Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

[jorped]

So Hunter x Hunter is going to be back at 8 August ? Awesome !!!!
I just read the manga in like 4 days and finished it 2 days ago. It's an awesome manga, and it will be awesome to follow it weekly-
A chapter of Naruto, One Piece and Hunter x Hunter = Legen....wait for it.......DARY!!!!!!

 

[TemplateR]

I highly doubt it, that we could get a Remake of the old HxH-Series with OVAs. But now now I think t will be an animation of the current Manga-Arc AND later a re-animation/remake of the old arcs.
Because of the fact, that MadHouse has an another animation-style as Nippon Animation has. Although the fact is, that the successfull anime is 10-11 years old.

@Bomber D Rufi: Will Neuro-Anime continue or what do you mean by "I really really looked forward to the Neuro anime!" ?

 

[Divinenega]

Personally I think there;s a fair chance that even if it's Madhouse doing the animation, a full reboot is more likely than a continuation. For starters the first anime 10 years old, and since the primary target for the anime would still be kids, that;s too large a gap to expect them to be able to understand what;s going on in the anime. This is also true of the manga in a way when you consider how long the Chimera ant arc has been going on in the manga and not every kid may have bought those tankobons.

Of course there;s also the fact that Madhouse has been going through rough times and if anything, you;d think they;d want the backing of a major shonen franchise to help pick themselves up.

I;m cool with it either way of course, but a bit more interested in a reboot.

 

[Schabrak]

It's not like the older generation of fans did disappear off the face of the earth and with the Ant arc gone on hiatus multiple times, you got to have knowledge of the past arcs anyway to be able to follow the current plot and characters actions. A reboot is not needed and a long running adaption by Madhouse is very unlikely too, not if you wish for quality, as their best products are short running series. FMA had it's justification for a reboot, what could one for HxH offer to the public unseen in the original?

 

[TemplateR]

A reboot is not needed and a long running adaption by Madhouse is very unlikely too, not if you wish for quality, as their best products are short running series. FMA had it's justification for a reboot, what could one for HxH offer to the public unseen in the original?

First of all Madhouse has made a long running adaption and it called "Hajime No Ippo", which has 2 Season and 2 Spezial-Movies. Also the fact, that a new season and a cinema-movie is in planning/made ( although there is no news since many years oO ).
The old HxH-Anime has Fillers, not many, but it has. Also is, that the HxH-Anime-Series is about 10 years old ( if you don´t count the OVA-Series ).

Anyway, what about the DVD/BD buyers ? I don´t think, that they will buy a old-series before to buy the new HxH-series.

What I mean is, that a Remake could more gain more new Fans and is up to date in Animation.


Besides that, that we don´t know atm, what Madhouse is/was planning to do. So we must wait until the details.

 

[Schabrak]

And what of the rest of the 900+ chapters of Ippo? Would people wish for a reboot instead of a continuation? I repeat myself, "what could one for HxH offer to the public unseen in the original?" Why waste over a year worth of time for a simple reboot of shown plot instead of adapting the current arc? Madhouse should create an original series, instead of putting the stress of a 2+years[300+ chapters] production onto them imo.

Edit: Hollywood did remake a lot of asian movies in the last decade with good and many bad results, reasoning: we allready got one, why do it again just ten years later? Still quiet excited about Total Recall.[off-topic: The Movie Thread]

 

[TemplateR]

And what of the rest of the 900+ chapters of Ippo? Would people wish for a reboot instead of a continuation? I repeat myself, "what could one for HxH offer to the public unseen in the original?" Why waste over a year worth of time for a simple reboot of shown plot instead of adapting the current arc? Madhouse should create an original series, instead of putting the stress of a 2+years[300+ chapters] production onto them imo.

Ok, you have a point. Wasting time to reboot the whole series is not good.

Anyway, we don´t know, why Madhouse stopped the production of "Hajime No Ippo". And also the fact, we also don´t know, what Madhouse will do with the HxH-Anim, we haven´t the details atm.

Perhaps the new HxH-Anime is only a coninuation, perhaps the new series is a remake. We don´t know atm.

 

[chikkychappy]

Anyway, we don´t know, why Madhouse stopped the production of "Hajime No Ippo". And also the fact, we also don´t know, what Madhouse will do with the HxH-Anim, we haven´t the details atm.

perhaps it won't even be by madhouse

 

[kewl0210]

Yeah. Keep in mind, the only announcement so far has been "TV series coming this fall". The 2ch thing may possibly not be correct. It also said... here, lemme get it.

539 名前：名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい[] 投稿日：2011/06/30(木) 00:52:49.38 ID:ao2pjQy20
ハンター秋から再アニメ化だよ。
制作はマッドハウス。キャストは総入れ替えらしい。

"Hunter has an anime adaptation again starting in the fall.
The production company is madhouse. And it seems the cast is being replaced."

I dunno how people determine which posts are "real" sometimes. But a lot of the time just because someone says something in an authoritative way like that it just seems true. And sometimes the person with the same ID posted something earlier/later that proved they knew the truth in the matter. That's the problem with anonymous forums, really. Course it allows things like that where people can leak information anonymously.

Those bags and posters and stuff all say "Check for information in Shounen Jump". So we'll probably see scans of that show up sometime in the coming weeks explaining that sorta thing.

 

[TemplateR]

Wait, the official news doesn´t say in which issue will get the information. Perhaps we will get the information in this week or next week.

 

[Bomber D Rufi]

Yeah. Keep in mind, the only announcement so far has been "TV series coming this fall". The 2ch thing may possibly not be correct. It also said... here, lemme get it.


"Hunter has an anime adaptation again starting in the fall.
The production company is madhouse. And it seems the cast is being replaced."

I dunno how people determine which posts are "real" sometimes. But a lot of the time just because someone says something in an authoritative way like that it just seems true. And sometimes the person with the same ID posted something earlier/later that proved they knew the truth in the matter. That's the problem with anonymous forums, really. Course it allows things like that where people can leak information anonymously.

Those bags and posters and stuff all say "Check for information in Shounen Jump". So we'll probably see scans of that show up sometime in the coming weeks explaining that sorta thing.

Yeah, that's why I said in my original post that we shouldn't really trust this information. Right now it's just a highly likely rumor, and no more than that. I don't see why they'd want to change the staff and animation company now though, seeing as mainly fans of the original are going to be watching this, unless it is a reboot....which looks unlikely. Though the old anime is approaching (or has already passed) a decade since airing, so maybe it's about time they brought the Hunters into the new age.

@TemplateR

I meant when the Neuro anime was announced I was excited for it....until I saw what it ended up being. Since then I sorta lost trust in Madhouse when it comes to doing Shounen Jump adaptations. (What can I say, I'm easily impressionable.) Original Movies? Madhouse is badass. Original series? Madhouse is badass. After the Neuro thing though, I sorta hope it isn't them doing the animation, as amazing as it'll look. Though I guess I'll ask here....what animation studio would you want to do the new HXH series if it turns out not to be Madhouse? Nippon Animation has already proven their worth, so I'm hoping it will be them. If it's gonna be a truncated showing anyway, might as well dream big and go for Bones. :-P If they're actually gonna turn this into a long running thing again, Nippon Animation. Though I've always wondered...if Togashi weren't the Hiatus king, would a HXH anime still be running along with One piece and Naruto?

 

[TemplateR]

If Madhouse isn´t doing the HxH-Anime, then I suggest following Studios to do:

- Bones
- Production I.G.
- A-1 Pictures
- Sunrise

Plz no Studio Pierrot or Toei Animation. They will just add sucking fillers >.>

 

[Host Samurai]

Well, I do hope that the censorship concerning the upcoming anime won't be too harsh. Because that was one of it's charm in the original series that gave me a grey-tone kinda vibe which fits Hunter X Hunter IMO. And whoever will be responsible of the anime in the end please let the blood be red!

 

[Asgaroth]

i really liked death note, so i wouldn't say that madhouse can't do great animes of jump series. just looking out of interest into neuro/hxh, because i didn't watch either of them.

 

[Galactic Tomahawk]

As far as I recall their Death Note staff was also responsible for Kaiji, Akagi and One Outs, all of which were some of their best projects.

Just gotta hope they get those guys on board for HxH too if they're doing it.

 

[TemplateR]

In the HxH-Hangout-Thread, there is some new Staff:

Here's the (supposed) staff listing for the new anime, taken from a 2ch post:

Director: Kawajiri Yoshiaki
Assistant Director: Masuhara Mitsuyuki
Series Composition: Hanada Jukki
Character Design: Minowa Yutaka
Chief Animation Director: Abe Hisashi, Miyamae Shinichi
Music: Ike Yoshihiro
Animation Production: Madhouse

Holy shit...

It will also apparently air at 9am Sundays. Competing with Toriko? Or is Toriko being canned on Fuji TV or being moved to a different slot?

Now the question is, on which channel will HxH Anime return ?

 

[kaze1028]

In the HxH-Hangout-Thread, there is some new Staff:



Now the question is, on which channel will HxH Anime return ?

unconfirmed

9 o'clock of FujiTV on Sunday, instead of Toriko.

 

[TemplateR]

unconfirmed

9 o'clock of FujiTV on Sunday, instead of Toriko.

So the rumours is thicken up, that means more tuthfull. In my opinion^^

Anyway I think Toriko will get an another timeslot. Perhaps after HxH. But it could be, that Toriko-Anime will go on hiatus.


@chikkychappy: I mean "thicken" not "thicker"^^

 

[Schabrak]

I don't watch Toriko, but it's a new and popular title, are the ratings that bad to change it's timeslot?

Staff list looks like a mixed bag, Masuhara having done both gorry and lovely family series, Masuhara Mitsuyuki has a nice catalogue of series/movies on his list, Hanada has one too, but can he do action scenes?

rumor != facts Unless facts are provided it's not anymore truthfull than before.

 

[Samui]

I don't watch Toriko, but it's a new and popular title, are the rating that bad to change it's timeslot?

Staff list looks like a mixed bag, Masuhara having done both gorry and lovely family series, Masuhara Mitsuyuki has a nice catalogue of series/movies on his list, Hanada has one too, but can he do action scenes?

rumor != facts Unless facts are provided it's not anymore truthfull than before.

The raiting aren't bad, actually. I think they're up there with OP.