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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Naruto getting #1 is nice to see, very nice (even tho One Piece is missing, so..XD). At last it beat Toriko, doesn't happen THAT often anymore.
i actually don't know what TOC you've been following ... since issue 1 of this year Naruto took the first place 4 times... the same number of times as one piece and twice the number of toriko i guess :D
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

i actually don't know what TOC you've been following either since in the 8 issues where they can be compared toriko beat naruto 5 times. Not counting the fact it had one more lead color...
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Oricon Ranking 13th-19th :

1-One piece #65 : 176.950 / 2.729.671
9-Naruto #59 : 65.065 / 946.792
17-Gintama #43 : 39.277 / 369.023
21-Toriko #18 : 35.495 / 353.555
28-Nura' #20 : 28.858 / 255.062
 
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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

i actually don't know what TOC you've been following either since in the 8 issues where they can be compared toriko beat naruto 5 times. Not counting the fact it had one more lead color...
as always you have to disagree on whatever is said :D. but no problem...

naruto taking the first place 4 times and toriko only twice and you still call whom ever takes 2nd or 3rd " where they can be compared " ?!! look at issue 3-4 where toriko is 5th!! or by your bizarre counting 6th :D

i don't want to compare a manga being pumped up over the reputation and popularity of one piece so it can fill the large void Naruto is leaving ( and it wont :D ) to Naruto.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

What are you talking about when I even made the effort to use your way of counting. There are 8 issues out of the 11 where neither Toriko nor Naruto have color pages. In these 8 issues toriko is before naruto 5 times whatever counting method you use.
And my counting is not bizarre, you just don't understand it.
I stopped reading Naruto so I can not tell its quality at the moment but the casino arc from Toriko was really entertaining and it seems Jump readers liked it too.
 
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One Piece vs Naruto rankings

(12/05)
Bakuman (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece 1
Toriko 2
Naruto 3

(12/12)
Toriko (Lead Color Page)
Naruto 1
One Piece 2

(12/14)
Naruto (Lead CP)
Gintama 1
One Piece 2

(1/02)
Luffy + Other protagonists (Cover)
One Piece (Lead CP)
Naruto 1

(01/16)
Kuroko no Basket (Lead CP)
One Piece 1
Gintama (Cover)
Toriko 2
Naruto 3

(01/23)
Sket Dance (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece 1
Toriko 2
Naruto 3

(1/30)
Toriko (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece 1
Gintama 2
Bakuman (CP)
Naruto 3

(02/06)
Bakuman (Cover, Lead CP)
Toriko 1
One Piece 2
Naruto 3

(02/13)
Bleach (Cover, Lead CP)
Naruto 1
One Piece 2

(02/20)
HQ!! (Cover & Lead CP, New Series)
Toriko 1
One Piece 2
Naruto 3
One Piece:
1st: 4
2nd: 5
3rd: 0

Naruto:
1st: 3
2nd: 0
3rd: 6

Seems like the statistics rule for One Piece with a better top 3 placement in the last ten issues.
 
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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

What are you talking about when I even made the effort to use your way of counting. There are 8 issues out of the 11 where neither Toriko nor Naruto have color pages. In these 8 issues toriko is before naruto 5 times whatever counting method you use.
And my counting is not bizarre, you just don't understand it.
I stopped reading Naruto so I can not tell its quality at the moment but the casino arc from Toriko was really entertaining and it seems Jump readers liked it too.
From my understanding that guy is only comparing them by how often they were in 1st place...where Naruto did indeed beat Toriko. But Toriko has been above Naruto more times then not so yeah.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

lol so much spite to read through as of late.

Jump #13 (27/02) :
Pajama na Kanojo by Hamada Kosuke (Cover & Lead Color Page, New Series, 54 pg.)
Naruto
Toriko
Bleach
Sket Dance
Beelzebub
Hq!! (Color Page, 25 pg.)
Gintama
Reborn! (Color Page)
Nisekoi
Bakuman
Kurogane
Genson! Kodai Seibutsu-shi Pakky
Medaka Box (Color Page)
Inumaru Dashi
Kuroko no Basket
Kochikame
Nurarihyon no Mago
Magico
Hunter x Hunter
ST&RS
One Piece (Absent)

#14:
Lead CP: Sket Dance
CP: Bleach, Pajama na Kanojo, Kuroko no Basket
Will fully enjoy that Medaka color whenever I see it.

Nice to see Sket Dance shoot up to #4. Only recently getting caught up on whats been scanlated and things have really been improving quality-wise so I'm really curious about some of the more recent chapters that have been released. Great that it will be getting lead cp next week.

Hunter x Hunter definitely looks like it will be out of the door again if Togashi going back to scribbles are anything to go by. If that is the case, that will make it and St&rs easy to peg next round.

Maybe now that Kurogane hasn't suffered a collapse just yet I'll give it a read sometime soon.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Hunter x Hunter is definitely going on hiatus soon. Chapter 337 looks like it was drawn by a five year-old.
I actually think that's a good sign that the chapter drawings are not perfect. He hasn't drawn like that since early '06 before the 20 month hiatus. He'd always fix the drawings for the volume releases so it never bothered me that much. I'd much rather have more chapters like this then another break.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Some people saying that Hunter x Hunter will be going to hiatus soon because Togashi drew badly on recent chapter. I also think he might go to hiatus soon; but I think there is another reason for drawing poorly. On the author's comment, Togashi said that he is in fact infected by an influenza, so he is in poor physical condition right now. So, I think that's why Togashi drew poorly because he's in bad physical condition right now.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2


Thoooough that just says it's ending it's run in the 6pm slot. It could just move to like Thursday or something. Still, good for them if they actually go through with this. (Something I doubt.)

---------- Post added at 09:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:27 AM ----------

Some people saying that Hunter x Hunter will be going to hiatus soon because Togashi drew badly on recent chapter. I also think he might go to hiatus soon; but I think there is another reason for drawing poorly. On the author's comment, Togashi said that he is in fact infected by an influenza, so he is in poor physical condition right now. So, I think that's why Togashi drew poorly because he's in bad physical condition right now.
Either way he's been at it for a longer amount of time than usual, and as sad as it is that we hold him to a different standard than the other mangaka in Jump it's good he at least beat his old records even if it's only slightly this time. I do hope he'll be back this year, since I'd really love to own Vol 31 too.

Gintama was also full of art problems this week. Though Sorachi says he's working on something else so that might explain it.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Jump Issue #13 Cover (Pajama Girl)

 
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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Too vague to pull something definite from it. Liker Bomber said it could be easily interpreted as Bleach moving from it's current day and timeslot. Anything else would be highly unlikely. The Bleach anime is a cash cow. They're on top of the manga, but that only means they need to put in several seasons worth of fillers to increase the gap significantly. I would be really surprised if they ended the anime prematurely.
 

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It's funny but I found Togashi minimal style quite interesting. In some place it even gives the impression that it was made on purpose. It will be interesting to read the chapter with the final drawing but it may loose a bit of its atmosphere.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Too vague to pull something definite from it. Liker Bomber said it could be easily interpreted as Bleach moving from it's current day and timeslot. Anything else would be highly unlikely. The Bleach anime is a cash cow. They're on top of the manga, but that only means they need to put in several seasons worth of fillers to increase the gap significantly. I would be really surprised if they ended the anime prematurely.
I wouldn't say so much that the franchise is a 'cash cow'. It is drawing in a profit, true, but outside of the movie releases Bleach DVDs don't pull that many numbers. Which for most Jump anime doesn't seem to matter. To them what does matter is ratings and manga sales. Not surprisingly, Bleach has been in a decline -not surprisingly because it's a friggin' 10 year old series. One piece is really the only manga that MORE people read the longer it goes on. Most of the time a series hits a plateau of loyal readers and people begin to drop off as it continues. The Bleach ratings have been passable to allow the series to chug along, and the manga sales have been good too. I seriously doubt they'd let it drop off at this point, but if they were it wouldn't be too extreme to believe it's because there just isn't a demand to keep the series sustained via fillers until there's more material to adapt from the source. With Medaka and Kuroko both getting animated, Naruto and One piece more than primed to keep on going, Hunter X Hunter's ratings being as excellent as they are not to mention having more than enough material to run a few years, and Sket's (and Gintama's?) nebulous fate, it may just be a collective decision for Bleach to end until it has enough material from this final (har) arc to continue it's anime.

Of course I'm already anticipating the announcement from ANN or something that reads 'Bleach taking over XXX's spot on XXXday starting in April', cause dude it's probably gonna happen like that.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

If Bleach were changing timeslots it would have been announced already. It has already been announced that the Rock Lee spin off from Saikyou Jump is replacing Bleach.
 
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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

@Kaiten: I have made a Thread about the end here
 

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The first chapter of Pajama na Kanojo looks pretty decent and the artwork is definitely very good. This series kind of feel like going to be a shonen version of Baka to Boin.
 

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Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 2

Baka to Boing was a horrible manga. For Pajama no Kanojo's sake I hope the similarities are merely superficial.
 
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