Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

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Personally I would make Bleach the SQ series, but it will be Mago. In Mago's case, it still has sales support but just not the popularity to sustain itself in magazine. Bleach just needs something to keep it's author on a tighter leash so he can make something more interesting and captivating...but a monthly version may or may not be the best idea. It could work in that it will allow Kubo to do more per month with his story in a magazine that skews slightly older...but on the other hand it could backfire and we could have even more super-white pages that go nowhere but once a month instead of four times.
 

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Yeah, I agree. Mago is ending up in a similar state that D.Gray-Man was when it moved to Square. In that it's ranking low but still selling well.
Bleach is very well known as a "Jump manga" so I don't see it moving anywhere.

Course, it could be some other series that's moving because the author can't keep up the weekly schedule.
 

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Mago makes the most sense, barring a black swan. It has polled poorly for the better part of three years. It would fit SQ's style too. I could see it appealing to fans of Tegami Bachi, DGM, Kurenai, AnE, etc. Despite recent struggles Bleach and Reborn have not been polling poorly for very long. I would be willing to believe the editors would be willing to let them dig there way out before moving to another magazine.
 

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Erm... Actually, I can totally see Liar Game moving to SQ... :P
Eh i disagree.
Its theme and style is very different from the ones in SQ... It'll be a bit jarring to see it there. :{

Honestly i don't care what series got moved to SQ... But seeing Bleach in a monthly magazine seems like a nightmare comes true. Its pace is already super slow in a weekly one, if it was published monthly i could totally see it rot ran for another 30 years like what the editor wanted X___x
 

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so much hate on Ikkyu, the Tengu was very well written. If it doesn't poll at least a bit better then all hope is lost.

I'm a bit skeptical on the SQ thing but if a series from Jump was gonna be moved, it's pretty obvious it'd be Mago. More SQ's style and like it has been said, it has D. Gray-man syndrome.
 

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Eh i disagree.
Its theme and style is very different from the ones in SQ... It'll be a bit jarring to see it there. :{

Honestly i don't care what series got moved to SQ... But seeing Bleach in a monthly magazine seems like a nightmare comes true. Its pace is already super slow in a weekly one, if it was published monthly i could totally see it rot ran for another 30 years like what the editor wanted X___x
Why would theme be an issue? If theme is a problem, then they wouldn't move PoT there in the first place, since there wasn't any sports series before it there.

As for style, I have to totally disagree. Clearly you have forgotten about Luck Stealer and Onsen.
 

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I wouldn't jump at Mago immediately. "Moving to SQ due to high sales but low ranking" theory has been countered by the fact that two Manga on which this theory is mostly based, DGM and TLR, have been moved because their Mangaka were no longer able to keep up with weekly releases due to health and personal issues. Are there other Manga that would support this theory? After all, doesn't monthly release of chapters also increase the gap between Volume releases and thus affects the sales negatively?

And if we say he theory is true and that popularity is the problem, wouldn't they wait till more episodes of S2 Anime aired? Seeing that Director, Series Composer and timeslot were changed, I'd say they are still attempting to use the Anime in order to boost the popularity of the franchise. Move due to popularity or financial reasons before they see how it at least may affect the overall stats seems kinda weird to me.

I am not saying that it would not be moved as I agree that the chance is very high compared to other WSJ Manga, but I'd like to check chances of other Manga anyway. Seeing as Mangaka's inability to release chapters on weekly basis is logical and proved reason for move, are there any Mangaka's that seem to have issues (not just WSJ's)?
 
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Well, it's definitely going to be one of those series if the rumor is true. I don't believe that it would be Enigma or Magico, because they would just be canceled. I mean, I'm even doubtful over Medaka. It's been in the magazine for a while, but not as long as Reborn or Bleach.
 

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just read the newest enigma chapters. not sure if the end of the e-test will push enigma towards the first place. it was good, but more a anchor to hold on in it's current position. i'm curious about what happens next... don't want to spoil anything =)
 

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I guess the next mangas being canceled in the magazine will be enigma or magico, but it's a shame, because the two of them are pretty nice, magico is more interesting than it was before, this new arc with the magi bros is really nice.. And enigma, with this last chapters can turn the story into something even more interesting..
 

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I guess the next mangas being canceled in the magazine will be enigma or magico, but it's a shame, because the two of them are pretty nice, magico is more interesting than it was before, this new arc with the magi bros is really nice.. And enigma, with this last chapters can turn the story into something even more interesting..
Well I don;t think anything will be on the chopping block for a while, but if that's the case then Ikkyuu seems to be in danger.
 

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Actually i have to admit that i don't read both for quite some weeks. But if any of those 2 would be cancelled, i think Magico would be a more probable choice. Said this i definitely need to check the chapters of Enigma that i haven't still read, which are already a considerable ammount :sweat
 

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Well I don;t think anything will be on the chopping block for a while, but if that's the case then Ikkyuu seems to be in danger.
Yes, that's probably the one that's gonna fall..

The last chapters of enigma were very entertaining..full of twists and things that nobody thought about.. Thinking better, if enigma is going to be canceled, then Magico and Ikkyuu are going first, so things are safe for enigma now..i guess..
 

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If the post about a series moving to SQ is true, that will spare a series. It sounds reasonable, as that would make room for Hunter x Hunter. Otherwise it depends on when they plan on adding new series. If they wait until after the end of August, the end of the Gold Future Cup will be one. Highly likely as something has to replace the Cup, and it is unlikely to be a run of one shots. Ikkyuu looks like it will be the next series cut, while they have dropped, Enigma and Magico polled well enough in the past to get a little more time. Kind of like Psyren, which polled very well for it's first few months.
 

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How likely is this scenario?

1. Togashi writes 20 HxH chapters
2. After he's done with those, and they're ready to be published, the decision is made to move HxH to SQ somehow
3. They publish the 20 chapters as-is, because they're weekly-sized
4. Hiatus while Togashi writes monthly-sized chapters
5. HxH comes back afterwards straight into SQ

To the public: at the end of the 20 chapters, "HxH will go back into Hiatus! Sorry! Look forward to it in SQ next time!"
 
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How likely is this scenario?

1. Togashi writes 20 HxH chapters
2. After he's done with those, and they're ready to be published, the decision is made to move HxH to SQ somehow
3. They publish the 20 chapters as-is, because they're weekly-sized
4. Hiatus
5. HxH comes back afterwards straight into SQ

To the public: at the end of the 20 chapters, "HxH will go back into Hiatus! Sorry! Look forward to it in SQ next time!"
It's a good point since Togashi supposedly works at his own pace and HxH comes back when he has enough material to be published for a volume or two that they'd already be Weekly sized. Though, I think Shin PoT is still weekly-sized in SQ and they just publish two weekly-sized chapters, or at least that's how it was done originally. I may be way off there since I don't read it and my memory is foggy.

It makes sense that they'd keep it in WSJ though because of the new anime. They could still promote it in WSJ if it moves to SQ of course, but it just seems like it'd complicate things too much. They'd had to have a legitimate reason to just move HxH, they've been following the same procedure with HxH for a while so why change it now? Maybe the editorial department has a reason to hand it off to SQ? But I can't really see one.

This is all conjecture since it's just a rumor though.
 

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I don't think Hunter x Hunter will ever move to a monthly. Irregular serialization is an established, acceptable practice in the manga industry. Hakusensha has the exact same deal with Berserk that Hunter x Hunter has with Jump. Those two are the most familiar to fandom in general but other series like Oyasumi Punpun have the same deal. Homunculus did too, prior to ending this year. Other series have more regular schedules, but are also giving set time off. Weekly Shounen Magazine gives Negima an issue off every month, resulting in three chapters a month rather than four. Gantz is serialized in a weekly magazine, Young Jump, but takes every other issue off. There are even monthly series that take issues off. New chapters of Historie and Vinland Saga do not come out in every issue of Afternoon. We also forget that international fans are spoiled by Edited Mangas.

As irregular serialization is a standard industry practice, it can be assumed Shueisha does not benefit from moving Hunter x Hunter to a monthly. It likely does not benefit Togashi either. As it currently stands, he can work on new chapters while the series is on hiatus without having a short term deadline. When serialization resumes he takes time off from work. Moving to a monthly would require him to meet a monthly deadline, something he does not have to worry about right now.

Chapter count would be reduced, by necessity. Serializing twenty chapters in twelve issues would require two chapters per issue for eight months. That would be the same as writing eight at monthly length, four at weekly length. Either that or he would be serialized for twenty straight months, before taking another hiatus. That does not seem like it benefits Togashi, nor does it seem more sensible than serializing twenty chapters a year in a weekly and getting time to work without a deadline. Considering he also had special treatment for Level E (serialized in Weekly Jump, but only one longish chapter a month), it seems unlikely that Shueisha will take a hard line with him now. Togashi is semi-retired - he's been a professional mangaka for almost thirty years and his wife is loaded. Nothing has indicated he wants to return to any sort of regular publication.
 
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This week's Weekly Shonen Jump confirms that a second Hunter X Hunter anime is set to broadcast in Japan this fall.



Based on Yoshihiro Togashi's manga, the original show ran from 1999 to 2001 and spawned OVAs. After about a year and a half hiatus, the 28th manga volume was released July 4th and has sold over 500,000 copies. The 29th volume is due out August 4th, and serialization in Jump is supposed to start up again August 8th.
Source: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2011/07/31-1/hunter-x-hunter-new-anime-finally-confirmed


Well, we will get new information with the coming wsj issue, if I´m right about the news.
 
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