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SIU won't give us one (if ever).

Please dump any tidbits here. e.g., X is older than Y by 500 years. Or X ranked 300 years after entering the tower. Etc.

Also time relevant events without hard data. For instance, Cha and Dowon were sealed before the end of Genesis.

Maybe if enough is posted something visual can start to take place.
 

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There's a TL on the wiki, full of holes, but it's still a good start
 

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There's a TL on the wiki, full of holes, but it's still a good start
Ah, FFS.

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Ah, FFS.

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Now that I understand, the first children of the 10 families apparently started climbing before Zahard and the others reached the 134th floor.

I thought they became rankers together with 13GW, Molic and Luslec.
 

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Now that I understand, the first children of the 10 families apparently started climbing before Zahard and the others reached the 134th floor.

I thought they became rankers together with 13GW, Molic and Luslec.
Wow, Jinsung was born before the FHs even completed their climb. Was it stated in any blogs/chapter though 🤔?

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Edit: Basically, why the goals of the irregulars are different, some want to get to top, some stay, and some to get out ?

Then they likely had these families, during later part of their climb.
By extension, I am assuming these:
1. Most of the GWs, were okay to live inside the tower, except Arlene, V, and likely Zahard too, i think he chose to stop for some reason, not just let's become a king.
2. Rachel just wants to reach the top of the tower, those stars, don't know what they are, but it seems reaching the top isn't the way out to the 'Outside'.
3. Urek just wants to get out of the tower, I assume he climbed to the top just to either find phantamanium (spelled wrong:), or just find a way out at the top.
4. And our baam, well... no goal ?

Why did they even start the climb, is the tower a prison they can't get out, is it the way out at top, is it just another world where they can live their whole lives ? I there's more than reach the top, you will get everything, i think that's true only for the regulars.
 
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Wow, Jinsung was born before the FHs even completed their climb. Was it stated in any blogs/chapter though 🤔?

====Extra, unrelated to this particular thread===
Edit: Basically, why the goals of the irregulars are different, some want to get to top, some stay, and some to get out ?

Then they likely had these families, during later part of their climb.
By extension, I am assuming these:
1. Most of the GWs, were okay to live inside the tower, except Arlene, V, and likely Zahard too, i think he chose to stop for some reason, not just let's become a king.
2. Rachel just wants to reach the top of the tower, those stars, don't know what they are, but it seems reaching the top isn't the way out to the 'Outside'.
3. Urek just wants to get out of the tower, I assume he climbed to the top just to either find phantamanium (spelled wrong:), or just find a way out at the top.
4. And our baam, well... no goal ?

Why did they even start the climb, is the tower a prison they can't get out, is it the way out at top, is it just another world where they can live their whole lives ? I there's more than reach the top, you will get everything, i think that's true only for the regulars.
Well if you can be a god in the tower, why leave?

I always thought that outside the tower the 13GW was just common, seeing everything they could get in the tower it would be weird if they wanted to leave.
 

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Well if you can be a god in the tower, why leave?

I always thought that outside the tower the 13GW was just common, seeing everything they could get in the tower it would be weird if they wanted to leave.
Yes, that is likely to be the case with the FHs. I also think of the outside as a common world (probably a destroyed earth, that's just how i imagine it to be).
I am curious of the goals of the others, why Urek would want to leave the tower, and as for Rachel she seemed to want to see the stars (IIRC stars are mentioned only by Arlene and Urek, and in context of the outside world, then if those were the stars Rachel also wants to see, why climb the tower).
 

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Urek may think be can get out by doing so, since he wrong (cannot exceed 134 as it needed key which is 13months and Zahard's symboled rings) so he go to Gustang, only to him being more depressed and saying it's better to get out using spion (maybe he meant hell Joe situation, this was and old post/gossip by SIU you can found in wikia)

For Rachel, well, idk what floor Arlene can go out but definitely need to climb more, but seeing stars wasn't Rachel's only intention, i bet it more like 'anything greater' she seems to know Arlene, she may see Baam with curiosity over the destined child and seeing star was more likely she want his destiny to be hers as she see he doesn't had any wish to seek star or even get out of the place he stuck in. Then, she wanted being pretty, and now seek influence, it is indeed understandable to some extend.

But honestly, she really is a no brained one. That's make it pathetic. Cunning and a bit of size was thypical villain in some stories. Her's position is weird even more so after Gustang takes her. What is she? Part of key? Arlene's child? Akryung have the same eyes as Baam did he was Arlene child or something like Mitsuki and Orochimaru relationship? Wow i writing and too long about Rachel haha
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Well if you can be a god in the tower, why leave?

I always thought that outside the tower the 13GW was just common, seeing everything they could get in the tower it would be weird if they wanted to leave.
It could be, also the outside has no shinsoo it possible they don't want losing most of their power too. I mean, data Zahard said he came from a vast place, Gustang say to Urek (when he wanted to erase people of FoD of their memories) that he understood why Urek behave like that, a shark (or big fish or something i can't remember full) was trapped inside small bowl. (He said it cause Urek had that personalities of his)
 
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