ToG Is Going (has gone?) to Shit.

ToG, particularly S3, has been trending towards dog-shit. Private poll.

  • Yes

    Votes: 32 53.3%
  • No

    Votes: 28 46.7%

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DanielGacitua

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After the last chapter it became clear to me that siu has no idea what he is doing with his work

Sure, the princess' tournament arc didn't seem like a masterpiece but at least we'd see regulars fighting with some logic and not just big explosions, but now it looks like Baam wll also fight

Would anyone seriously enjoy seeing Baam beeating regulars for an entire arc? Certainly not me
 

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After the last chapter it became clear to me that siu has no idea what he is doing with his work

Sure, the princess' tournament arc didn't seem like a masterpiece but at least we'd see regulars fighting with some logic and not just big explosions, but now it looks like Baam wll also fight

Would anyone seriously enjoy seeing Baam beeating regulars for an entire arc? Certainly not me
Seing regular fight and princess could be enjoyable , but seing Baam them when he could solo all off them without the torn or Levi ? Naaah .
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I will hold back my opinion on this for the time being and pray for SIU to get back into shape.
Idk but reading the last few chapters, things seriously seem to have gone wrong somewhere. 😣
I had contemplated for some time if I should give it up for now but TOG has characters I care about. So, in the end, I couldn't.
I wonder if this princess arc was not created because Baam became too powerful and SIU is finding harder and harder to fit Baam friend into each arcs ?
 

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FWIW the last chapter actually makes me more optimistic about SIU's concepts for the series...but (a) I'm pessimistic about how well he'd be able to execute under perfect conditions and (b) I'm very pessimistic about how well he'll be able to execute under his current conditions.

If I knew SIU personally I'd be pushing him for the Xenogears option. This would be basically (a) jump to just before the finale, (b) do a long, highly-condensed flashback covering the main narrative points, (c) do the finale, ending, and epilogue in real time, and then (d) bring the series to a conclusion. Since I don't know him all I can do is mention it here, but that's IMHO the best actually-available option for SIU and ToG.

That said, it's still a pity b/c with just this last chapter a couple good possibilities came into focus.

One is that Leviathan having some Traum's memories is a good setup for a heel-face-turn vis-a-vis Traum (and then maybe other family heads). My pure speculation is Traum will turn out to have been Zahara's most-loyal/biggest-today because he deliberately sealed away all his rebellious thoughts/"good qualities" over with Leviathan...with this whole strange "heir arc" being some giant long-term scheme for Traum to eventually liberate himself from Zahard.

Another is the 12-month series: some kind of fetch for these always felt inevitable, but this tournament could double as a fetch quest—IMHO lots of princesses will show up, some of which will bring some months. (It'd make sense for the princesses to say they're there to defeat Baam, not marry him, but that's a detail—their showing up would be the point).

Another is the Androssi/Baam whatever-mance: actually moving that directly into a pairing has always felt like it'd be very out of place. That said, I could easily see SIU's concept here being "Androssi and Baam battle in the final round, Baam winds up 'letting her win' to save her some sort of situational threat/external problem."

Another is the low-key mind control angle SIU's been threading through: having 2+ 12 months active mind-controls the bearer into kill-crazy psycho, we saw some kind of reactive Zahard mind-control over Androssi (and, I think, Maschenny) back in the hidden floor arc, and there's a vague hint of Ren exercising a more-limited form of it way back in S1 (...that's a bit of a leap, but it's defensible). Combine that with the previous item and you get the Baam/Androssi fight either being a surprisingly-real fight or turning into one by surprise—would be fun.

A final one is Rachel: she's back, she's around, she probably used her 3 wishes, but whatever they are they aren't obvious. Given her general sneakiness and nastiness lots of room for her to show up and throw some real curve balls into the tournament.

You get the idea: if you take what's in play with where we're at we have the upcoming arc has a lot of really good potential. If you take a realistic look at how SIU's been executing lately, though, it's hard to feel confident in the upcoming arc. I'd like to believe he could go all "eat, pray, love" and return all "how SIU got his groove back,...but if I'm honest I think he should opt for the Xenogears option (and wrap it up in no more than one more year, tops).
 

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3 things
1: power level inconsistent: regulars getting back from rankers’/hr’s battle unscathed, and them “contributing” in the game.
2: baam’s power ups: too many, too repetitive and evey power ups just disappear after a few ep, ik baam swallow power, but just combine similar power into one, like he doesnt need 2 long distance shinsoo attack (bow and orb). Its obvious that siu thought “evankell’s orb was cool, lets give baam one as well; oh kell’s bow is awesome, great baam can absorb that”, the whole thing lacks planning and its a mess
3: regular’s power up: its obvious that siu forced it to keep them “relevant”, which he failed to do. Firefish is just ridiculous, siu need to plan things way ahead to ease them in, if firefish was not used immediately after AA woke up, it’ll be more natural.
 
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