Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 5

[Kaiten]

What is the ToC ranking?
ToC stands for Table of Contents. It's found on the last page of every issue of WSJ, but more importantly, the order the series appear in on the ToC is closely related to the popularity of the series. This is determined by polling the readers; there is a polling postcard in every issue of WSJ.

Each week, a certain guy from 2ch writes out TOC for the following week's Jump. TOC order is usually based on polling result of readers, thus you will know how your favorite series are doing based on the order.

Some exceptions etc:
- For the 2nd-8th chapters, TOC is already decided, though it could change depends on readers' ranking.
- The TOC is affected by the popularity of 8 chapter ago.
- Shueisha's aiming their main target as elementary and junior high school students, thus, their votes weigh probably more than others (fangirls).

How can I find out what series runs in WSJ?
Click HERE for a list of all the current series running in WSJ. Each link will lead you to more details about the manga, and where you can find translations for all your favourite series! You can also find past series in WSJ by changing the Status filters on that page.

WSJ Cover Collection

Where are the past WSJ threads?
- Weekly Shounen Jump Scan Dump! [2007]
- Weekly Shounen Jump (Shounen Mag by Shueisha) [Archive 2008 and older]
- Weekly Shonen Jump [2009] - Discussion and TOC Talk
- Weekly Shonen Jump [2010] - Discussion and TOC Talk
- Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk
- Weekly Shonen Jump [2012 - 2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk

Have fun!

Cover Orange - Lead Color Magenta - Center Color Blue - Oneshot Color Yellow - New Green - Finished Red ​

Spoiler: TOC 2014

Spoiler: #01 (12/02)

Jump #01 (02/12) :
Iron Knight (Cover & Lead Color Page, New Series, 54 pg.)
Assassination Classroom
Naruto
Shokugeki no Souma (Color Page)
Kuroko no Basket
Toriko
World Trigger (Color Page)
Hq!!
Soul Catcher(S)
PSI Kusuo Saiki (Color Page)
Nisekoi
Hachi
Isobe Isobee Monogatari
Gintama
Bleach
Kochikame
Beelzebub
Koi no Cupid Yakeno Harajin
One Piece (Absent)
Hunter x Hunter (Hiatus)

Spoiler: #02 (12/09)

Gintama (Cover & Lead Color Page)
One Piece
Assassination Classroom
Kuroko no Basket (Color Page)
Naruto
Shokugeki no Souma
World Trigger
Toriko
Iron Knight (Color Page, 25 pg.)
PSI Kusuo Saiki
Hq!!
Urushi (Color Page, One Shot, 47 pg.)
Bleach
Soul Catcher(S)
Nisekoi
Beelzebub
Isobe Isobee Monogatari (First Rank)
Kochikame
Hachi
Koi no Cupid Yakeno Harajin
Hunter x Hunter (Hiatus)

Spoiler: #03 (12/15)

Kuroko no Basket (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece
Shokugeki no Soma
World Trigger
Gintama (Center Colour)
Assassination Classroom
Iron Knight
Mitsukubi Condor (Center Colour, Oneshot)
Naruto
Beelzebub (Center Colour)
Toriko
Nisekoi
Soul Catcher(S)
Haikyuu!!
Isobe Isobee Monogatari
PSI Kusuo Saiki
Bleach
Koi no Cupid
Kochikame
Hachi

Spoiler: #04-05 (12/22)

Ansatsu Kyoushitsu (Lead CP)
Naruto
One Piece
Toriko
Kuroko no Basket
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
Shokugeki no Souma Bangaihen (CP)
World Trigger
Haikyuu!!
Iron Knight
Soul Catcher(S)
Nisekoi
Gintama
Isobe Isobee Monogatari (CP)
Hachi
Bleach
Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kouen-mae Hashutsujo
Beelzebub
Koi no Cupid Yakenohara Jin

Spoiler: #06-07 (01/04)

One Piece (Lead CP)
Toriko
Naruto
Nisekoi (Full Color Chapter)
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
Kuroko no Basket
Shokugeki no Souma
Soul Catcher(S)
Gazer (CP, One Shot)
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
Haikyuu!! (CP)
Iron Knight
Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kouen-mae Hashutsujo
Isobe Isobee Monogatari
World Trigger
Gintama
Bleach
Nisekoi
Beezlebub
Koi no Cupid Yakenohara Jin
Hachi

Spoiler: #08 (01/20)

Haikyuu!! (Lead CP)
One Piece
Assassination Classroom (Cover)
Naruto
Isobee
Shokugeki no Soma
Gintama
Parthenon-kun (Center Colour, Oneshot)
Nisekoi
Kuroko no Basket
Soul Catcher(S) (Center Colour)
PSI Kusuo Saiki
World Trigger
Bleach (Center Colour)
Kochikame
Iron Knight
Beelzebub
Hachi
Koi no Cupid

Absent: Toriko

Spoiler: #09 (01/27)

Naruto (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece
Kuroko no Basket
Nisekoi (Center Colour)
Shokugeki no Soma
Assassination Classroom
Isobee
Haikyuu!!
E-Robot (Oneshot)
PSI Kusuo Saiki
Gintama (Center Colour)
Hôkago of the Dead (Oneshot)
Soul Catcher(S)
Iron Knight
Bleach
Kochikame
Hachi
Koi no Cupid
Beelzebub
Absent: Toriko, World Trigger

Spoiler: #10 (02/03)

Toriko (24p, Cover Lead Color)
Ansatsu Kyôshitsu
One Piece
Kei Monri / Wonderful Wonder World (Oneshot, 47p, Color)
Gintama
Shokugeki no Sôma (23p, Color, Popularity Poll Result)
Haikyû!!
Soul Catcher(s)
Kuroko no Basket
Nisekoi
Yûjirô Koyama / Gentle-kun (Oneshot, 17p)
World Trigger (Color)
Isobe Isobee Monogatari
Bleach
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
Iron Knight
Kochi Kame
Beelzebub
Hachi - Tôkyô 23-kyû
Koi no cupid - Yakenohara Jin
Isobe Isobee Monogatari
Absent : Naruto

Spoiler: #11 (02/10)

Illegal Rare (Cover & Lead Color Page, New Series, 58 pg.)
Naruto
One Piece
Toriko (Color Page)
Assassination Classroom
Hq!!
Shokugeki no Soma (Color Page)
Kuroko no Basket
World Trigger
Nisekoi (Color Page)
PSI Kusuo Saiki
Gintama
Soul Catcher(S)
Kochikame
Isobe Isobee Monogatari (20 pg.)
Bleach
Iron Knight
Beelzebub
Koi no Cupid Yakenohara Jin
Hachi
Hunter x Hunter (Hiatus)

Spoiler: #12 (02/17)

Jump #12 (17/02) :
iShoujo (Cover & Lead Color Page, New Series, 58 pg.)
Assassination Classroom
Toriko
Illegal Rare (Color Page, 25 pg.)
Nisekoi
Naruto
Kuroko no Basket (Color Page)
Shokugeki no Soma
Gintama
PSI Kusuo Saiki (Color Page)
Hq!!
Isobe Isobee Monogatari
World Trigger
Bleach
Soul Catcher(S)
Kochikame
Beelzebub
Iron Knight
Hachi (End)
Koi no Cupid Yakenohara Jin (End)
One Piece (Absent)
Hunter x Hunter (Hiatus)

Spoiler: #13 (02/24)

Stealth Symphony (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
One Piece
Kuroko no Basket
I Shoujo (CP)
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
Toriko
Illegal Rare
Shokugeki no Souma
Naruto
Beelzebub (CP, End)
Isobe Isobee Monogatari
Haikyuu!!
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
Gintama (CP)
Nisekoi
Darling wa Uchuujin (One Shot)
Soul Catcher(S)
Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kouen-mae Hashutsujo
Bleach
Iron Knight

World Trigger (Absent)

Spoiler: #14 (03/03)

Tokyo Wonder Boys (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
One Piece
Naruto
Stealth Symphony (CP)
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
Shokugeki no Souma
Haikyuu!! (CP)
I Shoujo
World Trigger
Nisekoi (CP)
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
Illegal Rare
Isobe Isobee Monogatari
Kuroko no Basket
Toriko
Soul Catcher(S)
Gintama
Bleach
Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kouen-mae Hashutsujo
Iron Knight

Spoiler: #15 (03/10)

Jump Issue #15
World Trigger (Cover/Lead CP)
One Piece
Kuroko no Basket
Tokyo Wonder Boys (Center Color, 25p)
Naruto
Toriko
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu (Center Color)
Stealth Symphony (23p)
Shokugeki no Soma
Isobe
iShoujo
Saiki Kusuo no PSInan
Illegal Rare
Nisekoi (Center Color)
Haikyuu!!
Gintama
Bleach
Soul Catcher(S)
Kochikame
Iron Knight

Spoiler: #16 (03/17)

Issue #16
WSJ Cast (Cover)
One Piece (Lead Color Page)
Naruto
Shokugeki no Soma (23 pg.)
Assassination Classroom
Tokyo Wonder Boys (23 pg.)
Nisekoi
Isobe
Stealth Symphony
Kuroko no Basket
PSI Kusuo Saiki
Gintama (Color Page)
Haikyuu!!
Toriko
iShoujo
Illegal Rare
Soul Catcher(S)
World Trigger
Kochikame
Bleach
Iron Knight

Spoiler: #17 (03/24)

Kuroko no Basket (Cover /Lead CP)
Assassination Classroom
Shokugeki no Soma
Peach Pluck (Oneshot, Center CP)
Naruto
Illegal Rare
Tokyo Wonder Boys
Funny Honey (Oneshot)
Bleach (Center CP)
Isobe Isobee Monogatari
iShojo
Saiki Kusou no PSInan
Stealth Symphony
Haikyu!!
World Trigger
Nisekoi
Gintama
Kochikame
Soul Catcher(s)
Iron Knight

Absent - Toriko, One Piece

Spoiler: #18 (03/31)

Haikyu!! (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece
Assassination Classroom
Toriko
Kuroko no Basket
Naruto
Eikyu Fumetsu Devil Point (Oneshot, Center CP, author of Sket Dance)
Saiki Kusuo no PSInan
World Trigger
Stealth Symphony
Tokyo Wonder Boys
Shokugeki no Soma (Center CP)
Isobe Isobee Monogatari
Gintama
Bleach
iShojo
Illegal Rare
Soul Catcher(s)
Nisekoi
Kochikame
Iron Knight (End)

Spoiler: #19 (04/07)

Naruto (Lead CP)
Kuroko no Basket
One Piece
Assassination Classroom
Gintama
Nemuri Netaro Arawaru!! (Oneshot, Center CP, 54p) (Akira Amano)
Toriko
Nisekoi
Haikyû (Cover, Center CP, 31p)
Shokugeki no Sôma
Illegal Rare
I Shôjo
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan (Center CP)
Tokyo Wonder Boys
Isobe Isobee Monogatari
Stealth Symphony
World Trigger
Kochi Kame
Bleach
Soul Catcher(s)
Isobe Isobee Monogatari

Spoiler: #20 (04/14)

Nisekoi (Lead CP)
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu (cover)
One Piece
Shokugeki no Soma
Toriko
Haikyuu
Kuroki Ayakashi no Gogogo (Oneshot,Center CP)
Naruto
Illegal Rare (Center CP)
Saiki Kusuo no PSInan
Kuroko no Basket
Isobe
Bleach (Center CP)
World Trigger
iShoujo
Gintama
Soul Catcher(S)
Stealth Symphony
Kochikame
Tokyo Wonder Boys

Spoiler: #21 (04/21)

Gintama (Cover/Lead CP)
Naruto
Kuroko no Basket
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
Toriko
Nisekoi
Abaremashira (oneshot)
Shokugeki no Soma (Center CP)
Isobe
Haikyuu!!
Saiki Kusuo no PSInan
World Trigger (center CP)
Illegal Rare
Soul Catcher(S)
Bleach
iShoujo
Kochikame
Stealth Symphony
Tokyo Wonder Boys

Spoiler: #22-23 (04/28)

One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
Assassination Classroom
Shokugeki no Soma
Kuroko no Basket (Center CP)
Saiki Kusuo no PSInan
Naruto
Isobe Isobee Monogatari
Haikyu!!
Toriko
Nisekoi
Gag oneshot collection (Oneshot, Center CP)
Gintama
World Trigger
iShojo
Soul Catcher(s)
Kochikame
Stealth Symphony
Illegal Rare
Bleach
Tokyo Wonder Boys

Spoiler: #24 (05/13)

Ansatsu Kyoushitsu (Lead CP)
Kuroko no Basket
One Piece
Naruto
Shokugeki no Soma
Haikyuu!!
Kamidori (Oneshot, CP)
Gintama
Nisekoi (Cover, CP)
Isobe
Toriko
Saiki Kusuo no PSInan
Soul Catcher(s) (CP)
Illegal Rare
Bleach
Kochikame
iShoujo
World Trigger
Stealth Symphony
Tokyo Wonder Boys (End)

Spoiler: #25 (05/19)

Haikyuu (Cover/Lead CP)
One Piece
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
Hi-Fi Cluster (oneshot)
Naruto
Isobe
Toriko
Shokugeki no Soma (CP)
Saiki Kusuo no PSInan
Kuroko no Basket
Nisekoi (CP)
Gintama
Soul Catcher(S)
World Trigger
Illegal Rare
Kochikame
Bleach
iShoujo
Stealth Symphony

Spoiler: #26 (05/26)

Hinomaru Zumou (Lead CP/Cover)
Shokugeki no Soma
One Piece
Isobe (Center CP)
Kuroko no Basket
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
Saiki Kusuo no PSInan
Naruto
Nisekoi
World Trigger
Bleach (center CP)
Haikyuu
Toriko
Illegal Rare (center CP)
Soul Catcher(S)
Gintama
Kochikame
Stealth Symphony
iShoujo

Spoiler: #27 (06/02)

Toriko (Cover, Lead CP)
Kuroko no Basket
One Piece
Hinomaru Zumô (CP, 25p)
Ansatsu Kyôshitsu
Naruto
World Trigger (CP) (Anime Annnouncement)
Isobe Isobee Monogatari - Ukiyo ha Tsurai yo
Shokugeki no Sôma
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
Hunter x Hunter (CP)
Haikyû!!
Nisekoi
Gintama
Bleach
Soul Catcher(s)
Illegal Rare
Kochi Kame
I Shôjo
Stealth Symphony
Isobe Isobee Monogatari - Ukiyo ha Tsurai yo

Spoiler: #28 (06/09)

World Trigger (Cover/Lead CP)
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
Kuroko no Basket
Naruto (Center CP)
Shokugeki no Soma
Hinomaru Zumou
Shikigami Twilight Days (Oneshot, Author of Psyren)
Saiki Kusuo no PSInan
Haikyuu
Toriko
Illegal Rare
Nisekoi (Center CP)
Isobe
Gintama
Kochikame
Hunter x Hunter
Soul Catcher(S)
Bleach
Stealth Symphony
iShoujo

 

[MangaHelpers]

Weekly Shonen Jump [2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk

This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]2995400[/split]

 

[Leoat12]

Weekly Shonen Jump [2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk

Is it really necessary a new action series when we already have many good series like that outside of Jump? Jump's line up is going better right now, better than before IMO, without new action series. If Illegal Rare and Stealth Symphone make success, it will be even less necessary.

 

[TXC]

After naruto and bleach ending? if these new series flop sure it's needed. Having good action outside of jump doesn't help the WSJ editorial.

 

[Kaizou 10]

Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk

Is it really necessary a new action series when we already have many good series like that outside of Jump? Jump's line up is going better right now, better than before IMO, without new action series. If Illegal Rare and Stealth Symphone make success, it will be even less necessary.

But, some people expect lots of action series, especially in Jump. I think they think its current line-up is still not enough.

On the side note, it hasn't even been half of 2014, but we already have five threads now. That's fast.

 

[SharkBait]

Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk

Is it really necessary a new action series when we already have many good series like that outside of Jump? Jump's line up is going better right now, better than before IMO, without new action series. If Illegal Rare and Stealth Symphony make success, it will be even less necessary.

Oh this is Illegal Rare's make or break week. Curious to see if it truly starts out strong on the success end.

 

[Leoat12]

After naruto and bleach ending? if these new series flop sure it's needed. Having good action outside of jump doesn't help the WSJ editorial.

We are talking about what we (readers) are thinking about WSJ lineup. What WSJ editoral thinks doesn't matter in the subject.

 

[TXC]

For the record I read 1 action series at the moment, and it's Stealth Symphony (and HxH but yeah..). Not even close to being the genre I enjoy the most, but after losing naruto there's a hole to fill or at least that's how I see it.

---------- Post added at 01:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:00 AM ----------

We are talking about what we (readers) are thinking about WSJ lineup. What WSJ editoral thinks doesn't matter in the subject.

I ''reader'' have interests in such matters, or can't I?

---------- Post added at 01:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:01 AM ----------

I study Economics at university, have a bunch of management (and marketing) subjects to study... is only natural to think about what others need.

 

[Leoat12]

I ''reader'' have interests in such matters, or can't I?

It is the same to say that you would like to read what the editors would like to publish. If the reader's mind worked that way, all series would make success.

 

[TXC]

It is the same to say that you would like to read what the editors would like to publish. If the reader's mind worked that way, all series would make success.

As I said I don't have interest in that action series (unless is amazing, could be). I'm just commenting about what the line up will need, because in my opinion it will.

Here I'm giving my thoughts about the matter, if I'm ''obliged'' to go with the same train of thought as everyone else, there's no much point in participating.

 

[arsg]

There's a lot of room for action in the magazine right now. Reborn, Medaka and Beelzebub all ended in the past year or so, thinning out a lot of the competition. If a new hit action series is going to emerge, 2014 would be a good year for it.

 

[Kaizou 10]

There's a lot of room for action in the magazine right now. Reborn, Medaka and Beelzebub all ended in the past year or so, thinning out a lot of the competition. If a new hit action series is going to emerge, 2014 would be a good year for it.

However, you have to know that the non-action series have successfully take over those spots (except for Beelzebub's spot); so, there really aren't much spots left for the next action series (unless another old series ends).

 

[Kaiten]

There's a lot of room for action in the magazine right now. Reborn, Medaka and Beelzebub all ended in the past year or so, thinning out a lot of the competition. If a new hit action series is going to emerge, 2014 would be a good year for it.

I would say it is quite the opposite. The last successful, new action series were Mago and Toriko in 2008, six years ago now. Beelzebub and Medaka were more hybrids, but even if you count them as action manga, they still came out in 2009, five years ago. There has been nothing since. Five or six years is too long to attribute to competition with established titles. It looks like a market shift. The new generation of Jump hits reflect trends in other areas of Japanese popular culture. Assassination Classroom, Kurabas, Soma, Haikyuu, and Nisekoi all fit in well with anime and light novel trends. Bakuman, too, when it was serialized.

 

[Leoat12]

After all those different successes I wonder if the reason for not having a new successful action series is just because of the magazine really doesn't have space, or if the tastes of Jump readers is changing and giving less importance for action series. Maybe quality should be included in the opitions, too? Honestly, action series has been kinda weak these days. I think we will only find out the answer when this "space" is given, when Naruto end.

***

 

[Kaizou 10]

After all those different successes I wonder if the reason for not having a new successful action series is just because of the magazine really doesn't have space, or if the tastes of Jump readers is changing and giving less importance for action series. Maybe quality should be included in the opitions, too?

The main reason that the past action series failed is that they are not interesting enough.

 

[Kaiten]

After all those different successes I wonder if the reason for not having a new successful action series is just because of the magazine really doesn't have space, or if the tastes of Jump readers is changing and giving less importance for action series. Maybe quality should be included in the opitions, too? Honestly, action series has been kinda weak these days. I think we will only find out the answer when this "space" is given, when Naruto end.

They have the space. Most of the major action titles are gone, or in decline. D. Gray Man moved in 2009, Mago and Reborn ended in 2012, Medaka Box in April 2013, and Beelzebub recently. Bleach's ratings have declined badly, regularly ranking in the bottom five, too low to take votes away from newer series. Medaka Box and Beezleub also ranked low, before ending, not taking votes away from newer action series. Hunter x Hunter is taking one of it's longest ever hiatus. None of this has opened space or freed votes for new action manga. Nothing new has established itself in five years, longer if you don't count Medaka and Beelzebub. Beelzebub is the only example given that ended within the last six months, too recently to judge.

 

[Jammin]

I would say it is quite the opposite. The last successful, new action series were Mago and Toriko in 2008, six years ago now. Beelzebub and Medaka were more hybrids, but even if you count them as action manga, they still came out in 2009, five years ago. There has been nothing since. Five or six years is too long to attribute to competition with established titles. It looks like a market shift.

Is that really a market shift though?

It's not like action adventure titles stopped being popular as a whole. When I look at the Japanese Comic Rankings I see Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach all sitting very close to the top. I suspect it's just more of a feature of failing to find the right story with the right characters for that story. The number #1 requirement of a good action/adventure is capturing people's imagination. I've given a try to almost every action series Jump has greenlighted in recent years and I just thought most weren't good enough.

Jump doesn't really have to rush things though. As long as they've got One Piece jump will sell to action fans , when Bleach and Naruto shuts down they can take their time filling that vacuum. And it will probably be easier for a new series to get established in the rankings after that anyway.

 

[Leoat12]

The main reason that the past action series failed is that they are not interesting enough.

It is a problem of quality then, a problem of 5-6 years old. It could be related with space as well because who will vote in a fairly interesting series if One Piece and/or Naruto was better that week? We should say that Jump is the worst magazine to serialize an action series nowadays.
Illegal Rare and Stealth Symphony seem really good, so we are about to see a real test of my hypothesis?

 

[Kaizou 10]

It is a problem of quality then, a problem of 5-6 years old. It could be related with space as well because who will vote in a fairly interesting series if One Piece and/or Naruto was better that week? We should say that Jump is the worst magazine to serialize an action series nowadays.
Illegal Rare and Stealth Symphony seem really good, so we are about to see a real test of my hypothesis?

Well, I'm not sure if it is a quality problem, but the action series is like double edged sword. It is a genre which able to get popular as compared to other series, but it'll axe quickly as well if it failed to catch the readers attention.

Serializing the action series comes with pretty high risk.

 

[SharkBait]

After all those different successes I wonder if the reason for not having a new successful action series is just because of the magazine really doesn't have space, or if the tastes of Jump readers is changing and giving less importance for action series. Maybe quality should be included in the opitions, too? Honestly, action series has been kinda weak these days. I think we will only find out the answer when this "space" is given, when Naruto end.

Quite sure readers are getting their action fixes elsewhere. Why invest in lower tier WSJ action series when one could get into higher tier series in Jump sq or even shonen sunday series like Magi or competitors series Attack on Titan in kodansha mags. A moratorium on new action series in jump is needed as at this rate nothing will really find a market until the major series end and when theres less competition out there.