Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Stark700]

Dont really understand the reading without thinking ordeal. In Bleach upon finishing one is still spending time thinking about where the writing is going, how the conflict will be resolved, and more. Sure it may take only two minutes to read the chapter, but I still imagine one is entertaining ideas about it for far longer.

It takes me upwards of an hour to read a Seraph chapter. They are so full of content and possibility.

Time to think about what in Bleach? It's so slow paced barely anything happens. The average bleach chapter doesn't have much to think about.

How do you miss what was typed out in the second sentence?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Foreshadowing/AnimeAndManga

Just like in English class, it depends on how you perceive things. For me, Bleach can actually be rather interesting at times.

 

[Txapeldun]

For me, Bleach can actually be rather interesting at times.

I agree.

In this thread it seems that bashing Bleach makes you a better manga critic. Bleach is nowhere near perfect, but it's tiring to have it always as an example of "how not to do things". Give poor Kubo some respect.

 

[Bomber D Rufi]

How do you miss what was typed out in the second sentence?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Foreshadowing/AnimeAndManga

Just like in English class, it depends on how you perceive things. For me, Bleach can actually be rather interesting at times.

I have no comments for Bleach, but I laughed a long time at this. Very good show.

On topic, it really feels like Gintama could end soonish. I wonder what will end up taking it's place since that's a somewhat illogical thing people talk about here?

 

[Leoat12]

This image makes me feel nostalgia, Portuguese is the same. Teachers complicate things.

They pretty much are...

No, they aren't. Each one has a editorial department and transfer one of the most successful series of SQ without no reason would cause a uproar. Seraph of the End was meant to be monthly and, unless with a good reason, it has to continue monthly.

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Just like in English class, it depends on how you perceive things. For me, Bleach can actually be rather interesting at times.

As far I know, we're talking about pacing and pacing cannot magically become fast because you "perceived" something.

 

[Stark700]

As far I know, we're talking about pacing and pacing cannot magically become fast because you "perceived" something.

You're only talking about pacing in this?

Are you in a hurry? The pacing has been perfect IMO. The plot develops when it must develop.
You cannot read Seraph of the End wihtout thinking, unlike Bleach.

There's pretty big disconnect between "having something to think about" and pacing.

Like I was saying in my post, nothing happens in Bleach, but there can be quite a bit to think about. The link had some interesting foreshadowing in it for Bleach.

On the surface, it seems like only a little happened, but a story is what you make of it. If you only take Bleach for its face value, then it's only a mindless hack and slash manga. If you look at things on another level, throughout the story, there have sometimes been small hints of what's to come. Hence, it depends on how you perceive the manga.

 

[Leoat12]

There's pretty big disconnect between "having something to think about" and pacing.

There is, as many people proved here. Since nothing happens in the chapter, you read so fast that there is no time to think. By the ranking of the series, you can conclude that many people "perceive" the story this way. Sure, you can invent everything, it is up to you, regardless it is the intention of the author or not.

 

[xAsum0x]

How do you miss what was typed out in the second sentence?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Foreshadowing/AnimeAndManga

Just like in English class, it depends on how you perceive things. For me, Bleach can actually be rather interesting at times.

Lol of course its not every chapter, some chapters do get interesting. Im saying that for me, reading Bleach almost every week is fast

 

[Leoat12]

Which is the series you guys pay more attention while reading?
To me, the top 3 is:

1) Nisekoi
2) One Piece
3) Shokugeki no Soma

 

[jagman1x3]

Which is the series you guys pay more attention while reading?
To me, the top 3 is:

1) Nisekoi
2) One Piece
3) Shokugeki no Soma

Soma
World Trigger
Soma foodgasm pages

Not in that order, of course.

 

[Leoat12]

Soma
World Trigger
Soma foodgasm pages

Not in that order, of course.

Shokugeki no Soma can become second place in my list if it has a foodgasm in the chapter.

 

[Eru13]

Which is the series you guys pay more attention while reading?
To me, the top 3 is:

1) Nisekoi
2) One Piece
3) Shokugeki no Soma

For me it'd be
1) Soma
2) Nisekoi/HQ/Ansatsu

 

[Mawara]

I agree.

In this thread it seems that bashing Bleach makes you a better manga critic. Bleach is nowhere near perfect, but it's tiring to have it always as an example of "how not to do things". Give poor Kubo some respect.

Of course repeatingly hating Bleach is pretty dull and annoying, but Bleach also deserves many of its criticism. The whole arc right now is pretty boring, imo.
And of course, his choice to call Yhwachs elite force 'Schutzstaffel' was very distasteful.

@Stark700:
I highly doubt, that Kubo actually intended some of these foreshadowings in the first place. Some of them were certainly just coincidences.

@Leot112:

(Oops, I've misunderstood. Changed my answer.)

1.)One Piece
2.)World Trigger
3.)Boku no Hero Academia

 

[Leoat12]

For me it'd be
1) Soma
2) Nisekoi/HQ/Ansatsu

All those series are tied?
Haikyuu is in fourth, I pay attention in everything, but it is naturally fast, principally in a match, so I have to be fast as well, otherwise I lose the feelings!
It is good that I don't read Haikyuu physically because I'm sure I would throw the volume far away with my simulations of spikes.

 

[Mammo]

I pay full attention to everything I read

If some manga can't grab my curiosity/attention/interest I just drop it

my brother call me crazy fro dropping attack on titan after 10 chapters & bleach after 12 & I'm be like I don't need this in my life

 

[jagman1x3]

All those series are tied?
Haikyuu is in fourth, I pay attention in everything, but it is naturally fast, principally in a match, so I have to be fast as well, otherwise I lose the feelings!
It is good that I don't read Haikyuu physically because I'm sure I would throw the volume far away with my simulations of spikes.

...And reading on an expensive computer makes that better how exactly?

 

[Ecchi Boy]

Which is the series you guys pay more attention while reading?
To me, the top 3 is:

1) Nisekoi
2) One Piece
3) Shokugeki no Soma

1) Boku no Hero Academia
2) Toriko
3) Shokugeki no Soma

 

[Eru13]

All those series are tied?
Haikyuu is in fourth, I pay attention in everything, but it is naturally fast, principally in a match, so I have to be fast as well, otherwise I lose the feelings!
It is good that I don't read Haikyuu physically because I'm sure I would throw the volume far away with my simulations of spikes.

Yeah, my attention to those three depends on how excited I am about the current arc

 

[Leoat12]

...And reading on an expensive computer makes that better how exactly?

I don't have anything in my hands. Sometimes I beat my hand in the computer shelf though.

1) Boku no Hero Academia
2) Toriko
3) Shokugeki no Soma

What is the meaning of the " " emoticon?
Toriko? Pretty interesting... Currently, I'm reading it for the lulz.

 

[KageTrigger]

Which is the series you guys pay more attention while reading?
To me, the top 3 is:

1) Nisekoi
2) One Piece
3) Shokugeki no Soma

My top three I give my undivided attention to:

1.) World Trigger
2.) Boku no Hero Academia
3.) One Piece

 

[Drmke]

What do I pay the most attention to while reading?

1) Assassination Classroom. If you don't pay attention, you'll miss more than you're realizing.
2) Hunter x Hunter when it's around.
3) One Piece. So much foreshadowing.
4) Haikyu!! Relatively simple story, but that artwork.