Discussion U-17 Match-Ups. Place your bets!

[Dansan1]

No I get that.

I'm not saying that you can judge Inui's match up against someone else by his matchup against Renjii. I was only saying that in the Renjii match he demonstrated things that gave us info about him.

The Rikkai guys are all ridiculously strong physically and mentally, and Renjii is one of the three. So the fact that Inui could keep up with him just demonstrates some of the "stuff" that Inui's made up of.

I just never got the impression that Mizuki was on that level either with technique or physical capabilities.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Well, even though Fuji wasn't going serious, he won 5 games against a Fuji that most everyone did think was serious. Essentially, he was beating Fuji at the level that he was praised as being a genius for, Fuji just happened to have a lot more hidden away.

 

[Dansan1]

I always got the opposite feeling from that match (that it made Mizuki look even worse than his build up...)

I didn't get the impression that Mizuki was actually really outplaying even that Fuji.

I got the impression that Fuji was specifically letting Mizuki win games to give an extra special treatment for Yuuta.

The Fuji that crushed Mizuki (without him getting a single point once Fuji didn't want him to) was still that casual Fuji that had not yet released his craziness.

At least that's what I thought about the match.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I always got the opposite feeling from that match (that it made Mizuki look even worse than his build up...)

I didn't get the impression that Mizuki was actually really outplaying even that Fuji.

I got the impression that Fuji was specifically letting Mizuki win games to give an extra special treatment for Yuuta.

The Fuji that crushed Mizuki (without him getting a single point once Fuji didn't want him to) was still that casual Fuji that had not yet released his craziness.

At least that's what I thought about the match.

He seemed to get a lot more serious to me.

Yeah, he wasn't going all out. That was obvious. But if he had been giving up that badly, Mizuki (and others) would have realized something.

Mizuki had gathered data on Fuji based on his previous matches. However, Fuji had been disguising all his true abilities.

I don't think Mizuki could beat Fuji, but I do think he showed that he had a good amount of skill. Fuji had to actually get serious in that match (even though he never got truly serious until the Kirihara match, this was the first time he got a little serious).

 

[Fayte]

And even against Kirihara, Fuji said he would have lost, had his sight not been gone.

 

[Dansan1]

Yep, losing the sight specifically awakened new areas for Fuji's tennis.

He didn't only get serious in the Kirihara match, he got better. That was his first growth as a tennis player.

Okay new match up....someone else pick I already mentioned the only one that I was curious about (about the vote results so far that is, I'm interested in seeing many of the matches.)

 

[Fayte]

That was when we saw how good Kirihara really is, in my point of view.

 

[Dansan1]

Okay then,

How about Renjii V Kirihara? Demon v demon.

 

[Fayte]

I don't think Kirihara is at Renji's level yet, but who knows. Maybe when they play again in their match-up, Kirihara will once again evolve and beat him. It is also needed for the evolution of Kirihara. Renji is step 1. However, as he is now, even with his devil mode, he cannot win.

 

[Dansan1]

I got that impression too. Even though we've seen way more of Kirihara and Renjii got just about nothing in the manga (loss to Inui and a couple of wins in doubles) I always felt like Renjii was still more beastly than Kirihara with his crazy mind powers.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I feel like Kirihara is at his level. Devil Mode might also be the point where having data isn't particularly useful if you can't do anything with it.

I feel like Kirihara will win that match.

 

[Fayte]

That is precisely why people overlook Renji. He has no screentime compared to Kirihara. However, that doesn't mean his skill has decreased, as seen in the doubles match against Inui and Kaidoh. That Cicada shot was awesome.

http://www.onemanga.com/Prince_of_Tennis/356/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/Prince_of_Tennis/356/09/

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

That is precisely why people overlook Renji. He has no screentime compared to Kirihara. However, that doesn't mean his skill has decreased, as seen in the doubles match against Inui and Kaidoh. That Cicada shot was awesome.

http://www.onemanga.com/Prince_of_Tennis/356/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/Prince_of_Tennis/356/09/

Yeah, Yanagi is quite skilled, and he does get overlooked some. It should be a close match between the two of them, but Kirihara's continued evolution will take him to the top.

 

[Dansan1]

Ultimately that is what will win out. If Kirihara is more popular (and he is...) and we really are losing one of the two, then Renjii's out.

 

[Atobe the king]

Renji has all of Akaya's data....but Akaya was the first opponent to test Fuji, i don't picture Renji besting Fuji for the same reason Inui can't....you can't gauge what you can't comprehend

Utsusemi is pretty much a Zero Shiki whcih rolls forward...Renji is a slice master, seems to be really good at that shot

 

[Fayte]

Utsusemi is pretty much a Zero Shiki whcih rolls forward...Renji is a slice master, seems to be really good at that shot

Actually, this move looks like a topspin(reverse slice?). He drops the racquet low in a slice angle, then raises up and back - slightly with his wrist, to put a topspin on the ball. When the ball lands, it just rolls.

 

[Atobe the king]

Actually, this move looks like a topspin(reverse slice?). He drops the racquet low in a slice angle, then raises up and back - slightly with his wrist, to put a topspin on the ball. When the ball lands, it just rolls.

For a slice, racket head goes ups, comes slicing down and the finish should have the racket head below the waist, Konomi looked like he was drawing it at the right when the racket head dipped, but given the court position Renji was in...i'd say it's actually a volley

I don't think Mizuki could beat Fuji, but I do think he showed that he had a good amount of skill. Fuji had to actually get serious in that match (even though he never got truly serious until the Kirihara match, this was the first time he got a little serious).

I don't think he got serious at all...as far as i know he didn't even use the counters (gotta reread that)

 

[wasu311]

Somebody know who missing from match-up list?

7 name missing.
I just know momoshiro , gin from shiten , marui from rikkai.
I think I see kenya from shiten and jairo (somewhere).
but I don't know last 2 name... do you know???

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Somebody know who missing from match-up list?

7 name missing.
I just know momoshiro , gin from shiten , marui from rikkai.
I think I see kenya from shiten and jairo (somewhere).
but I don't know last 2 name... do you know???

We don't know who the last 2 people are yet. We've only seen 48 people so far, so those last two spots could be just about anyone.

 

[Fayte]

Somebody know who missing from match-up list?

7 name missing.
I just know momoshiro , gin from shiten , marui from rikkai.
I think I see kenya from shiten and jairo (somewhere).
but I don't know last 2 name... do you know???

We have estimations on who will most likely play who.

Momo will play Echizen
Marui will play Jackal
Kenya will play Shiraishi
Jiro will play Kabaji (certain)
Gin will play Gayboy