Publisher Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings (2009-2015)

[yela]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Sorry, but Bleach and Reborn are the big fujoshi series. HQ has it's fan girls, but Bleach and Reborn are pillars of the doujin community. Naruto too, but there is not a new volume this month.

Indeed Bleach isn't one of the Shonen Jump series with a lot of yaoi doujins. The series with more doujinshis are Gintama, Reborn, One Piece, Naruto, Kuroko no basket and Prince of Tennis. You can see the doujinshi that are being sold on Yahoo Japan auctions here and which are the popular series. Those series have around 5000 or more (Gintama even 9000) doujinshis on sale. Bleach only has around 1000, which is a pretty normal quantity despite that Bleach has been one of the most popular series these years, but strangely hasn't so many doujinshi like people could think.

 

[Teeba]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Would it be correct to say that "otome" is closer in meaning to "otaku"? Very dedicated female fans, but without any real BL/yaoi connotations?

Yes, literally speaking you could define "otome" equivalent to "otaku". But unfortunately, the terms are not used the same way. The term otaku can be used to suggest a fanaticism for anything, but the words otome and fujoshi are given specific meanings that are meant to separate the two groups, as if they can't be reconciled. After all, its the otaku fans that gave fujoshi the nickname "rotten girl". At the same time many otaku enjoy yuri and GL without needing to define themselves as different from the rest. Its kind of a double standard. But yeah, otaku and otome are the closest thing to equivalents.

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Indeed Bleach isn't one of the Shonen Jump series with a lot of yaoi doujins. The series with more doujinshis are Gintama, Reborn, One Piece, Naruto, Kuroko no basket and Prince of Tennis. You can see the doujinshi that are being sold on Yahoo Japan auctions here and which are the popular series. Those series have around 5000 or more (Gintama even 9000) doujinshis on sale. Bleach only has around 1000, which is a pretty normal quantity despite that Bleach has been one of the most popular series these years, but strangely hasn't so many doujinshi like people could think.

I think Bleach in general has a fandom going into decline, hence even though the amount of yaoi doujinshi is extra-ordinary, it's still low compared to other similarly popular fandoms.

Gintama seems to have a more well-rounded fandom though. Like, Naruto and Kuroko have strong niche fandoms found in fujoshi, specificially, but Gintama has a large amount of doujinshi that isn't BL-based either.

I had no clue about Yahoo Auctions. To have over 9000 doujinshi auctions going on....that's insane. And its all stuff that's already been bought that people are willing to resell. How long as Gintama being running for? That's like, an output of around 1000 doujinhi per year.

 

[Baseballbat Boy]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

I think Bleach in general has a fandom going into decline, hence even though the amount of yaoi doujinshi is extra-ordinary, it's still low compared to other similarly popular fandoms.

Hardly. Bleach never had a high amount of yaoi stuff.

 

[xi0]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Hardly. Bleach never had a high amount of yaoi stuff.

And when exactly has that ever stopped circles from making yaoi doujinshi...?

 

[XwellS]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

March 11th ~ March 17th (Credits for Negative Syndicate)

01. One Piece #69 (298,509 / 2,545,649)
02. Yotsuba to! #12 (264,216 / 520,321)
03. Chihayafuru #20 (227,605)
04. Mix #2 (226,590)
05. Ahiru no Sora #37 (131,013)
06. Daiya no Ace #35 (89,995)
07. Ansatsu Kyoushitsu #3 (76,200 / 453,678)
08. Kuragehime #11 (74,173)
09. Bleach #58 (71,615 / 503,811)
10. Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo 20th Year Anniversary Series #4 (65,388)
11. Sakamoto Desuga? #1 (59,207 / 263,852)
12. Area no Kishi #35 (52,533)
13. Katekyou Hitman Reborn! #42 (50,204 / 308,731)
14. 7 Seeds #24 (49,287 / 100,680)
15. Nurarihyon no Mago #25 (39,635 / 227,676)
16. Kimi no iru Machi #22 (38,765)
17. Beelzebub #19 (33,603 / 181,079)
18. Haikyuu!! #5 (33,519 / 199,790)
19. Nisekoi #6 (28,449 / 160,640)
20. Seito Shokun! Saishuushou・Tabitachi #7 (27,262)
21. Kyou wa Kaisha Yasumimasu。#3 (26,683 / 239,27)
22. Terra Formars #4 (25,520 / 257,488)
23. Dear Brother! #1 (25,208 / 46,247)
24. Gakuen Babysitters #7 (23,888 / 107,688)
25. Yowamushi Pedal #27 (23,814 / 59,318)
26. Ansatsu Kyoushitsu #1 (23,454 / 708,343)
27. Oremonogatari!! #3 (23,418 / 229,514)
28. Michi to no Souguu (23,201 / 40,792)
29. Ansatsu Kyoushitsu #2 (22,973 / 606,075)
30. Hakaijuu #9 (22,417 / 43,358)
31. Uchuu Kyoudai #20 (22,098 / 375,935)
32. Drop OG #5 (21,664 / 42,383)
33. Ultraman #2 (21,443 / 83,902)
34. Ohkini Kanjani ∞!! #4 (21,395)
35. Kinnikuman #42 (21,252 / 113,713)
36. Magi #16 (20,839 / 435,783)
37. Akagami no Shirayukihime #9 (21,039)
38. Shinjuku Swan #35 (20,061 / 69,639)
39. I Am A Hero #11 (18,717 / 144,795)
40. Terra Formars #1 (18,587 / 388,123)
41. One Piece #68 (18,570 / 2,941,326)
42. Hana no Miyako de (18,341 / 29,041)
43. Kirara no Hoshi #8 (18,124)
44. Vassalord. #7 (17,963)
45. Omamori Himari #11 (17,821 / 45,030)
46. Doubutsu no Kuni #11 (17,772 / 35,998)
47. Neko Mix Genki-tan Toraji #6 (17,761 / 38,235)
48. Tobaku Haouden Zero Gyanki-hen #7 (17,437)
49. Mix #1 (17,266 / 394,907)
50. Terra Formars #2 (17,167 / 370,540)

 

[MattC302]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Hmm...Doubutsu no Kuni 11 seems to have sold a couple thousands less in its second week compared to vol. 10's second week...not ideal, but whatever. The story seems to be climaxing anyway, so I doubt they will cancel it. Not that 40,000 is necessarily cancel worthy for that magazine.

Sakamoto Desuga? seems to be pretty popular. Those look like good sales for a first volume Fellows!/Harta series. I just recently discovered it myself.

Several other series I like on the list. It's always nice to see your favs do well

 

[DraMas26]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

March 11th ~ March 17th (Credits for Negative Syndicate)

01. One Piece #69 (298,509 / 2,545,649)
02. Yotsuba to! #12 (264,216 / 520,321)
03. Chihayafuru #20 (227,605)
04. Mix #2 (226,590)
05. Ahiru no Sora #37 (131,013)
06. Daiya no Ace #35 (89,995)
07. Ansatsu Kyoushitsu #3 (76,200 / 453,678)
08. Kuragehime #11 (74,173)
09. Bleach #58 (71,615 / 503,811)
10. Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo 20th Year Anniversary Series #4 (65,388)
11. Sakamoto Desuga? #1 (59,207 / 263,852)
12. Area no Kishi #35 (52,533)
13. Katekyou Hitman Reborn! #42 (50,204 / 308,731)
14. 7 Seeds #24 (49,287 / 100,680)
15. Nurarihyon no Mago #25 (39,635 / 227,676)
16. Kimi no iru Machi #22 (38,765)
17. Beelzebub #19 (33,603 / 181,079)
18. Haikyuu!! #5 (33,519 / 199,790)
19. Nisekoi #6 (28,449 / 160,640)
20. Seito Shokun! Saishuushou・Tabitachi #7 (27,262)
21. Kyou wa Kaisha Yasumimasu。#3 (26,683 / 239,27)
22. Terra Formars #4 (25,520 / 257,488)
23. Dear Brother! #1 (25,208 / 46,247)
24. Gakuen Babysitters #7 (23,888 / 107,688)
25. Yowamushi Pedal #27 (23,814 / 59,318)
26. Ansatsu Kyoushitsu #1 (23,454 / 708,343)
27. Oremonogatari!! #3 (23,418 / 229,514)
28. Michi to no Souguu (23,201 / 40,792)
29. Ansatsu Kyoushitsu #2 (22,973 / 606,075)
30. Hakaijuu #9 (22,417 / 43,358)
31. Uchuu Kyoudai #20 (22,098 / 375,935)
32. Drop OG #5 (21,664 / 42,383)
33. Ultraman #2 (21,443 / 83,902)
34. Ohkini Kanjani ∞!! #4 (21,395)
35. Kinnikuman #42 (21,252 / 113,713)
36. Magi #16 (20,839 / 435,783)
37. Akagami no Shirayukihime #9 (21,039)
38. Shinjuku Swan #35 (20,061 / 69,639)
39. I Am A Hero #11 (18,717 / 144,795)
40. Terra Formars #1 (18,587 / 388,123)
41. One Piece #68 (18,570 / 2,941,326)
42. Hana no Miyako de (18,341 / 29,041)
43. Kirara no Hoshi #8 (18,124)
44. Vassalord. #7 (17,963)
45. Omamori Himari #11 (17,821 / 45,030)
46. Doubutsu no Kuni #11 (17,772 / 35,998)
47. Neko Mix Genki-tan Toraji #6 (17,761 / 38,235)
48. Tobaku Haouden Zero Gyanki-hen #7 (17,437)
49. Mix #1 (17,266 / 394,907)
50. Terra Formars #2 (17,167 / 370,540)

Source?

 

[Heiji]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Source?

Oricon lol

 

[DraMas26]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

^I meant direct link to the source i.e. where on oricon?

The link in the first post didn'thave the top 50 list when I checked.

 

[Heiji]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

http://kohada.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ymag/1362838329/802

 

[yela]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

I think Bleach in general has a fandom going into decline, hence even though the amount of yaoi doujinshi is extra-ordinary, it's still low compared to other similarly popular fandoms.

Gintama seems to have a more well-rounded fandom though. Like, Naruto and Kuroko have strong niche fandoms found in fujoshi, specificially, but Gintama has a large amount of doujinshi that isn't BL-based either.

I had no clue about Yahoo Auctions. To have over 9000 doujinshi auctions going on....that's insane. And its all stuff that's already been bought that people are willing to resell. How long as Gintama being running for? That's like, an output of around 1000 doujinhi per year.

I've been following Yahoo auctions since 2007 because I've bought many doujinshis there and Bleach never had many doujinshis compared to those other series. Reborn's general popularity has been in decline too, but it's still one of the series with more doujinshis.
Although it's true that now there are less Bleach doujinshis than before. Before could have around 2500 doujinshis on sale on its peak, but Bleach never had the quantity of the most popular series. The doujinshis with hetero pairings are many too in Bleach.

In almost every fandom, the yaoi pairings are by far the biggest part of the doujinshis. Gintama probably has many doujinshis with hetero pairings because, in proportion, Gintama has A LOT of doujinshis, but the biggest part are yaoi doujinshis too.

And when exactly has that ever stopped circles from making yaoi doujinshi...?

Yes xD.
Indeed I don't understand what makes a series more appealing for yaoi fans or why certain pairings are so popular. Because sometimes is too weird. For example, the most popular pairing in Naruto is KakashixIruka, when they have hardly interact. And I don't think that Naruto characters (their design in the manga) are especially attractive.

 

[XwellS]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

March 18th ~ March 24th (Credits for Negative Syndicate)

01. Drifters #3 (271,577 / 271,887)
02. Skip・Beat! #32 (204,413)
03. Gantz #36 (147,752)
04. One Piece #69 (126,326 / 2,671,975)
05. Ahiru no Sora #37 (102,023 / 233,036)
06. Hayate no Gotoku! #36 (101,425 / 102,074)
07. Daiya no Ace #35 (88,109 / 178,104)
08. Chihayafuru #20 (87,566 / 315,171)
09. Gakuen Alice #29 (71,263)
10. Boku o Tsutsumu Tsuki no Hikari -Boku Tama Jisedai-hen- #12 (67,955)
11. Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo 20th Year Anniversary Series #4 (67,127 / 132,515)
12. Bakaramon #7 (66,770)
13. Mix #2 (66,271 / 292,861)
14. Billy Bat #11 (65,988)
15. Yotsuba to! #12 (64,186 / 584,507)
16. Sakamoto Desuga? #1 (56,099 / 319,951)
17. Area no Kishi #35 (50,848 / 103,381)
18. Ansatsu Kyoushitsu #3 (46,504 / 500,182)
19. Hayate no Gotoku! Limited Edition #36 (41,841 / 58,698)
20. Beshari Gurashi #15 (41,739)
21. Kimi no iru Machi #22 (38,680 / 77,445)
22. Fantasista Stella #2 (38,092)
23. Kuragehime #11 (36,461 / 110,634)
24. Be Blues!～Ao ni Nare～ #9 (36,329)
25. Yondemasuyo, Azazel-san。#9 (34,624)
26. Bleach #58 (31,689 / 535,500)
27. Seiyuu kaa! #12 (30,887)
28. Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu #8 (28,916)
29. 81 Diver #29 (28,510)
30. Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu #18 (28,403)
31. Shuumatsu no Laughter (27,156)
32. Arata Kangatari #18 (26,086)
33. Kunisaki Izumo no Jijou #13 (25,705)
34. Ousama no Shitateya～Sartorina・Napoletana～ #3 (23,707)
35. Ansatsu Kyoushitsu #1 (22,819 / 731,162)
36. Kugure! Kokkuri-san #4 (22,046)
37. Katekyou Hitman Reborn! #42 (21,936 / 330,667)
38. Ansatsu Kyoushitsu #2 (21,707 / 627,782)
39. Saijou no Meii～The・King・Of・Neet～ #13 (21,625 / 21,820)
40. Exoskull Zero #4 (21,404)
41. Kidou Senshi Gundam MSV-R Johnny・Raiden no Kikan #6 (20,936)
42. Vassalord. #7 (20,707 / 38,670)
43. Cesare Hakai no Souzousha #10 (20,353)
44. Convini Tenshi -Fujimoto Yuuki Short Work Collection- (19,860)
45. Kidou Senshi Z Gundam Define #5 (19,840)
46. Choujikuu Macross The First #5 (19,782)
47. Oremonogatari!! #3 (19,536 / 249,050)
48. Itoshi no Muuko #3 (19,292)
49. Jaja #16 (18,924)
50. Tobaku Haouden Zero Gyanki-hen #7 (18,697 / 36,134)

 

[Asgaroth]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

and now assassin classroom surpasses bleach, nearing naruto and is on its long (rather short) way to become a cult hilt like deathnote.

 

[meeedoooz]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Bleach seems to be in trouble

 

[101nemesis]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Bleach seems to be in trouble

Why so?

 

[Nemesis]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Gantz in top. FTW

 

[Asgaroth]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

more likely is that toriko is in trouble to get the top3 spot. kinda funny to see luffy, naruto with tentacles... or maybe know we see more heroines on the jumo cover xD

 

[meeedoooz]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Why so?

this volume doesn't look like it would reach 600K, i really really hope i'm wrong

 

[xi0]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

There's no set "Big 3" structure to Jump...that's something created online to refer to the highest selling titles in Jump at that time. But obviously things have surpassed Bleach at times. Something outselling Bleach has everything to do with a decline in popularity, not some sort of competition in the market from other Jump titles.

 

[Kaiten]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Volume sales declined because of the Fullbring arc, at the same Bleach was consistently ranking in (or near) the bottom five. TOC rankings recovered, sales never really did. It is not as though selling over 500,000 copies of every volume is a bad thing. Bleach still is one of the top selling manga. It's not as if Bleach sold as well as One Piece or Naruto in the first place.