Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2011 - 2012] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[juUnior]

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WoW <not the game xd>, I'm surprised how low OP's new arc is now viewed.. though I'm not shocked, many, many fans believe the current arc its really, really, hmm, boring? Still, I'm surprised a little bit at HOW low it is viewed.

 

[Bomber D Rufi]

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Uh not really. From what I know, Most japan netizens have been constant haters of op since before and most of them really like naruto.
They find op generic..and they are the same people who are huge fans of vns, moe stuff etc(do I need to mention the otaku/neet population?). To put it short, they don't really care about jump series..at least a majority of jump series. On the other hand the people who actually vote for the ToC is not made up netizens, the netizens really make a small group of voters. Kurogane hate seems to be from the fact that the author is not so popular online..and maybe it not so brilliant story, I'm not sure because I'm not up to date.
I don't have any source to what I said, just my 2 cents.
Also I don't find the current op arc bad at all. It's not the best but it's good esp when I look at the larger picture oda is trying to show.

Lulz, so using the audeince angle and taking it to it's logical conclusion...would the only reason why HXH is so high with the net otaku be that Alluka is extremely moe? (Despite being really scary?)

In all seriousness, yeah. One piece is pretty much anti most things that are popular in anime and manga nowadays, and mostly the types who like the anime produced in large quanities frequent 2ch. This poll thing is a good way to kill some time, as long as people realize this is only the opinion of a very small minority and not reflective of any sort of official polling number.

 

[shezar]

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Naruto that high...,i would put it in last,so much waste in this war,last time i got some kind of emotion out of it was with certain clam guy,best the war had to offer so far (few laughs with him).Disagree with most of the poll,but its funny that Kochikame and Gintama are almost always in middle,its like a predilect spot for gag mangas (in bakuman i think they say something similiar).
Hmm 4 of them i didnt read them yet (Inumaru dashi, ST&RS,Kuroko no basket and Nurarihyon no Mago).Oh well i barely pay attention to the polls,most are bit useless.

 

[Asgaroth]

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sorry but in my opinion one piece's recent arc is so bad that i think about stop reading it and wait a year...

i'm also warching nuras second anime season and must say, i see why its so unpopular. not because its bad, but the theme isn't suited for japanese, they like more colorful things and funny ones like op, but nura is dark und bloody, which isn't favoured by young ones.

 

[meeedoooz]

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that poll makes a lot of sense ... the last few chapters of HXH are really wonderful especially the last one... i think it will take a place in the top 5 when it's ranked ( i hope it takes the first place )...

as for naruto the last 10 chapters or so have been Great and it deserves the 1st place most of the times like it did...

agree with what you guys said about one piece... the arc isn't that good, i actually stopped reading it until this arc if finished

 

[[Cross]]

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I guess opinions differ, I've really enjoyed the current arc so far. Anyway, while that poll isn't much to go by, it is interesting to see how our internet counterparts see things.

 

[Kaiten]

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^Exactly, I am not drawing profound conclusions from a 2ch poll. I've spent enough time at the interweb not to take anything that originates from 2ch or 4chan very seriously. But it is fun seeing how their taste reflects, or does not reflect, my taste.

Personally I think since Naruto and Bee returned Naruto has been pretty good, not great, not at a series high but pretty good. One Piece has not been great by OP standards but is still better than most anything else, especially most anything else Jump (seriously, it's Jump not Afternoon or Big Comic Spirits ). While slightly flat by series standards the Fishman Island arc still has a depth of storytelling and depth rarely seen in other manga. Even at their best lesser lights such as Magico could never dream of the thoughtful, intelligent discourse on cross-generational intolerance, anger, persecution, and fanaticism underlying the Fishman Island arc. The only manga in Jump with the same depth of story telling is Hunter x Hunter. Comparing anything else to those two, even when they are not quite at their best, is simply unfair.

 

[Zeromcd]

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The Oneshot "Welcome to the Competitive Dance Club" published in Issue #46 has received a fantastic reception throughout the Japanese internet and even the author of One Piece himself commented on it being amazing (actually word used) in the end of Jump general author comments page.

Lots of people were saddened to hear that after Dance Club was published, the author was announced to serialise a news series in Monthly Young Magazine Issue #1 released on December 19th (Preview Image ->HERE<-)

Because Monthly Young Magazine is published by Kodansha many people have lost the hope they had of Dance Club being published.

Oda's comment about Dance Club being amazing has raised some eyebrows as the comment was made after it was already announced the author was beggining his new series in Young Magazine.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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The Oneshot "Welcome to the Competitive Dance Club" published in Issue #46 has received a fantastic reception throughout the Japanese internet and even the author of One Piece himself commented on it being amazing (actually word used) in the end of Jump general author comments page.

Lots of people were saddened to hear that after Dance Club was published, the author was announced to serialise a news series in Monthly Young Magazine Issue #1 released on December 19th (Preview Image ->HERE<-)

Because Monthly Young Magazine is published by Kodansha many people have lost the hope they had of Dance Club being published.

Oda's comment about Dance Club being amazing has raised some eyebrows as the comment was made after it was already announced the author was beggining his new series in Young Magazine.

The author of "Welcome to the Competitive Dance Club" has gotten many interests to readers because the author is well known for making many web mangas.

Yokoda Takuma, the author of one shot, created Onanii Master Kurosawa, Chikan Otoko, and Tsunbaka under the name "Yoko." That's why there were many interests on his one shot.

It is kind of weird since he expressed he wanted to work under Jump and he come close to it. But, he ended starting his first serialization in different mangazine (however, a new series is manga-adaptation of novel, so it is not his original story).

 

[Oberon]

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Preview Jump #51:



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It seems that Kochikame will really have two chapters, one with the Lead CP and the other with a Color Page.
As laid down in ToC, CP will go to Bleach and Kurogane.

 

[meeedoooz]

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^Exactly, I am not drawing profound conclusions from a 2ch poll. I've spent enough time at the interweb not to take anything that originates from 2ch or 4chan very seriously. But it is fun seeing how their taste reflects, or does not reflect, my taste.

Personally I think since Naruto and Bee returned Naruto has been pretty good, not great, not at a series high but pretty good. One Piece has not been great by OP standards but is still better than most anything else, especially most anything else Jump (seriously, it's Jump not Afternoon or Big Comic Spirits ). While slightly flat by series standards the Fishman Island arc still has a depth of storytelling and depth rarely seen in other manga. Even at their best lesser lights such as Magico could never dream of the thoughtful, intelligent discourse on cross-generational intolerance, anger, persecution, and fanaticism underlying the Fishman Island arc. The only manga in Jump with the same depth of story telling is Hunter x Hunter. Comparing anything else to those two, even when they are not quite at their best, is simply unfair.

wow opinions do differ... hunterXhunter is great right now and it's the first manga i followed but it still has a lot to offer , as for one piece like i said , to me ( and many other fans ) the arc isn't good by the whole jump standers not only "one piece", even naruto can improve , i wish the story could be like naruto's fight with pain. but right now hunterXhunter and naruto really are the best and i think the toc will reflect this fact in the next few "Toc"s

 

[Divinenega]

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Hmm it would seem there is a 3rd project for Medaka Box besides the novel and anime: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/int...edaka-box-has-3rd-project-besides-anime-novel

I;m curious as to what it could be, but it'll probably be something obvious(part of me hopes for fighting game, just because of how over the top it could be). Kind of nice to see it get so much recognition after struggling so long to get popular, but now that it is I guess JUMP plans to milk the NisiOshin name for all it's worth.

 

[R4n]

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all this talk about 'welcome to the competitive dance club' suddenly make me want to read it so bad. Does anyone know whether it had been translated? or at least where i can download the raw?
i am very curious now

googling it resulted in actual dance clubs websites... xDDD

 

[k-dom]

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If it is as good as Onani master, I understand the deception. I wonder how an independent artist will fit to serialization business. Not that it is incompatible, but I hope he can keep some of his singularity.

 

[[Cross]]

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Hmm it would seem there is a 3rd project for Medaka Box besides the novel and anime: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/int...edaka-box-has-3rd-project-besides-anime-novel

I;m curious as to what it could be, but it'll probably be something obvious(part of me hopes for fighting game, just because of how over the top it could be). Kind of nice to see it get so much recognition after struggling so long to get popular, but now that it is I guess JUMP plans to milk the NisiOshin name for all it's worth.

If I had to guess, it's probably a drama CD. A fighting game would be great.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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If I had to guess, it's probably a drama CD. A fighting game would be great.

Does Medaka Box needs drama CD? Since, it is getting much better thing, called anime.

 

[[Cross]]

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Does Medaka Box needs drama CD? Since, it is getting much better thing, called anime.

By that logic, then there's no need for a light novel either because it already has a manga. This seems to be a transmedia effort, and a drama cd might just have random filler anyway for fanservice so it's probably more likely than a game is (though I'm still wishing it is a game even though it won't be).

 

[Zeromcd]

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A new One Piece Movie was announced last night after the televesion broadcasting of Strong World.

Source ->HERE<- or ->HERE<-

 

[Zeltrax]

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A little offtopic..I'm not sure if that's smart to say that it's going to better than strong world..and I think its too early.

Tbh, I don't want to be pessimistic but I won't get my hopes up. Mainly because I'm pretty sure the anime will still be in FI island when
the movie is released and whatever toei is going to do in that movie, the location of it will be the official first island in the new world.
Obviously, the plot won't be messed up if they work with oda but I'm not interested seeing the first place/boss of the new world in movie form.
Sure, SH have flashy moves now so there will be awesomeness.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Murata has presented the color page of his new work (he said it is one shot). It is still unknown on which mangazine it'll be released at.