Match Weekly Match-up thread (Fuji vs Seda)

[Hardy]

ROUND IS OVER

Spoiler: Winner

Mares de Colón

34th Round:

We are back and with one Math's suggestions. Can Fuji stand a chance against Spain's troublemaker?

Picture	Fuji Hardy Jan 15, 2024	Seda Hardy May 13, 2024
Name	Fuji Shuusuke	Seda
Title	Genius	Troublemaker
Rank	No. 9 (MSer Year 3)	Spain Representative (MSer Year 1)
Height	167cm	-
Weight	53 kg	-
Dominant Hand	Right	Right (Ambidextrous?)
Playstyle	Counter puncher	-
Stat Total	18	?
Speed	3	?
Power	3	?
Stamina	3	?
Mental	4	?
Technique	5	?
Techniques / Styles	Phoenix Return (1st+) Kirin Drop (2nd+) White Dragon (3rd+) Dragonfly Illusion (4th) Gate Keeper of Hecatoncheires (5th) Star Fireworks (6th) Closed Eyes Hollyhock Blizzard Light Wind Kitsune Fireball	Reverse Copy Olympian Iris' Light

Fuji's 10.5 profile.

Fuji's 23.5 profile.

Fuji's Tenipuri Party profile.

Zeus' 23.5 profile

"I'm not listing Seda's hypnosis since he seemingly stopped using it and it can be countered with freaking ear plugs.

...tho, for all intents and purposes, he can play aggressively as he did against Japan."

Will add a poll on Wednesday.

 

[Hardy]

Poll is up!

I think Seda can probably copy most of Fuji's skills except for his Light Wind, a buff that would make him outmatched from the get-go just like against TnK Kintarou who, in turn, was worse than Ryoma back then.

However, the Rainbow Aura should still work, it was somewhat working against a stupidly strong Kin. If it doesn't or if Fuji finds a way to nullify it, then I think the Japanese has got this, but otherwise this is Seda's game.

Even if Fuji's tennis is unpredictable, so was Ohmagari's vs Yanagi, and he still couldn't fight head-on against Seda once he unlocked the Olympian Iris' Light.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Poll is up!

I think Seda can probably copy most of Fuji's skills except for his Light Wind, a buff that would make him outmatched from the get-go just like against TnK Kintarou who, in turn, was worse than Ryoma back then.

However, the Rainbow Aura should still work, it was somewhat working against a stupidly strong Kin. If it doesn't or if Fuji finds a way to nullify it, then I think the Japanese has got this, but otherwise this is Seda's game.

Even if Fuji's tennis is unpredictable, so was Ohmagari's vs Yanagi, and he still couldn't fight head-on against Seda once he unlocked the Olympian Iris' Light.

The Rainbow Aura Olympian Iris light is so weird to judge and scale.

It mentioned to be a 99% chance of somehow winning the point despite not looking like it. (Pace control)

But a simple bottle cap trick can counter it.
(Another topic on how hard is that. Because somehow Ohmagari and Kin cannot do the same dexterity trick Tane used)

I am not sure Fuji can or cant do it.

As for Reverse Copy,

I don't know the limit. But I am assuming he is like Kise from Kuroko No Basket, where he can copy moves unless his body cannot handle it.

Yeah, I still give this to Sedah.

 

[Hardy]

The Rainbow Aura Olympian Iris light is so weird to judge and scale.

It mentioned to be a 99% chance of somehow winning the point despite not looking like it. (Pace control)

But a simple bottle cap trick can counter it.
(Another topic on how hard is that. Because somehow Ohmagari and Kin cannot do the same dexterity trick Tane used)

I am not sure Fuji can or cant do it.

As for Reverse Copy,

I don't know the limit. But I am assuming he is like Kise from Kuroko No Basket, where he can copy moves unless his body cannot handle it.

Yeah, I still give this to Sedah.

No, the 99% thing was Inui calculating the odds of that one shot going in. The bottle cap only worked because of Tanegashima's absurd control and Zeus even said or at least implied it wouldn't work again. It seemingly wasn't a factor in Spain's match and Kin just powered through (whereas Ohmagari only scored in the points he attacked Mares).

Kabaji can copy any move as long as it doesn't require a special property in your body... but that includes auras, and Seda couldn't copy TnK, which is why I think he probably cannot copy Fuji's Light Wind (a more abstract move).

Seda is very unique, there's a chance he can actually go beyond the limits of his body unlike Kabaji (like, maybe he wasn't ambidextrous until his match against Ohmagari). The reverse aspect of it may nullify the move you are facing; he may have nullified Kin's Power by reversing his Smash.

 

[-Ken-]

I put Fuji around same level as Ryoma, albeit slightly stronger. I do not think current Ryoma can wipe Ohmagari/Kintarou pair 6-0, which Seda literally just did (And this is something even Tanegashima fail to do, although Shiraishi is a lot weaker than Mares. Not sure about Pre-white flame Mares strength though). Not to mention Seda seem to be pretty much a Singles player before this match as well. I'll give it to Seda. Seda's feat rather on the insane side.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

I put Fuji around same level as Ryoma, albeit slightly stronger. I do not think current Ryoma can wipe Ohmagari/Kintarou pair 6-0, which Seda literally just did (And this is something even Tanegashima fail to do, although Shiraishi is a lot weaker than Mares. Not sure about Pre-white flame Mares strength though). Not to mention Seda seem to be pretty much a Singles player before this match as well. I'll give it to Seda. Seda's feat rather on the insane side.

Yep, the rainbow aura is really the key here.

I think It will gain a lot of points against Fuji before the Genius can counter. But at that point, Sedah will just use reversal in every technique Fuji use.

 

[Ganonslayer101]

Yep, the rainbow aura is really the key here.

I think It will gain a lot of points against Fuji before the Genius can counter. But at that point, Sedah will just use reversal in every technique Fuji use.

To be fair, you can only Reverse about half the counters. You can't use Reverse Higuma on Higuma because it's not a smash. Etc..
Still, Rainbow Aura is broken AF so Seda wins. Just winning 99% of rallies because "pace" is all you really need. Kin needed to be just massively above him for it not to trigger

 

[mathematicianrcg]

To be fair, you can only Reverse about half the counters. You can't use Reverse Higuma on Higuma because it's not a smash. Etc..
Still, Rainbow Aura is broken AF so Seda wins. Just winning 99% of rallies because "pace" is all you really need. Kin needed to be just massively above him for it not to trigger

Hmm, Lets analyze one by one

Tsubame Gaeshi can easily be reversed

Reverse Higuma cant be use against Higuma. But can be used against Fuji's Smash

Hakugei/Hakuryu. I think it is tough. But Seda can react to it.

4th counter Kagero Zetsumi. I think is easily reversable.

5th counter (Gatekeeper) where the opponent's return will be forced to make the ball to hit to the net unless you hit a cord ball.in which 6th Counter comes in.

I am not sure Seda can use reversal.

 

[Ganonslayer101]

Hmm, Lets analyze one by one

Tsubame Gaeshi can easily be reversed

Reverse Higuma cant be use against Higuma. But can be used against Fuji's Smash

Hakugei/Hakuryu. I think it is tough. But Seda can react to it.

4th counter Kagero Zetsumi. I think is easily reversable.

5th counter (Gatekeeper) where the opponent's return will be forced to make the ball to hit to the net unless you hit a cord ball.in which 6th Counter comes in.

I am not sure Seda can use reversal.

Did we ever see Seda just use a Reverse. I thought it was always in reaction. Like he only uses Reverse Mountain Storm if Kin used it first.

I know he used Reverse Nitoryyu but Ohmagari is always using it so who knows.

If I'm wrong (probably am) that Hecatoncheries is maybe the only counter just because it's highly technical. Hollyhock should be simple. Radiant Gale shouldn't be because it's not something he can see. Foxfire Ball is up in the air. But if he can copy Hecatoncheries than he can probably do Fireball

 

[mathematicianrcg]

i suggest a doubles matchup using Mares/Seda


Mares/Seda VS Doubles Pro
Mares/Seda VS Bismarck/Siegfried
Mares/Seda VS Tristan/Timothe