Urek vs Enryu

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Now that we know urek is the radiant one and fought pentaminium , is urek stronger than enryu?

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I think he might actually be. He has never used his shining powers inside the Tower. He is probably just playing around with Shinsoo for the sake of having fun...But going by feats, Enryu offing an administrator>>>Anything Urek has shown so far.
 

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Outside power though does not = power inside the tower. Even if he is the weakest outside, it doesn't mean he's the weakest inside, he could be the strongest. For all we know some or most of the Family Heads could follow that pattern. Bam seemed weak outside, even when getting in at first glance he seemed weak, but he's busted. Similarly though, even if we speculate that Urek is equal to pentaminum outside the tower, it does not mean he is equal to him inside the tower. For all we know their powers manifest differently once inside the tower. Outside the tower penta could just be a bloke equal to a radiant one or 2 at best, but inside the tower he's someone that can alter reality itself, Urek could be someone capable of altering reality itself outside of the tower, but inside he's just someone barely on par with a guy that hid under his bed when penta raided his palace.

We're going to have to wait and see how siu does the scaling but I still keep Enryu above Urek, by a long shot. The only thing that changes is that now I can firmly hold my belief that Enryu is the true #1 in the tower and not penta.
My point still stands if the Axis stuff are still kept around by SIU.
 

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My point still stands if the Axis stuff are still kept around by SIU.
I don't think the axis concept exists anymore. It's a whole new thing now.
 

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We won't see the Axis concept in ToG, but this is Urek's story, not ToG.

Plus, SIU's used the terms usually linked to Axis like "King" and "Stories/Tales" when reffering to Pentaminum.
 

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We won't see the Axis concept in ToG, but this is Urek's story, not ToG.

Plus, SIU's used the terms usually linked to Axis like "King" and "Stories/Tales" when reffering to Pentaminum.
Even in Urek's story we won't see it imo. Pentaminum is not an axis if we go off its original definition.
 

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It's possible the reason Phantaminum led Urek into the Tower was so that he could reach his potential.
 

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Even in Urek's story we won't see it imo. Pentaminum is not an axis if we go off its original definition.
Why not? Anyone can awaken as an axis. Regardless of his origins, which is very superficial for us right now, there is no reason why Pentaminum couldn't awaken as an axis.

Plus, we can't even know If Pentaminum was or not he author of that whole story. The whole axis concept is very superficial for us anyways. But the "King of Jewels" and the strongest being in "that tale" basically fit Pentaminum as an axis. Even if the concept is scrapped.
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It's possible the reason Phantaminum led Urek into the Tower was so that he could reach his potential.
I won't think so hard about that. I think Pentaminum wanted to troll Urek.
 

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Why not? Anyone can awaken as an axis. Regardless of his origins, which is very superficial for us right now, there is no reason why Pentaminum couldn't awaken as an axis.

Plus, we can't even know If Pentaminum was or not he author of that whole story. The whole axis concept is very superficial for us anyways. But the "King of Jewels" and the strongest being in "that tale" basically fit Pentaminum as an axis. Even if the concept is scrapped.
I think this new concept is similar to the axis concept, however it's on a lower scale imo. I don't know if penta, who is created by another being can awaken as an axis. From what we've seen from the old stories SIU wrote before tog, it's been stated that ordinary humans can randomly awaken as an axis, nothing else was really stated. Highly doubt an axis can use their author writing abilities, create a human or living entity, than that entity just has the ability to awaken as an axis. I don't think that's how it works. But let's say penta is an axis, then that means that Urek can never beat him unless he's an axis. However, if Urek is an axis then he would be considered omnipotent relative to anyone in tog. He could just kill anyone in tog including the admins, headon, etc instantly. It wouldn't make sense. I think that SIU used his axis concept as a initial idea and adjusted it into something new. It's for the better too, axises are just too broken and are unbeatable to non axises.
 

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Lulz, but a "powerless" Urek already impacted Headon by his existence alone considering the Tower rejects him but can't refuse him.


It's kinda an already lost bet


A lesser Admin wanking him is kinda pointless ain't it?
Just cut that out man you know what I am talking about when I say "impact". Headon was not "impacted" in that way.
Are you in or not? xD
 

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Just cut that out man you know what I am talking about when I say "impact". Headon was not "impacted" in that way.
Are you in or not? xD

Me doubting that SIU will wank Urek?


never gonna happen.


But for how many days anyway?


Anything close to a week is impossible, need a realistic number here :amuse
 

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Me doubting that SIU will wank Urek?


never gonna happen.


But for how many days anyway?


Anything close to a week is impossible, need a realistic number here :amuse
3 days of Luslec. As long as it is not derogatory and it is obvious that it is luslec, fine by me :D
I can do the same thing if the opposite hold true. Of course you state that condition, otherwise no thrill ( xD )
 

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3 days of Luslec. As long as it is not derogatory and it is obvious that it is luslec, fine by me :D
I can do the same thing if the opposite hold true. Of course you state that condition, otherwise no thrill ( xD )

perfecto, get ready to recieve more Urek glaze in the coming chapters when we reach that part. :3c



Same 3 day condition for you too :verily
 

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If the fight is inside the tower, Enryu wins. If the fight is outside the tower, Mazino wins. I think the tower limits Mazino's full capacity to unleash devastation because his power works on light, and shinshoo is the medium through which everything is achieved in the tower. Even if our current Mazino has learned shinshoo to the peak of his ability, I still think he's inferior to Enryu's showing of 9000 bangs. But outside is a different story. Urek was created to fight and kill Phanta.
 

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I think he might actually be. He has never used his shining powers inside the Tower. He is probably just playing around with Shinsoo for the sake of having fun...But going by feats, Enryu offing an administrator>>>Anything Urek has shown so far.
I believe we should also add another feat to Enryu as coming and going out of tower as he pleases, and probably where he pleases.
 

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I believe we should also add another feat to Enryu as coming and going out of tower as he pleases, and probably where he pleases.
I think only phanta and enryu has shown feats like this. Enryu can be equivalent of higher level shinny ones in his own world or something like phanta but rather than going against darkness , he serves it.
 

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Now that we know urek is the radiant one and fought pentaminium , is urek stronger than enryu?

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How do we know Urek already fought Phantaminum? All I know is he was chasing Phantaminum.

If Enryu is also another radiant one then Enryu is stronger else Urek is stronger.
 

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How do we know Urek already fought Phantaminum? All I know is he was chasing Phantaminum.

If Enryu is also another radiant one then Enryu is stronger else Urek is stronger.
Didn't uerk said he lost when he entered the tower?

Enryu comes from different world. Shinning ones and phanta are part of diffrent story/world. But yeah Enryu can be equivalent of shinning one in his own world.
 
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