Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015-2016] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Kave]

Predictions on how well Red Sprite and Love Rush will sell?

 

[Avok]

10K or something like that.

 

[Leoat12]

I feel so sad about Love Rush... It is nice and cute, it has a good drawing...
I cannot say that it is the same for Jump readers, but in ESJ poll it constantly appears in the 5th place in my ranking because there are better things, but I certainly enjoy reading it.

 

[Mammo]

Horikoshi created the cast of BnHA using Nike's shoes, the all black one is Tokoyami

 

[Leoat12]

Who would have thought that such a thing could happen with Kochikame... My apologies for all this time that I underestimated Kochikame. XD

 

[Halloween]

if that's the reason they idolize him then they must have a very low standards of their idols.

Well, you're not exactly the most impartial of people when it comes to Black Clover, so of course you'd think that. >_>

 

[Mammo]

I'm far from being the first person to criticize Black Clover writing quality

 

[Halloween]

Maybe so, but you constantly go out of your way to bash Tabata at every turn. It's one thing to dislike something, it's another to voice it constantly. I mean, I think Fairy Tail is shit, but I'm not going to advertise that opinion whenever I can. The reason being, there are fans of the series that enjoy it, so I give them at least that much respect.

 

[Mammo]

First: when you put something out to the world you expose it to criticism, you must understand that this criticism is to THE work and it does not extend to its fandom unless the criticism is specifically aimed at the fandom

Second: you shouldn't let other people opinions affect your enjoyment for the things you love

who cares what I think ? If you like something that most people hate then kudos to you, art is subjective

If you want some safe space and you can't handle people disagreeing with you and constantly bashing the things you love you shouldn't be on the internet

Last: I'll do whatever I want, whenever I want, as often as I want

 

[WyldViolet]

it constantly appears in the 5th place in my ranking

My own personal Jump rankings right now would be;


Gintama (recently caught back up before the ending, fuck man. This is peak shonen manga right here.
Hinomaru Sumo (this series is criminally underrated)
One Piece (the series has been on top of it since Zou)
Ghost Tits (so comfy)
The Promised Neverland (the best thing about this series is I really have no idea where it's going to go. This could be something fucking incredible. Or it fall flat on its face. I was never a big fan of it in the first place, but remember Enigma?)
My Hero Academia (this most recent arc was really a miss for me, previously it would hav been high as fuck. Still though. I love this manga)
Haikyuu (I'm so hype for the next arc)
Straighten Up (comfiest of comfies. Please be scanlated again)
Kimetsu no Yaiba (it was pretty rough initially but it has a really nice thing going for it now in terms of atmosphere and tone. I just wish the main characters weren't all so boring.
Toriko (I was never in love with Toriko but it was always fun and it still is even with its rushed ending )
World Trigger (I'm mixed on the series, but I've been enjoying it more since Hyuse joined, I've really dug the last few chapters with the different team members just hanging out and talking in casual clothes. It really presented this neat subtle part of friendship we don't often get in shonen manga)
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan (it's funny, but I don't keep up with it religiously like I do other Jump manga)
Love Rush (not a bad series, not going to miss it, but it does me no harm to read until it gets cancelled)
Shokugeki no Soma (I don't care about this manga anymore)
Samon kun (this manga has the potential to be really good but it just falls flat for me most of the time)
Amaglam of Distortion (generic edgy and cringey but not quite offensively bad)
Black Clover (no)
Red Sprite (no)

 

[Leoat12]

My own personal Jump rankings right now would be;


Gintama
Hinomaru Sumo
One Piece (the series has been on top of it since Zou)
Ghost Tits
The Promised Neverland
My Hero Academia
Haikyuu
Straighten Up
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Toriko
World Trigger
Shokugeki no Soma
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
Love Rush
Samon kun
Black Clover
Amaglam of Distortion
Red Sprite

I was talking about ESJ survey though. Every issue is an issue and there is no privileges, even Shokugeki can appear in the last place if the chapter is not enjoyable enough.

 

[WyldViolet]

I was talking about ESJ survey though. Every issue is an issue and there is no privileges, even Shokugeki can appear in the last place if the chapter is not enjoyable enough.

I know, I just thought it would be a fun topic.

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I really think Viz needs to bring some Young Jump manga to the website.
Uratarou, Golden Kamui, and Legend of the Galactic Heroes all have potential and they should hop on that potential as early as they can.
Uratarou could even fit in their Weekly Jump if they wanted. It's pretty tame.
No more graphic than HxH or Kimetsu.

It's also interesting to see how a lot of Shonen Jump mangaka from our youth are moving on to Young Jump.
Hopefully Iwashiro will start there soon.
It's also where I think we'll see Sorachi, Shimabukuro, and Kubo, come back.

 

[Scruffy8642]

Guess ill list my general Jump rankings:

-One Piece (will always be my 1. Its been on point since Zou started, so hype.)
-Hinomaru Zumou (soo good.)
-World Trigger (its been awesome lately. Cant wait for it every week)
-Academia (last arc was a bit stale, otherwise it would be higher.)
-Neverland (have really loved every chapter so far)
-Gintama (Its good, but i feel like i dont enjoy it nearly much unless its animated)
-Saiki (judging this off the anime, but Asou is a genius. I hate episodic series, and somehow he is able to make every chapter hilarious.)
-Shokugeki (not a fan of recent developments, but its decent)
-Sesuji (enjoyable, i think it deserves its place in the mag. Shame its not scanlated anymore.)
-Haikyuu (really dont care for this in manga form. I keep up with it, but dont overly enjoy it. Animes where its at.)
-Yaiba (while ive enjoyed it, i dont think its anything special after the 20 chapters ive read. Will probably be higher once i read more)
-Black Clover (yeh it doesnt do anything particularly well, but its decent aside the cringey dialogue.)
-Toriko (its been piss poor for 18 months now. Shame. Used to be my number 1)
-Red Sprite (dig the setting, but everything else is meh.)
-Love Rush (dont care for this at all. I liked nisekoi as a romcom because it was a real feel good series. This has nothing going for it.)

Havent read enough of Isobee, Ghost tits, Samon, Amalgram or Hero N1 to judge,

 

[Tanzo]

My Jump rankings:

Gintama - Only can base this on the anime for now, but it's my all time favorite in that at least.
One Piece - Haven't kept up with it since the arc after Zou, but last time I read it was still great as ever.
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san - Best ongoing manga for me. The characters are all great, it's so enjoyable and I need the next chapter soon. It's better than Nisekoi and possibly the original TLR by far though.
Saiki Kusuo no PSI Nan - Every chapter is really funny, and the anime is also really entertaining.
My Hero Academia - Need to catch up with this as well, but the manga takes a huge step up after the first 20 chapters.
The Promised Neverland - The current chapters have taken a step up, and it's pretty entertaining. Looking forward to more.
Kimetsu no Yaiba - Really liking this current arc. Art can improve with time, but the characters are cool and I look forward to more.
Hinomaru Zumou - Still need to catch up, but wow this is good.
Shokugeki no Soma - This current arc is just really boring and it should just move on from the fight and have less edgelord villains. Hopefully the lead CP will be awesome.
Samon - Needs to release faster. The comedy is nice, but it needs work on improving that in general.
Spring Weapon - Comedy is nice, and characters are decent. Not much else to say.
Red Sprite - Dull and boring, no tension really, but the characters are somewhat decent.
Love Rush - Annoying characters, the MC is pretty bland, and it's dull whenever I read it.
Amalgam - Edgy and overall boring. Not much has happened either after Ch 1.

I haven't read enough of Toriko, Haikyuu, WT, Sesuji, or Black Clover to judge them yet. I'm watching the anime for Haikyuu!! and will most likely watch BC's anime instead.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Maybe so, but you constantly go out of your way to bash Tabata at every turn. It's one thing to dislike something, it's another to voice it constantly. I mean, I think Fairy Tail is shit, but I'm not going to advertise that opinion whenever I can. The reason being, there are fans of the series that enjoy it, so I give them at least that much respect.

I resent that I also bash Tabata but that's because he's just a lousy writer and its not just with BC but Hungry Joker also had writing problems. Fans tend to ignore any flaws a series they like has and its not like we're going into BC threads and saying that it sucks this is just a general discussion for all Jump manga. If you like BC that's perfectly fine but that doesn't mean its exempt for criticism.

 

[Nakura]

Sounds like fun, I guess I'll list my rankings as well!

My Hero Academia- While the latest arc was kinda flaccid, overall I think it's such a well written series. The characters feel real, the villains actually grow, and it's very good at delivering hype. I love the art style too.
Gintama- It's bizarre that Gintama's serious arcs would put most battle series to shame. As a whole, a series filled with amazing comedy chapters, likeable characters, and serious moments that would reduce any man to tears(me).
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.- Like Sorachi, Asou is a genious of comedy.
Hinomaru Zumou- It's already my favourite sports manga. Art is amazing and it's fantastic at building and delivering hype. Fights are short and sweet, and the there is a lot of emotional impact.
Haikyu!!- I stopped reading the Shiratorizawa match just so I could watch the anime version. It's a good sports series. The art of the manga can be a bit off though.
Kimetsu no Yaiba- It's a pretty fresh series with a nice and unique art style. Art needs refinement, and the dialogue can be lacking, but it's a fun read and I hope it continues.
One Piece- I have never given a series as much chances as One Piece. For 4 years I was in the process of catching up, constantly on hold, finally decided to stop as I made it to the half-way mark of Dressrossa. I'm sorry... it's just not for me. There were enough good moments and feelings of adventure to be able to put it this high though. I enjoyed when the crew arrived to a different island.
World Trigger- I think the fights are interesting and I like the setting. However, my problem from the point at which I dropped it, was that Ashihara started introducing way too many characters. I couldn't keep up, and his art didn't help. All of the characters looked really similar.
The Promised Neverland- It's an enjoyable series, if not a bit predictable on my end.
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club- The art is cute and it's really feel-good. It can be kinda boring at times and I'm not a fan of some of the character designs.
Black Clover- People have already explained in the recent pages why this series is so low.
Amalgam of Distortion- Tries way too hard to be dark and edgy.
Red Sprite- Kinda like Black Clover in terms of how boring it is... except this time there are no characters I like. And the art... ugh.

Anything that's not on the list, I haven't read enough of, or not at all.

 

[xAsum0x]

- One Piece - love this arc so far, great development with Sanji
- My hero Academia - also loved the arc. Great seeing side characters getting shine along with more development for Shouto and the twist at the end.
- Haikyuu- overall consistently good
- Hinomaru Sumo - super underrated. Always spits out quality chaps
- The Promised Neverland- doing a great job at being a mystery. Lots of twists and turns. Keeps me interested.
- Kimetsu no Yaiba - not this mangas biggest fan. It's pretty average from story to characters to its art. Not bad at all though.
- Yuragi no Yuuna-san - ? Idk what to say
- Black Clover - coming off really shitty arcs I'm not feeling too hot about its upcoming arc. The only thing standing in Black Clover way from being a good manga is Aster because he's the worst MC I've ever seen in shonen manga.
- Red Sprite and Love Rush - no point getting canned soon
- Amalgam of distortion - this shit is just awful

Don't read the others

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At least Hungry Joker had a good concept and decent mc

 

[Varus]

Horikoshi is going to make his first public appearence in Jump Festa, without the mask this time.

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At least Hungry Joker had a good concept and decent mc

Hungry Joker was shit in my opinion I'll never understand the hype it received
I don't think Asta is a bad main character like he is a straight out of the book MC with a good balance of goofiness and badassery, I would say he is alright. You might find him boring but I honestly find him more entertaining than Kuga, Deku, Soma, and Ichigo. I don't think everyone feels the same but I always prefer characters like Goku and Luffy a default Jump type MC.

 

[Nakura]

I think Asta is a funny character. He works well in comedic situations and I love his facial expressions(especially the sparkling eyes). I honestly find his obliviousness to having his own harem to be entertaining, despite that usually being a thing I dislike. It's during serious fights when I find him most annoying... which is not great when you're the MC of a battle shonen.

 

[xAsum0x]

The constant yelling, generic never giving up speeches, never being challenged, his relationship with Yuno that's just awful. It was fine, his original idea for becoming Wizard King was to get rid of poverty, acceptable. But none of that seems to matter and it's all based on his rivalry with Yuno. In fact, Yunos not even a character.