Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Asarii]

Mago has taken over the role of popular action manga that polls terribly, a role previously held by DGM. DGM was in WSJ for five years and rarely rose to the top half of the TOC. Funny as this sounds, Death Note never ranked in the top five either. It never polled as low as DGM or Mago, but it was always stuck in the middle.

Hmm, that's interesting because DGM and Death Note are both popular series. Do you think they were kept because of the tankobon sales and their large fandom? I assume their fans consist of those who don't usually send the postcards.

 

[Kaiten]

It's like Finestela said: the TOC is weighted towards boys in their early teens. I presume a lot of Death Note were older than average, I think the same applied to DGM. With Death Note, I would not be surprised if a lot of fans bought the tankoboun but did not buy Jump.

 

[Finestela]

2011-24 Info:
Lead CP: Toriko (3 Year Anni)
CP: Ikkyuu, Medaka (2 Year Anni + Popularity Contest), Inumaru

 

[Divinenega]

Hurray for Medaka Box CP!(guess JUMP actually stayed on track with an anniversary this time). Doesn;t look like there'll be an anime announcement though...oh well.

 

[Finestela]

Hurray for Medaka Box CP!(guess JUMP actually stayed on track with an anniversary this time). Doesn;t look like there'll be an anime announcement though...oh well.

Don't be so greedy

Oh, and I almost forgot... Inumaru's CP is for it getting another round of vomic.

 

[Rejuvenation]

Great that we are actually getting Medaka's two-year anniversary on time this year! I'm curious to see how this popularity contest turns out.

3 years for Toriko as well is great as well. Time just keeps flying by.

 

[Jaiden82]

Can someone clear up something for if they can. Do you count CP's in the ranking yes or no?

Edit: Never mind.

 

[Finestela]

The CP's are positioned such that they aren't crammed all in the front of the magazine. They have to be spread out to a certain extend, with the "last" CP usually around 10~14 spot in the TOC.

It is not reflective of its actual position in the ranking, and, therefore, usually not considered when you're trying to figure out rankings.

 

[Sayaendo]

About the Bleach ranking discussion.
I was thinking. The downfall in the rankings begun about the same time as Magico got ranked. If we assume that the 2 major vote fractions for Bleach are a) the fan girls and b) the action fans than the low rankings make sense. The absence of fan favourites in Bleach and the new “kind of romance” Manga Magico lead to a shift of the votes from the female fans from Bleach to Magico. The absence of Action in Bleach could also shift the votes from action fans to other action series from what I think Toriko profits the most.

Spoiler: Magico spoilers

Magico ain't no romance. Or rather, it skipped the romance part straight to the end and started from there. Hell, they've even got a daughter now! And a pet!

If anything, I think Magico is the manga most immune to romance (outside of something like One Piece).

I can definitely see girls liking it though.

[kaiten]spoiler tags added.[/kaiten]

Edit: I'm extremely sorry if I spoiled anyone. Just wasn't thinking.

 

[Kaiten]

Please remember: when it is necessary to discuss plot specifics, add spoiler tags. We can't know what series others read and would not want to ruin anything, especially with newer, less well known series. Thanks!

 

[Asgaroth]

hey guys how about that? we guess before the toc how the placement will be. it think that could be fun =) we could even rank who guessed it the best.

 

[Westlo]

I'm curious to see how this popularity contest turns out.

Can't wait for Kumagawa to outshine Zen like the Sun does to a candle.

 

[k-dom]

hey guys how about that? we guess before the toc how the placement will be. it think that could be fun =) we could even rank who guessed it the best.

You can try to revive this already existing thread
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68559

 

[SoulEaterFreak]

Chapter 2-4 of Sengoku ARMORS have been scanlated and are now available to download here: Clockwork Lies

 

[Hangedman]

Image of Hanasaka Ikkyu Here

 

[Asgaroth]

Image of Hanasaka Ikkyu Here

this is gorgerous, can't wait to read it! hopefully the mangaka does more "mind-tricks" and riddles than japanese puns, because i don't understand them nor find them funny at all.

 

[SoulEaterFreak]

this is gorgerous, can't wait to read it! hopefully the mangaka does more "mind-tricks" and riddles than japanese puns, because i don't understand them nor find them funny at all.

Yeah, I think there will be some nice riddles even after a few more chapters because it's not just one mangaka, there're two, so the one who writes the story has more time to think and the one drawing can bring out his full potential drawing, just like Bakuman. or Medaka Box.
I think japanese puns are funny, but it's veeeery difficult to translate puns and have them keep their "fun-level" xD Especially Japanese ones.

 

[Asgaroth]

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there are 2 of them? didn't know that, also how someone who can only write to become a "mangaka". does he send a story to the publisher so they help him to find a mangaka who isn't good at writing a story?

about the art-style: i dont think its similiar to naruto, more to soul eater in my opinion. i like this clean style as in bleach/soul eater. is so great and easy to understand. in onepiece there are many details but it's so full and distracting.

 

[Galactic Tomahawk]

Very nice art.

I'm wondering if the sword is just a temporary thing for this chapter or if they're gonna add a fighting element to the story. I could see it being a welcome change for once, since the oneshot didn't really have much to sustain itself as a series.

 

[Finestela]

There are chatters about how Togashi might be coming back in August. A guy went to one of those casual gathering for newbie artists to meet with the big names and/or their assistants. He blogged about how he met one of Togashi's assistant, and later commented on how "it seems that an August serialization is coming" in reply to someone commenting about Togashi.

Here's a cache copy of the blog post:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QWR4KGC1

The original link is here, but it seems to have been taken down:
http://ameblo.jp/robinson0821/entry-10889982475.html