Urek vs Prime V and Current Luslec

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

V considers urek a character who may very well be stronger than his prime self. Can the addition of luslec give V the win he needs against urek?

Thoughts? @Lord V returned @arrowofsky @maverickframe_19 etc

 

[Jackjohsnon]

Urek is stronger than V, then Urek wins.

Don't get me wrong. If Urek is willingly to kill, nothing Luslec can do, he will get killed.

If Urek fights with killing intent, nothing is going to stop him.

 

[arrowofsky]

Urek is weak-willed, and if Luslec is serious Urek will always be at a disadvantage while getting thrashed by V

The people you @ here speaks volumes about what sort of things you expect to hear and fun discussions you would like to see xD

 

[maverickframe_19]

Prime V wouldn't be that far from Urek in terms of power level. Again let me emphasize this, V said he isn't sure about the outcome (Win, Draw, Lose) everything was on the table when he made that comment on Mazino. Now you add Luslec into the mix who went 3 for 3 with that spell of his. I think Team V wins.

 

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Prime V wouldn't be that far from Urek in terms of power level. Again let me emphasize this, V said he isn't sure about the outcome (Win, Draw, Lose) everything was on the table when he made that comment on Mazino. Now you add Luslec into the mix who went 3 for 3 with that spell of his. I think Team V wins.

I agree, I think Luslec would at least be able to distract and confuse urek and if Prime V is close to Urek as a fighter, than that should be a definite victory for team V. We saw Gustang vs Traumeri, gustang could of easily died to traumeri, at any time, if he was even distracted for an instant. So we know fights of this caliber, where two oponents are comparable as fighters, every moment counts. So all luslec needs to do is confuse urek multiple times. We've seen him do it. Now Urek could just one shot Luslec right off the bat(if he's that strong), but I don't think he'll do that based on his personality.

 

[Lord V returned]

I think V just said that because Urek was an unknown at the time. He isn't fully unsealed from Bam yet, he flew at a pace he figured was at least much faster than the rest can keep up with, it was even faster than all of them(Urek, Traumerei, Gustang) could see as he effectively blitzed all of them. His real surprise came that Urek can at least catch up to him, even if it's obvious V isn't going all out yet. So perhaps that and his ability to block attacks made V feel that he isn't quite sure of the scale of Urek and he can't be sure if he can win or not. I think once he starts to look more into it, maybe get some info from Luslec that fought Urek before he can get a better scale of things. We already know that sealed-nerfed V already outputs enough damage to make even Urek think that it's enough to kill a Family Head.

I'd like to think that Urek just has raw power on his side, but someone like V has a lot more experience where he can achieve better results while giving less. His entire shinsu(tension) is even built around that, the most damage with the least effort, that however doesn't mean he can't do more damage with more effort too.

I'd like to see full powered Luslec for a real fight though.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Both lose, neither V nor Luslec proved they can scale the limits of Urek's strength.


One already claimed Urek and Gustang possible equals of all things and thought he could beat them both combined, freaking lol.


I have zero faith in these two bluffs.


Traum and Blossom is a much more difficult matchup in comparison.

 

[arrowofsky]

I think V just said that because Urek was an unknown at the time. He isn't fully unsealed from Bam yet, he flew at a pace he figured was at least much faster than the rest can keep up with, it was even faster than all of them(Urek, Traumerei, Gustang) could see as he effectively blitzed all of them. His real surprise came that Urek can at least catch up to him, even if it's obvious V isn't going all out yet. So perhaps that and his ability to block attacks made V feel that he isn't quite sure of the scale of Urek and he can't be sure if he can win or not. I think once he starts to look more into it, maybe get some info from Luslec that fought Urek before he can get a better scale of things. We already know that sealed-nerfed V already outputs enough damage to make even Urek think that it's enough to kill a Family Head.

I'd like to think that Urek just has raw power on his side, but someone like V has a lot more experience where he can achieve better results while giving less. His entire shinsu(tension) is even built around that, the most damage with the least effort, that however doesn't mean he can't do more damage with more effort too.

I'd like to see full powered Luslec for a real fight though.

I really don't expect a full powered Luslec, and he does not seem to be a going-all-out fisherman. I do wish though to see what is his arsenal, we saw so much of Gustang and Traumerei but not him. Besides Zahard Princess arc, we definitely need FUG arc (also guide arc, workshop arc, wing tree arc, admin arc).
By the way, I am not really interested in Luslec attempting to beat Urek, rather, I would love to see if he finds a way to kill a FH, that is much more relevant for FUG anyway.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

I really don't expect a full powered Luslec, and he does not seem to be a going-all-out fisherman. I do wish though to see what is his arsenal, we saw so much of Gustang and Traumerei but not him. Besides Zahard Princess arc, we definitely need FUG arc (also guide arc, workshop arc, wing tree arc, admin arc).
By the way, I am not really interested in Luslec attempting to beat Urek, rather, I would love to see if he finds a way to kill a FH, that is much more relevant for FUG anyway.

From the little which luslec showed , I am more impressed with his abilities than gustang sans obki and eurassia's flames and both were things given to him and not even his own abilities.

 

[arrowofsky]

From the little which luslec showed , I am more impressed with his abilities than gustang sans obki and eurassia's flames and both were things given to him and not even his own abilities.

The issue with Gustang is that he does not seem to have anything at all. Either directly borrows, or nerd his way to copy something.
>Library - nerding
>Blades - probably copied from Ari Han
>Flames - probably copied from Yeon Yirang
>Shield - probably copied from Hendo Lok Bloodmadder
>Purple hardcore flame - borrowed from Eurasia Blossom
>Okbi and scale - from workshop and gifted by V(iole)
>Bracelet - from Baam
>Cigarette - we don't yet know, Ha Jinsung? xD

He is so Shirou Emiya servant of Unlimited Blade Works. Some people may do sympathize with him because of how he seems to start from scratch. Yet, he is still a FH and OP, but we saw him in action and he was quite a disappointment. Conversely, Luslec was obviously at a disadvantage against FHs or definitely Urek but can still achieve non-negligible things and he has some more surprises. If only other characters would be in such cool states, rather than being OP or being ridiculed.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

The issue with Gustang is that he does not seem to have anything at all. Either directly borrows, or nerd his way to copy something.
>Library - nerding
>Blades - probably copied from Ari Han
>Flames - probably copied from Ha Yurin
>Shield - probably copied from Hendo Lok Bloodmadder
>Purple hardcore flame - borrowed from Eurasia Blossom
>Okbi and scale - from workshop and gifted by V(iole)
>Bracelet - from Baam
>Cigarette - we don't yet know, Ha Jinsung? xD

He is so Shirou Emiya servant of Unlimited Blade Works. Some people may do sympathize with him because of how he seems to start from scratch. Yet, he is still a FH and OP, but we saw him in action and he was quite a disappointment. Conversely, Luslec was obviously at a disadvantage against FHs or definitely Urek but can still achieve non-negligible things and he has some more surprises. If only other characters would be in such cool states, rather than being OP or being ridiculed.

Unos was the only good thing gustang showed from his side. His other arsenal really sucks. On top of that he keeps spamming boring flames repeatedly.

Luslec's dark spells have aura. You can feel the danger of them even when facing someone on the caliber of urek.

 

[fyofeelings]

These comments are funny once you realise Urek is stuck in the tower and avoids the fade with Zahard

 

[maverickframe_19]

These comments are funny once you realise Urek is stuck in the tower and avoids the fade with Zahard

True. I will forever criticize Urek for this gimmick. He says he's the champion of the tower but actively avoids Zahard. SPOOKY.

 

[Jackjohsnon]

True. I will forever criticize Urek for this gimmick. He says he's the champion of the tower but actively avoids Zahard. SPOOKY.

I mean, Zahard ran away from him at the end of S3

 

[Demonspeed]

I think Urek is stronger than V but there is no way to know for sure. In that kind of fight, a single Towerborn like Luslec is irrelevant IMO because if both Urek and V get serious he'll get obliterated.

If Urek is stronger than V Urek wins, if V is stronger than Urek, V wins.

 

[Lord V returned]

I really don't expect a full powered Luslec, and he does not seem to be a going-all-out fisherman. I do wish though to see what is his arsenal, we saw so much of Gustang and Traumerei but not him. Besides Zahard Princess arc, we definitely need FUG arc (also guide arc, workshop arc, wing tree arc, admin arc).
By the way, I am not really interested in Luslec attempting to beat Urek, rather, I would love to see if he finds a way to kill a FH, that is much more relevant for FUG anyway.

Yeah I also want to see what he managed to do while "resting" for the last tens of thousands of years. He didn't look like a shinsu or spell user before(daggers) but now he uses spells, how did that happen? Lots of stuff we need to learn, personally I would have liked that more than a boring "princess arc" as they don't really appeal to me at all, they're boring.

Cool avatar by the way.

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Unos was the only good thing gustang showed from his side. His other arsenal really sucks. On top of that he keeps spamming boring flames repeatedly.

Luslec's dark spells have aura. You can feel the danger of them even when facing someone on the caliber of urek.

And his aura was enough for gustang to imply that Urek dragging the Chad there, is it really 2 vs 1 then? Did he see Luslec as a contender?

Nice avatar, did you draw it or download it from fan art?

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Nice avatar, did you draw it or download it from fan art?

Downloaded it bro.

 

[arrowofsky]

Downloaded it bro.

There are like 3 luslec fan artworks on the whole world and you found the only good one

 

[VON]

Urek is stronger.

I’m like 99.99% confident of that. He’s an anomaly among irregulars, just not quite on the level of God or God’s subordinates.

I used to make excuses and more excuses that the 13 GW are on Urek’s level but that probably isn't the case for me anymore. Urek is genuinely the strongest person in the tower if Enryu had also left the tower. Everything just screams that he’s abnormal even compared to the 10 Family Heads. V even remarked that just off one encounter and started doubting himself and he was as special as Zahard is on the team.