Publisher Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings (2009-2015)

[arsg]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

If post-anime drops happen it's not unheard of for them to happen immediately after the anime ends, that's how it happened to Reborn.

Magi had tons of momentum though. It was outselling Conan regularly and its last volume sold almost 600k before dropping out of top 50. Hopefully the bubble hasn't burst quite yet.

 

[Kaiten]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

If post-anime drops happen it's not unheard of for them to happen immediately after the anime ends, that's how it happened to Reborn.

But first week sales didn't drop. It didn't do anything remotely of the sort. First week sales are the same as always.

Volume 17: 227,244 copies
Volume 18: 311,414 Copies
Volume 19: 218,893 Copies
Volume 20: 269,671
Volume 21: 238,886 Copies.

Let me see if understand this correctly: Because the anime ended less than three weeks ago, volume 21 sales have declined despite being only 30,000 copies lower than the previous volume, and higher than volume 17 and 19. Volume sales are declining despite selling within it's normal range, and enough to reach it's normal total sales average of about 550 - 600,000 copies. Basically Magi is in decline despite being exactly the same as always, outselling several recent volumes, and being on track to reach the exact same sales total it always reaches. Is that about right?

Magi had tons of momentum though. It was outselling Conan regularly and its last volume sold almost 600k before dropping out of top 50. Hopefully the bubble hasn't burst quite yet.

Detective Conan Volume 79: 296,934
Volume 80: 291,054
Volume 81: 318,642
Volume 82: 237,459
Volume 83: 266,073

Over the same period, first week sales of Conan and Magi are very similar. Conan actually has a slight edge. Conan #83 selling only 27,187 copies more than Magi #21 in their first week is completely meaningless. Total sales per volume of Magi are typically a little higher than Conan, but never much.

 

[arsg]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Well, I was talking about long-term sales, rather than week 1 sales. Starting its first week lower than Conan means it will most likely leave the chart lower than Conan, unless Conan's chart run is especially front loaded this time around. Assuming that's how things play out, that represents a change of pace for the series. Also, there is no need to be snide.

 

[Akai]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Since we all know that AOT will be the series with most total sales in the first half of 2014 (And OP volume 74 the most sold individual volume), I was interested in asking the sales experts here which series do you think will be no 2? Will it be OP? But Oda released only one volume in this period because of his breaks so I'm not sure if OP will be no 2 or lower?

 

[Kaiten]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Well, I was talking about long-term sales, rather than week 1 sales. Starting its first week lower than Conan means it will most likely leave the chart lower than Conan, unless Conan's chart run is especially front loaded this time around. Assuming that's how things play out, that represents a change of pace for the series. Also, there is no need to be snide.

If week one sales are the same as always, what would lead you to the conclusion that long term sales would decline? First week sales for volume 17 were lower than volume 23. Volume 17 was still Magi's top seller in 2013. How could you judge long term sales for volume 23, anyway, with only one week available? First week sales for Conan are frequently higher than Magi's, as the links provided in my last post demonstrate. It doesn't really mean anything. It has already been demonstrated that first week sales for Magi #23 are within the same range as previous volumes. Conan is not necessary as a measuring stick. As the top selling volumes of 2013 demonstrates, per volume sales of both series are very close, nearly identical. Magi outsells Conan, but not by very much. Magi's bestselling volume only sold 9,183 copies more than Conan's bestselling volume. The difference in sales is marginal. Conan ranking two places ahead of Magi holds no meaning. With Magi selling to average, the difference between first and third out of fifty, and a mere 27,187 copies, is of no significance.

 

[SharkBait]

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Since we all know that AOT will be the series with most total sales in the first half of 2014 (And OP volume 74 the most sold individual volume), I was interested in asking the sales experts here which series do you think will be no 2? Will it be OP? But Oda released only one volume in this period because of his breaks so I'm not sure if OP will be no 2 or lower?

Since they typically count from mid nov to mid may, its probably tough to say unless the jump manga releasing next week or so are known?

Last year (first half) had
1One Piece
2Magi
3Kurobas
4Attack on Titan

One Piece could be argued to be number 2, as its sales of its volume released in Nov 2013, would have had its sales split by the date they would end counting, so it could probably still get 4mln or so sales and be number 2. Kurobas or Magi most likely will remain in the top four.

 

[TXC]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Next month we have kurobas, naruto, gintama, nisekoi, ac, bleach (The rest won't sell much)

 

[arsg]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

If week one sales are the same as always, what would lead you to the conclusion that long term sales would decline? First week sales for volume 17 were lower than volume 23. Volume 17 was still Magi's top seller in 2013. How could you judge long term sales for volume 23, anyway, with only one week available? First week sales for Conan are frequently higher than Magi's, as the links provided in my last post demonstrate. It doesn't really mean anything. It has already been demonstrated that first week sales for Magi #23 are within the same range as previous volumes. Conan is not necessary as a measuring stick. As the top selling volumes of 2013 demonstrates, per volume sales of both series are very close, nearly identical. Magi outsells Conan, but not by very much. Magi's bestselling volume only sold 9,183 copies more than Conan's bestselling volume. The difference in sales is marginal. Conan ranking two places ahead of Magi holds no meaning. With Magi selling to average, the difference between first and third out of fifty, and a mere 27,187 copies, is of no significance.

Conan 82 and Magi 20 both released on the same day, and Magi beat it. In the exact same scenario, Magi should have beaten it again unless either it is dropping in popularity or Conan is rising, or if there is some promotion going on I'm not aware of.

I don't like to use those yearly lists to compare volume sales, because the date of release is too big a variable. I prefer to use weekly Oricon figures for this purpose. That said it is interesting that Conan ends up so close to Magi in the long run, it must hold really well even after falling off the chart.

 

[TXC]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

In the daily rankings site, Magi second week is clearly beating conan so the situation will reverse this week.

 

[SharkBait]

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I think its better to be selling more in the long run then to try to claim which one is selling the more copies over some short period of time. At the end of the day no one really cares which one sold fastest, but which one sold the most. The fastest selling manga of four weeks isnt really meaningful data.

 

[arsg]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

I think its better to be selling more in the long run then to try to claim which one is selling the more copies over some short period of time. At the end of the day no one really cares which one sold fastest, but which one sold the most. The fastest selling manga of four weeks isnt really meaningful data.

The yearly charts don't really show which sold most either though (well, okay, One Piece and Titan ), because the data is so heavily skewed towards earlier releases. Looking at weekly sales isn't a perfect system but everything is on more-or-less equal footing with it.

In the daily rankings site, Magi second week is clearly beating conan so the situation will reverse this week.

I'm happy to hear that, I didn't know there were daily rankings, sounds interesting, do you have a link?

 

[SharkBait]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

The yearly charts don't really show which sold most either though (well, okay, One Piece and Titan ), because the data is so heavily skewed towards earlier releases. Looking at weekly sales isn't a perfect system but everything is on more-or-less equal footing with it.

What do you mean, they are comparing volume sales of two manga that released on the same day to make the claim that one is selling less than its volumes usually do. How would using the sales of these two volumes end of the year not be useful?

 

[TXC]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Here http://shosekiranking.blog.fc2.com/

 

[Kaizou 10]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Manga
*1.　195,299　*,434,185　Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic Vol.21
*2.　165,333　*,165,333　Giant Killing Vol.31
*3.　155,848　*,155,848　xxxHOLiC: Rei Vol.2
*4.　127,109　*,393,182　Detective Conan Vol.83
*5.　111,357　*,269,183　Kingdom Vol.34
*6.　109,033　1,499,670　Shingeki no Kyojin Vol.13
*7.　*85,565　*,*85,565　Billy Bat Vol.14
*8.　*85,111　*,199,075　Tokyo Ghoul Vol.11
*9.　*77,442　*,*77,442　Hibi Chouchou Vol.7
10.　*69,100　*,224,411　Nanatsu no Taizai Vol.8

11.　*55,671　*,*55,671　Horimiya Vol.5
12.　*51,829　*,*51,829　Honey Vol.4
13.　*50,130　*,*50,130　Mune ga Naru no wa Kimi no Sei Vol.4
14.　*47,861　*,*47,861　Gurazeni Vol.14
15.　*46,351　*,334,072　Chihayafuru Vol.24
16.　*45,790　*,*45,790　Takasugi-san Chi no Obentou Vol.8
17.　*42,315　*,*42,315　Kokoro Button Vol.12
18.　*41,147　*,*41,147　Mairunovich Vol.11
19.　*39,776　*,*84,170　Love So Life Vol.14
20.　*39,729　*,*39,729　Aozora Yell Vol.15

21.　*38,313　*,*38,313　Mushishi Tokubetsu-hen: Hihamukage
22.　*37,474　*,*83,295　Oresama Teacher Vol.18
23.　*35,667　*,*35,667　Ato nimo Saki nimo Kimi dake Vol.7
24.　*35,242　*,102,368　Shura no Mon: Dai Ni Mon Vol.12
25.　*35,063　*,*35,063　Kantai Collection -Kan Colle- Comic a la Carte: Maizuru Chinjufu-hen Vol.4
26.　*33,160　*,*74,609　Rozen Maiden[/url] Vol.10
27.　*32,724　*,332,948　Haikyuu!! Vol.10
28.　*32,686　*,*32,686　Kantai Collection -Kan Colle- Dengeki Comic Anthology: Sasebo Chinjufu-hen Vol.3
29.　*31,853　*,*31,853　Karneval Vol.13
30.　*31,428　*,*31,428　Spotted Flower Vol.1

31.　*31,071　*,*31,071　True Love Vol.4
32.　*30,676　*,*30,676　Pandora Hearts Vol.22
33.　*30,223　*,*94,999　Ballroom e Youkoso Vol.6
34.　*29,494　*,*68,479　Akatsuki no Yona Vol.14
35.　*29,451　*,*29,451　Hyouge Mono Vol.18
36.　*29,156　*,882,459　Kimi ni Todoke Vol.21
37.　*29,010　*,169,702　Ookami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji Vol.9
38.　*27,450　*,*27,450　Hyouka Vol.6
39.　*27,373　*,*27,373　Akai Ito Vol.5
40.　*27,052　*,*27,052　Dame na Watashi ni Koi Shite Kudasai Vol.3

41.　*26,689　*,*61,646　Minamoto-kun Monogatari Vol.5
42.　*25,970　*,*25,970　Usotsuki Lily Vol.15
43.　*25,434　*,*25,434　1F - Fukushima Daiichi Genshiryoku Hatsudensho Annaiki Vol.1
44.　*25,349　*,*25,349　Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha INNOCENT Vol.3
45.　*25,112　*,*40,353　Ikusa no Ko - Oda Saburou Nobunaga Den Vol.5
46.　*24,269　*,206,655　Arslan Senki Vol.1
47.　*23,571　*,*62,692　Aho Girl Vol.3
48.　*23,486　*,194,371　Youkai Watch Vol.3
49.　*22,817　*,*52,955　Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii Vol.7
50.　*20,991　*,476,015　Haikyuu!! Vol.1

Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1162801#vuAkqzRppuLrkePk.99

Credit to Snow from MLA

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Finally you're back but the way that you always post the rankings is better than this.

Anyway, Holic Rei sales still surprise me, and go Haikyuu!

 

[Kaiten]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Oricon Light Novel Rankings

*1.　46,349　*46,349　Hidan no Aria Vol.17
*2.　45,631　*45,631　IS: Infinite Stratos Vol.9
*3.　36,257　*36,257　No Game No Life Vol.6
*4.　28,453　103,781　Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Vol.9
*5.　27,827　254,338　Sword Art Online Vol.14
*6.　27,340　*27,340　Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance Vol.13
*7.　22,813　*22,813　****** Ouji to Warawanai Neko. Vol.8
*8.　20,324　*60,635　Youkai Apartment no Yuuga na Nichijou Vol.10
*9.　16,852　*33,448　Tokyo Ravens Vol.11
10.　16,768　*16,768　Seikoku no Dragonar Vol.15

11.　16,268　293,292　Kagerou Days Vol.5
12.　16,197　*30,636　Oda Nobuna no Yabou Vol.11 National Edition
13.　13,310　*13,310　Hachi-nan tte, Sore wa Nai desho! Vol.1
14.　13,131　142,008　Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Vol.13
15.　11,893　*56,150　No Game No Life Vol.1
16.　11,753　160,814　Coffee-ten Talleran Jikenbo Vol.3
17.　11,207　*52,737　No Game No Life Vol.2
18.　10,918　*10,918　Magika no Kenshi to Vasreus Vol.5
19.　10,075　*46,334　No Game No Life Vol.3
20.　*9,670　*21,007　Gate: Jietai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakeri Gaiden Vol.3

21.　*9,421　158,960　Monogatari Series: Final Season "Owarimonogatari" Vol.3
22.　*9,315　326,193　Manga de Wakaru Nanatsu no Shuukan
23.　*8,669　*60,202　No Game No Life Vol.5
24.　*8,622　*46,738　No Game No Life Vol.4
25.　*8,572　**8,572　Knights & Magic Vol.4
26.　*8,474　560,649　Kagerou Days Vol.1
27.　*7,719　**7,719　Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru! Vol.1
28.　*7,679　**7,679　Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari Vol.5
29.　*7,664　*16,795　Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata Vol.6
30.　*7,535　264,909　Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Vol.1

31.　*7,503　232,310　Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Vol.2
32.　*7,437　*11,942　Detective Conan Vol.18 "Ijigen no Sougekishu"
33.　*7,324　**7,324　Youkian Yawa: Ningyo wo Kurau Mono
34.　*5,442　**6,342　Sekai Seifuku: Bouryaku no Zvezda - Kuroboshi Kohaku Design Works

Source

 

[Kaizou 10]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Finally you're back but the way that you always post the rankings is better than this.

Well, it going to take time to write it in my own way, and someone else going to just copy and paste that one.

That means I don't have to write it in my way; unless people are willing to way until I can write it in my way.

 

[SharkBait]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Less Mahouka and Haikyuu!! than last week, though at least No Game No Life new volume is showing good life.

 

[Kaizou 10]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

Manga
*1.　444,725　*,444,725　Naruto Vol.69
*2.　325,657　*,325,657　Kuroko no Basket Vol.27
*3.　301,967　*,301,967　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.9
*4.　228,154　*,228,154　Bleach Vol.63
*5.　157,211　*,157,211　One Punch-Man Vol.6
*6.　147,428　*,147,428　Nisekoi Vol.12
*7.　132,742　*,132,742　Gintama Vol.54
*8.　*84,380　*,140,051　Horimiya Vol.5
*9.　*79,944　*,*79,944　Owari no Seraph Vol.5
10.　*79,090　*,243,357　Shingeki no Kyojin: Kuinaki Sentaku Vol.1

11.　*78,126　1,577,796　Shingeki no Kyojin Vol.13
12.　*73,911　*,229,759　xxxHOLiC: Rei Vol.2
13.　*73,232　*,507,417　Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic Vol.21
14.　*62,606　*,227,939　Giant Killing Vol.31
15.　*61,956　*,*61,956　Kangoku Gakuen Vol.13
16.　*61,882　*,139,324　Hibi Chouchou Vol.7
17.　*53,526　*,*84,202　Pandora Hearts Vol.22
18.　*52,706　*,445,888　Detective Conan Vol.83
19.　*42,849　*,*83,996　Mairunovich Vol.11
20.　*41,023　*,*92,852　Honey Vol.4

21.　*39,215　*,*89,345　Mune ga Naru no wa Kimi no Sei Vol.4
22.　*39,038　*,*78,767　Aozora Yell Vol.15
23.　*36,325　*,121,890　Billy Bat Vol.14
24.　*35,688　*,*35,688　Rosario to Vampire: Season II Vol.14
25.　*34,928　*,*77,243　Kokoro Button Vol.12
26.　*34,226　*,303,409　Kingdom Vol.34
27.　*33,122　*,*68,789　Ato nimo Saki nimo Kimi dake Vol.7
28.　*32,961　*,365,909　Haikyuu!! Vol.10
29.　*31,220　*,230,295　Tokyo Ghoul Vol.11
30.　*30,479　*,*30,479　Blood Lad Vol.11

31.　*27,826　*,*27,826　Mogura no Uta Vol.40
32.　*27,089　*,*53,059　Usotsuki Lily Vol.15
33.　*26,578　*,250,989　Nanatsu no Taizai Vol.8
34.　*25,922　*,220,293　Youkai Watch Vol.3
35.　*25,811　*,*57,664　Karneval Vol.13
36.　*25,629　*,*25,629　Isobe Isobee Monogatari - Ukiyo wa Tsurai yo Vol.2
37.　*25,472　*,501,487　Haikyuu!! Vol.1
38.　*25,120　*,483,508　Haikyuu!! Vol.2
39.　*25,107　*,359,179　Chihayafuru Vol.24
40.　*24,818　*,469,234　Haikyuu!! Vol.3

41.　*24,531　*,*55,602　True Love Vol.4
42.　*24,445　*,*24,445　Ateya no Tsubaki Vol.9
43.　*24,290　*,*49,724　1F - Fukushima Daiichi Genshiryoku Hatsudensho Annaiki Vol.1
44.　*23,675　*,*50,727　Dame na Watashi ni Koi Shite Kudasai Vol.3
45.　*23,259　*,*23,259　Uso Kano Vol.3
46.　*22,900　*,*50,273　Akai Ito Vol.5
47.　*22,708　*,458,854　Haikyuu!! Vol.4
48.　*21,825　*,*79,985　Ginga Patrol Jako
49.　*21,804　*,436,894　Haikyuu!! Vol.5
50.　*21,652　2,793,426　One Piece Vol.73

Credit to Snow from MAL

 

[SharkBait]

Re: Weekly Oricon Comic Rankings

I assume only a few days were counted, regardless, Seraph of the End continuing to go strong, and visibly, Haikyuu!! adding another 100K this week.