Discussion Träumerei psychology

[Kallavan]

Hello people,

I wanted to discuss about Träumerei personnality in this thread and give you my opinion.

The very first time we saw a glimpse of his character, was when the eye odd cobra came to attack the hidden grove, and told them the Lo Po Bia family leader was sad and angry about his son death.

Then, way later, in the recent chapters, during Yasratcha flashback.

There are some clues that could tell about how is Traumerei's mind.

First, just look at his throne and the place he lived for eons : he is completely alone, and never invite people to come to his place, he just communicate through screens. I don't know for you, but I think Traumerei is SAD as fuck about his situation somehow.
He tends to call people "triffles", but it's like he is trying too hard to convince himself that they don't mean anything.
He seems to get frustrated about the leviathan too, we can say he cares about it.

When he ordered the murder of Wangwang, you can tell he doesn't really want to do this, but he can't let it have a pass, because Wangwang is a "traitor" officially.
Kirin said about Yasratcha how foolish it was of that cat to tell about Wangwang betrayal, because he (Kirin) knew Träumerei would get hurt by this.

To conclude, I think Träumerei is actively trying to push back his real emotions for some reason, maybe because, as a leader of a great family, if he did show them, it would be a sign of weakness.
I don't think Traumerei is a really bad person but more acting like a god because of what he represents, even though he has done a ton of bad things.
We can tell he isn't infallible

 

[kkck]

Maybe? Imagine being in the tower and being surrounded by worthless trifles. Is there even a difference between being alone in a dark room and being out there with the trifles? Ok, yes, but it's not THAT big a difference. You are equally alone in both scenarios, the main difference is the lighting basically. That said, it's pretty clear traumerei has been hurt in the past.

We still ultimately don't know why the great warriors see tower residents as basically NPCs... and whether such a belief is justified. I think we will get a better glimpse of who traumerei is when he meets bam whom he would presumably regard as a person.

 

[Ignorant]

Hello people,

I wanted to discuss about Träumerei personnality in this thread and give you my opinion.

The very first time we saw a glimpse of his character, was when the eye odd cobra came to attack the hidden grove, and told them the Lo Po Bia family leader was sad and angry about his son death.

Then, way later, in the recent chapters, during Yasratcha flashback.

There are some clues that could tell about how is Traumerei's mind.

First, just look at his throne and the place he lived for eons : he is completely alone, and never invite people to come to his place, he just communicate through screens. I don't know for you, but I think Traumerei is SAD as fuck about his situation somehow.
He tends to call people "triffles", but it's like he is trying too hard to convince himself that they don't mean anything.
He seems to get frustrated about the leviathan too, we can say he cares about it.

When he ordered the murder of Wangwang, you can tell he doesn't really want to do this, but he can't let it have a pass, because Wangwang is a "traitor" officially.
Kirin said about Yasratcha how foolish it was of that cat to tell about Wangwang betrayal, because he (Kirin) knew Träumerei would get hurt by this.

To conclude, I think Träumerei is actively trying to push back his real emotions for some reason, maybe because, as a leader of a great family, if he did show them, it would be a sign of weakness.
I don't think Traumerei is a really bad person but more acting like a god because of what he represents, even though he has done a ton of bad things.
We can tell he isn't infallible

I got tired trying to explain this to the group!
its clearly obvious Traumerei got real feelings for WW..
He just want him to chose him before NN
As he did with Doom’s mom..
It seems that the situation with Traumerei is before his climbing.. is a problem from his home parents
Is like he was raised from a tough Dad who teach him that he is superior and need to rule over the rest in order to them obey his orders and desires..

Or could be that the answer is in the FB of kendry, haratcha and ha satcha!
Think about the meaning of this FBs:

kendry: a regular guy that want the power to rule over the weak to feel important.. “insecurities”

Haratcha: a hero for his people he gave everything he has to them even his loyalty and got used by his own people “False love”

Ha Satcha: a regular girl that just want to have fun with her friends but they started to compete to each other so when she show her true talent she ended up alone without any friend because she was to strong for their league... “Envy, lonely at the top”

Yasratcha: a regular cat insterested in having fun with a best friend Dog that want a master.. After all that time WW couldn’t see Yas like a friend, brother etc.. like Yas saw him.. WW did not care about its equals and subordinates till the end.. “Jealousy”

If we mixed all this emotions and put it in a kid head
And after whatever he saw in the rice pot revolution..
(Because they started changing and acting godly after the rice pot when they get to know their true-self)
you can understand why Traumerei is like this.

•he has insecurities (immortality contract, power to control others) when he was asked about the animal by Kirin he said: It's been a long time since I felt like this while clenching his fists.
•he tasted false love (was betrayed for a Person before that marked him for life)
•he’s lonely at the top.
He’s a jealous person (ww and nn case)

He got a real trauma.. maybe when he’s alone he can be his true-self but he don’t want anybody to get to close to him vause he don’t want to feel the same again.. helplessness, pain, memories.


Anyway: He’s Bad.