WB Pirates Discussion Thread

[kal-elh]

what could have happened to WB original crew.

Died in Batle???

He was on a crew that disbanded???

He was on someones crew???

DIED OF OLD AGE

went home to take care of their children

Please tell us what you think.

 

[monkey D luffy]

Re: What Happened to WB Original Crew

thank you i didnt want to go off topic in the chapter discussion.

anyway, about thequestion you raise, i think that jozu and marco can infact be a part of his original crew due the fact the spoke like older people calling the other youngsters when shanks arrived, they seemed to know him personally too. about the other crewmates i think that save for ace all of the other fleet captains are part of the original crew, the others joined with time. i do believe that when roger ruled the sees both crews were kinda like luffy's and thats also why people see roger in luffy.

 

[Razh]

Re: What Happened to WB Original Crew

Dingoes ate them?

I'd like to propose a name like "Whitebeard pirates discussion thread" which would really be better for this kind of thread.

I would say that a part of them has died in battle or of old age and part of them have retired, probably living on some of the islands controlled by Whitebeard.
I don't think anyone is in jail, since we know how Whitebeard feels about that.

So, there were probably pirates that were older than Whitebeard in his crew, the same way that Luffy isn't the oldest. So, some of them could have died naturally I suppose.
But as for those that have supposedly died in battle. I don't think the period of stability was achieved easily. After Roger's death there was probably a lot of fighting, probably with other pirates just as much as with marines. A lot of blood was spilled, and after some time, after lot of fighting, 4 of the pirates rose over the others, and took control over most of the New World.
I'm guessing Whitebeard lost some men in the fighting after Roger's death.

 

[kal-elh]

Re: What Happened to WB Original Crew

I really don't think that roger ruled anything

I think that people started calling him Pirate King cuz he did the impossible, well he traveled around the gloge something that had never been done before.

and I think that they were different types of pirates

I don't realy see WB with a small crew, well maebe smaler but not like Ruffy's

 

[Razh]

Re: What Happened to WB Original Crew

Ups, did I say that?

...

Wait, I didn't say that Roger ruled anything.

What I said was that pirates fought some time after Roger's death, and the 4 of them rose above the others, each of them ruling part of the New World, WG calling them Yonkou because of that.

Also, when I was comparing Whitebeard with Luffy, I wasn't comparing the size of the crew, just to make it clear.

 

[kal-elh]

Re: What Happened to WB Original Crew

Chill

AND about the thread name I've got no Idea of how to change that.

 

[monkey D luffy]

Re: What Happened to WB Original Crew

razh i said that roger ruled the seas.
kal-elh try editing your first post.

also another thing taht might have happened:
seeing how one of the yonkous is a former jolly roger pirate i think that after roger died people thought to themselves that they want the title of pirate king next and defected (probably with WB's permission cuz if not their dead) to create their own crews. and as i said before some of the original crew are still here, seeing what their DF is it is possible that they are even older then WB himself.

 

[Razh]

Re: What Happened to WB Original Crew

Chill

AND about the thread name I've got no Idea of how to change that.

Mods do that. It doesn't really matter, just a suggestion.

And yeah, it's also quite possible that some of WB's crewmen decided to go on their own.

 

[Finale]

Re: What Happened to WB Original Crew

They did say that the title of 2nd division commander has been missing for a while. Maybe he/she got killed in battle.

 

[nalex94]

Re: What Happened to WB Original Crew

I think that all of the other crews that joined in the war were old crewmates of WB and leftto make a crew of there own

 

[kal-elh]

regarding the second division captain seat I think it belonged to Mihawk

(WB sait to Shanks that he remembers his duels with Mihawk - to me it implies that he was on his crew oderwise how could he have seen that it's not like there is a place for those to take place while people hang around to watch and enjoy the fight )

 

[BetaRuler]

shoooting ur theory down Kal, imo i dont think Mihawke has really ever seen WB before.
1st the way they tested eachother, Mihawke Id expect wouldnt need to test WB if he'd ever seen WB in action before.
2nd they didn't exchange any words between eachother of familiarity.
This shanks and mihawke duel must have been quite a legend that made widespread news for the whole world to know about or something, like it might have decimated an area up like Black Beards vs Aces fight.

Also that pirate king stuff, didn't Rayleigh say that Rogers only got the Pirate King title when he was about to die? Sounded to me like it was a title they put on his death bed, he didn't really LIVE as the pirate king, but he's remembered as a pirate king.

Edit
On topic tho, maybe nothing ever did happen to WB's crew mates, Im gathering your using examples like Rayleigh to judge how old other pirates from Rogers days would look, but maybe Rayleigh was old even for Rogers crew, if rookies from Rogers days are ones like Shanks and Buggy, Mihawke maybe, perhaps Crocodile, even Moria and Kuma, Sengoku, and none of them look all too old.
Maybe most of the division captains are original crewmates and Whitebeard took them all in young, I mean he's quite big on his "children" theme.
Whitebeard might just be unhealthy, and Sengoku doesn't look that old.

 

[kal-elh]

He just says that he wants to know how far beheind he realy is.

 

[goldb]

On the issue of WB Pirates and former crewmates, division captains, I think it's just as Razh said, a number of things could have happened to them.

I think the likes of Marco and Joz have been around WB for a few decades since they both look well into their 30s.

 

[kal-elh]

Yes but WB is well into his 70th ish I mean the guy is old really old

so I'm talking about the original crew the ones that first joined him wouldn't call him pops

 

[BlackHair]

Yes but WB is well into his 70th ish I mean the guy is old really old

Aren' u putting his age a bit too high? 22 Years ago he was "probabaly" in his prime fighting Roger. So if he was at that time around his late 30s then I would say his current age is now around his late 50s or at most his early 60s. But not more.

Im also interested in his early crew. I guess they are either dead, retired or separated from WB. Also Im supporting the Idea that Mwk was once a crewmate of him.

 

[kkck]

Aren' u putting his age a bit too high? 22 Years ago he was "probabaly" in his prime fighting Roger. So if he was at that time around his late 30s then I would say his current age is now around his late 50s or at most his early 60s. But not more.

Im also interested in his early crew. I guess they are either dead, retired or separated from WB. Also Im supporting the Idea that Mwk was once a crewmate of him.

I'd actually think WB is about 70.... Specially assuming he was roger's age. Take a look at this:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/506/09/

If roger was a rookie brook can remember, then roger was already a pirate over 50 years ago. A rookies age can vary as we have seen with the supernova so when roger was a rookie he was at around 18-35 years old. Roger and WB could be anywhere between 68 and 85 years old.

 

[Razh]

It's possible that Whitebeard was somewhat younger than Roger. It was never stated anywhere that they became pirates at a same time, just that they were rivals.

You know, I wonder if Whitebeard isn't dying from some disease too. Those machines could be used to prolong his life. I don't think a guy like him would just die before he was ready. Maybe he's waiting for something.
Anyway, this option would allow Whitebeard to die without actually losing to someone.

 

[goldb]

Yep, I like the idea. Yeah it seems a lot of us( including me) forget that maybe they weren't the same age. Either one of the two could have been older than the other.

PS: Do you think that Garp looked older that Roger during the flashback??

I really do hope we get more information/flashbaccks into Roger, Garp, Sengoku or WB's pasts that could explain how the previous era, and maybe Crocus or Brook could elaborate on the "Roger the rookie" topic.

 

[ANBU4U]

Aren' u putting his age a bit too high? 22 Years ago he was "probabaly" in his prime fighting Roger. So if he was at that time around his late 30s then I would say his current age is now around his late 50s or at most his early 60s. But not more.

Im also interested in his early crew. I guess they are either dead, retired or separated from WB. Also Im supporting the Idea that Mwk was once a crewmate of him.

I absolutely think Mihawk was once in Whitebeards crew...its the only thing that makes sense in context with Shanks' and Whitebeard's conversation.

As for the rest of Whitebeards old-timers (as the likes of Shanks/Mihawk/Blackbeard were still kids in that era) who knows. Whitebeards crew is so huge they may well have retired somewhere "safe" in the New World as soon as they were no longer needed. I would Imagine the infamous crewmen of the Yonkou have that option if their captains really do control large swaths of territory.

Then again maybe they ARE still there, and have simply been surpassed by the young guns, so they aren't shown much.

....Oh and on a final note...it occurs to me that Marco could actually be an old-timer of sorts. He's not the age we're looking for persay(WB, Raleigh, Shakie) but rather around Shanks/Mihawk/Buggy/Blackbeards age....
Worth noting I think.

Im not sure about Joz. He feels younger for some reason.