WB Pirates Discussion Thread

[Razh]

Speaking of Kuya, I believe that their island is defended by some animals too. We've seen that jaguar and the sea serpents. I don't think that it would be that easy for the Marines.

As for your prediction, I've been thinking about it for a long time. Fact is, everyone will have to choose sides after this battle is over. I can't imagine Hancock staying with WG nor can I imagine Amazons sticking with it if something happens to her. If they do ally with someone, it will either be pirates or revolutionaries.

 

[kkck]

The animals would help very little against a marine battleship or a buster call though. They can't even take someone as small, weak and insignificant as luffy(obviously comparing luffy to the strong guys around).... All in all I am inclined to believe the kuja would b mostly defenceless against the WG considering their situation. The kuja's as a crew are strong, I doubt even a number of battleships could take them out without a fight but the island is above all things a big target ready to be taken out by a buster call.

I do think an alliance with the revolutionaries is vastly unlikely. They are significantly different from pirates and I am inclined to believe they would not even approve of such a thing(although dragon had no problem with luffy being a pirate). If boa's treason is found out, the most likely outcome is an alliance with the WB pirates IMO. I mean, even if WB dies a crew with that many people capable of fighting on par with admirals and shichibukai should be feared. And that is just the big shots there, who knows how many rookie level people they have(in other words comparable to the supernova and a few mid level marines). Rockstar seemed to be somewhat of the supernova class(the guy had a 94 mil bounty and the WB pirates could not possibly care less about him) and he was barely a rookie at shanks crew, I would think WB would have a decent number of members like that.

 

[Razh]

The animals would help very little against a marine battleship or a buster call though. They can't even take someone as small, weak and insignificant as luffy(obviously comparing luffy to the strong guys around)....

I was talking more about those sea serpents man. The ones that could pierce the hull of the ship or poison the crew. There could even be some sea king protectors.
I wonder if Haki enables Kuja to communicate with the animals. But, that's a question for a different thread.

 

[Poneglyph420]

Unless someone steps in to help Kuja they could have problems if Boa is found to be disloyal... But I doubt this has anything to do with WB.
He's gonna have a boatload of other problems if he can get out of Marineford alive..

I'd like to see Luffy and Co. do something to save A.L. He did promise he would bring his crew back...and that would make for a great chance.

But back to WB..

Hope he does something soon, or he's in for trouble.....

 

[Bugzee]

I think someone already said it, but i agree anyway! lol

I also think WB original crew consists of some if not all the squad captains, marco and jozu off course! and slowly built on that foundation!

 

[hdiuy]

Didn't read all the post so im not sure if this was brought up. But i want to believe that WB still has his nakama from the old days somewhere in this world. I just can't believe that all of his nakama are dead. I really want to know who his first mate etc is.

 

[kkck]

I think someone already said it, but i agree anyway! lol

I also think WB original crew consists of some if not all the squad captains, marco and jozu off course! and slowly built on that foundation!

That is unlikely IMHO. WB is much older than most people in his crew. I doubt anyone in the actually was a part of WB original crew specially considering most of his commanders seem at least 30 years younger than WB.

 

[Bugzee]

Some of the Squad captains are really old lookin! Well, it would be cool if Oda gave us like a flashback or something about WB's past as a whole!

 

[Black Lagoon]

yes, they are old but still quite powerful, although I guess the supernovas will take their place when time comes.

 

[k-dom]

From chapter 0, it seems that the main captains haven't change much in 20 years...

 

[ZenoArmani]

Yeah, in chapter 0 from 20 years ago, we can see Joz, Vista, Blackbeard, and either Marco or Thatch in the background, but Whitebeard was pretty old even back then. Marco has a Phoenix fruit that may slow down his aging a lot so he could have been even longer with Whitebeard and still look fairly young.

 

[Truefan21]

So BB has been in WB crew for 20 years but how and when did he give shanks those scars

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

So BB has been in WB crew for 20 years but how and when did he give shanks those scars

What is sure is that Shanks got his car between the Ed war and his coming in Fushia Town.

 

[bittman]

What is sure is that Shanks got his car between the Ed war and his coming in Fushia Town.

Oda even skillfully hid Shanks' face during Roger's execution, meaning we don't even know if it was a part of his normal service with the pirate king.

But on the division captains age: I see all this "Where's Whitebeard's original nakama?" And think of two arguments. Firstly, please guess the age of most of the division captains. With chapter 0 now shown, you can easily pin Marco, Joz and Vista as 40 year olds, if not more. Most of the division captains in fact don't look younger than 30, some easily pushing 50.

Secondly: What's to say this isn't the original crew for Whitebeard? Let's say Whitebeard started late as a pirate? What's also not to say that he didn't serve as an underling to another pirate before for a long time and then branched out later to make his own crew? Shanks did that, but he just started at a young age.

I doubt we'll see anything like an "original Whitebeard member", if even a flashback of Whitebeard's beginnings. He appeared old 20 years ago, he appears even older now. At the same time what's to say he started young like Luffy or Shanks?

 

[madmotoristmonk]

i find myself inclined to agree with bittman, however...

we're talking about a setting where people may look thier age i.e. crocus, rayliegh, garp

and then we have those who don't look their (assumed age, proposed age) age i.e. shakky, dr. kureha, aokiji (although his devil fruit may have something to do with that)

 

[urlaub]

Well WBs men could have always been killed by that funny looking guy who handles a psitol and a sword and does it ever so cutely.

 

[Dice]

I reread chapter 552 (this time on onemange) and noticed that Ace became the leader of the second division because they lacked a second division commander.

That means two things:
First there has been a strong person who was the second commander some time ago. If this person is still alive is unclear (if this person is still alive I guess we definitely will hear who was the second before). Furthermore it means that Ace is not necessarily the second strongest after Whitebeard since he's only filling a gap.

If that has already been discussed just ignore it

 

[Razh]

I reread chapter 552 (this time on onemange) and noticed that Ace became the leader of the second division because they lacked a second division commander.

Can't believe it. I was reading the same chapter earlier today and I intended to raise the question about the former 2nd division commander here.
Talk about synchronicity.

The person could have died, or maybe retired. There are a lot of possibilities. It is also possible that it's not really that important, but I don't think so.

 

[Fox666]

I guess Whitebears is 65 and his crew members 45. That would put Marco and Jozu 25 at the Flashback and Whitebeard 45.

Would make sense for me. Whitebeard would only have become a Yonkou later. Shanks is also not that young (37). It may take a long time to conquer a crew like those.

Hmm, was it implied during Whitebeard and Shanks that Mihawk was from Whitebeard crew? That possible. If that's so, he could be the former 2nd commander.

 

[Razh]

I guess Whitebears is 65 and his crew members 45. That would put Marco and Jozu 25 at the Flashback and Whitebeard 45.

Would make sense for me. Whitebeard would only have become a Yonkou later. Shanks is also not that young (37). It may take a long time to conquer a crew like those.

Hmm, was it implied during Whitebeard and Shanks that Mihawk was from Whitebeard crew? That possible. If that's so, he could be the former 2nd commander.

I don't think Shanks is younger than Marco. At least not that much.
Whitebeard only said that he heard of the duel between Shanks and Mihawk. If Mihawk was a Whitebeard pirate he probably left a while ago. Judging from Whitebeard's speech, the duel happened after Mihawk already left his crew (that's assuming Mihawk was a Whitebeard pirate). If Mihawk was in his crew at that time, he probably wouldn't just say that he heard about it.
That would have been more than 10 years ago, because around 10 years ago Shanks lost an arm. If Mihawk was a 2nd squad captain, then the post would have been empty for quite a long time. It's a slim chance the way I see it.

Plus, the way Mihawk spoke when he was about to slash at Whitebeard doesn't point to some past connection. I don't think he would talk like that if he was a member of the crew. Not much was said in the short exchange against Vista. Vista was even surprised that Mihawk heard of him.

Anyway, all that by itself still doesn't remove the possibility that Mihawk was Whitebeard pirate long ago. But it does remove the possibility that he was the former 2nd squad commander. Unless it's totally believable that the spot was left open for years.