Zodiacs as a whole, not only about the mole.
 

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Re: the mole in the zodiacs

That would be an interesting twist, since Kurapika asked the question about the mole, the other zodiacs probably suspect him the least.
If that's the case nobody would suspect Leorio. lol
 

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Botobai ,he just seems like it and not really is takin often part in the conversations
 

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Botobai ,he just seems like it and not really is takin often part in the conversations
Yeah, he seems to be the most calm of all the zodiacs aswell.
 

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we already know pariston is working for beyond and he's really smart personally if he wasn't being obvious in his actions and ging deductions i wouldn't suspect him early on and since he left the zodiacs i can only imagine that he did so after he found a replacement for him as an intel-source the fact that he knew who was responsible for the hunter's exam defenses proove for me that the mole theory is accurate,judging from pariston caracter i think we can rule out the obvious ones he wouldn't have left a weak liar in his place so what we're looking for is someone who fakes a certain amount of loyalty and has good intellect so my target is Mizaistom here how i see it :

what if what he told kurapika is just for show so that kurapika can rule him out of the suspects list beside this may seem like a weak argument but comparing his integration of the Ox which is just clothes others really went for it : cloths, faces even kinda acting like their animal symbol
 
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