WB Pirates Discussion Thread

[kkck]

I would think BB is somewhere between middle 40's and middle 50s.... He does not look anywhere close to 30 IMHO.

 

[BlackHair]

Well it's a manga. Shakky looks like 25 even though she is 40+. I don't think we can actually rate someone's age by look. That's why I tried it with comparison to other characters. But it is impossible after all. We have to wait for Oda's statement.

Shouldn't be BB's age printed in his datebook profile? Edit: Apparently not.

 

[Samui]

Well it's a manga. Shakky looks like 25 even though she is 40+. I don't think we can actually rate someone's age by look. That's why I tried it with comparison to other characters. But it is impossible after all. We have to wait for Oda's statement.

Shouldn't be BB's age printed in his datebook profile? Edit: Apparently not.

You better say Shakky is over 60 years old, because she quited being a Pirate 40 years ago, and that's when Garp chased after her. She can't be 50 years old, because that would make her too young 40 years ago, so she must be aroud 65.

 

[BlackHair]

I was saying 40+. That "+" includes 65 as well. Garp was chasing Shakky 40 years ago. So it's only natural that she must be older than 40.

 

[wildgunz89]

man i want to know WHO IS WB FIRST MATE. dont tell me marco liek everyone does because everytime he is mentioned they say 1st division commander or whatever that is not a 1st mate does anyone know if heh as a 1st mate?????marco is too young btw i think he is more like a "if i die i leave you in charge" kinda position.

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oh and to add to the age discussion being a pirate makes you look rough and look older take that into consideration ( ex. basketball greg oden=21 google him if anything 2 years in the league.NFL brett favre 39??? 13 years of soo he looks about 50.) my point is your occupation makes you look older or younger . that is why i say bb is probably about 34-38 at best shanks age marco 30 at most lets not let that stubble and sleepy look fool us. jozu..battle hardened i say same age as shanks. my 2 cents.

 

[chess4]

man i want to know WHO IS WB FIRST MATE. dont tell me marco liek everyone does because everytime he is mentioned they say 1st division commander or whatever that is not a 1st mate does anyone know if heh as a 1st mate?????marco is too young btw i think he is more like a "if i die i leave you in charge" kinda position.
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oh and to add to the age discussion being a pirate makes you look rough and look older take that into consideration ( ex. basketball greg oden=21 google him if anything 2 years in the league.NFL brett favre 39??? 13 years of soo he looks about 50.) my point is your occupation makes you look older or younger . that is why i say bb is probably about 34-38 at best shanks age marco 30 at most lets not let that stubble and sleepy look fool us. jozu..battle hardened i say same age as shanks. my 2 cents.

shanks is 37. i would assume mihawk, marco and jozu are around the same age if not older. i think marco is the 1st mate. he has been standing by WB for most of the fight, and if someone else was his 1st mate this battle would be the time to reveal him.

 

[kkck]

I don't think WB has a definite or absolute first mate. He has 16 divisions and each is lead by a extremely powerful pirate. I would think each commander stands equal in terms of strength and rank to each other(except for WB). At most the only thing that would deferentiate a commanders rank form each other would seem to be seniority but that is by no means official. I guess saying marco is the first mate would be somewhat accurate given everything though.

 

[chess4]

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/552/04-05/

the guys in the upper right hand picture next to WB are some of his other commanders

 

[ZenoArmani]

I read the WB pirates' strength index as generally deciding the order of the commanders, rather than strategic intellect, since some of them don't seem too bright. (Presumably WB makes most of the strategic decisions with help from Marco and non-frontline advisors) Hence Marco, who has the rarest form of DF and is able to fight Kizaru without breaking a sweat is the strongest; Ace, who has a logia/the second strongest from of DF, is the second; Joz, who has the strongest mineral fruit along with immense strength, and is powerful enough to withstand Mihawk's swings or fight two Shishibukai at once is the third; someone I don't remember the fourth; and the master swordsman who fights Mihawk the fifth.

Btw: Which division did the oversized giant lead?

 

[Razh]

Which division did the oversized giant lead?

Oars wasn't a division leader. He has his own pirate crew. You can see his ship on the link. The biggest one that has Oars written on it's top sail next to an Oars-like skull.

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/551/12-13/

 

[Samui]

Those are Whitebeard's commanders:

Spoiler

 

[chess4]

Those are Whitebeard's commanders:

Spoiler

my boy................great pic. you hit the nail on the head. thats them im sure the other 3 have been shown as well, but we just havent pick them out

 

[Samui]

my boy................great pic. you hit the nail on the head. thats them im sure the other 3 have been shown as well, but we just havent pick them out

Oh, I didn't make that picture. Someone on AP made it. But yeah, it IS a great pic.
And maybe the other 3 commanders are the smaller ones we can see on one of the pages, where the commanders are coming out of the ship.

 

[Dice]

Aren't there to many commanders? I thought it would only be 16. Or is someone of them actually one of the shadows and number 8 wasn't included in this picture at first but as it stands there are 17....
But anyway good picture.

 

[Samui]

Aren't there to many commanders? I thought it would only be 16. Or is someone of them actually one of the shadows and number 8 wasn't included in this picture at first but as it stands there are 17....
But anyway good picture.

No, the fishman just wasn't included in that picture. There ARE 16 commanders.

 

[Poneglyph420]

Awesome pic for sure. Do we know for sure how many Commanders there are? I don't remember ever finding that out in the Manga....

If anyone knows I'd be thankful.

But totally think that "chick" in the kimono is a dude...

 

[Samui]

Awesome pic for sure. Do we know for sure how many Commanders there are? I don't remember ever finding that out in the Manga....

If anyone knows I'd be thankful.

But totally think that "chick" in the kimono is a dude...

There are 16 commanders and 1600 men in Whitebeard's fleet. It wasn't said in the databook, but by Oda himself in the SBS if I remember correct and in the databooks.

And what chick in Kimono?

 

[Poneglyph420]

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/553/08-09/

The "woman" in the kimono holding a gun at the bottom of the above page..

If you have a link to your source I'd be appreciative.
Not that that sounds wrong but, sources are always nice.

Also with the loss of Thatch we also have a loss at #4.

It will be interesting to see how the commanders handle the up coming PX attack...
Can they survive, prob most...but maybe not all of them...

 

[Samui]

Oh, you're talking about her. You can barely see her clothes, so I didn't understand about who you were talking about.

And I'll try to find the SBS for you. In the meanwhile, you can just go to One Piece wikia. It's pretty reliable source.

 

[kkck]

There is something I have been wondering for a while and reading through the chapters I think I figured it out. Hancock was a shichibukai basically to protect her people from the WG. Ever since vegapunk developed the technology to navigate the calm belt, the kuja lost the natural protection they lost from it. In other words the island became a big target. An organized attack from the marines would have without question erradicated the kuja. They just needed a decent number of marines along with a high level marine to take boa. In a way, not even a high level marine was needed, just an organized attack where the kuja population would be diminished significantly. For that even a few battleships would suffice. Hell, just a buster call would do the job and they won't even have to worry about hancock. Just take the island when they know hancock is there or when she is far away. All in all, if the WB wanted to erradicate the kuja island, they could do so with little trouble. Specially considering they have only one ship... Boa could probably take out a few battleships or even ifght on par with very high level marines such as VA or admirals but she is the only among the kuja capable of that. Her two sisters are strong but only about comparable to measly rookies such as the supernova. Not even close to the strength they would require to become a significant threat to a marine attack.

Boa is little by little getting into a place where the marines will notice her betrayal. She doesn't even care about it. So how would the kuja protect themselves for the WG? They clearly could not stand up to the marines with just one boat and 1 noteworthy fighter. All in all, boa would require extra help to protect the island.

What I think is that the kuja will at some point become an ally of the WB pirates. Everyone in her crew is very capable of using haki meaning that every member there has the potential to kill an admiral even with something as simple as an arrow(I am not saying they are all admiral level, simply that they have the potential to hurt logia users). WB is powerful enough to provide the kuja with the necessary protection to stop the marines in the same way WB's protection helped the merman island. At least I think there is a very real possibility this will happen in the future.