Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Tamil]

I found Toriko's cooking festival one of the weakest arcs of the series personally. Toriko's strongest aspects imo were the exploration and world building but the cooking festival dropped those parts for a full year. It's the point where the rankings took a turn for the worse too, I think it honestly hurt the series overall.

I disagree. It was one of the best arcs, it offered an extensive backstory on Midora showing his family dynamic & great world building/setup for future arcs (ex. gourmet eclipse). There was also Coco's hypothesis at the end of the war which was arguably one of the best world building in the series. Also foreshadowed Toriko's gourmet demons (his third). All in all, it was a well planned out arc it didn't feel like it was just fights (the fights were awesome). Exploration was on the back burner for sure but I still felt it offered a lot of rich world building & amazing setup for future arcs/events.

I'm not sure about the rankings but Toriko as a franchise (sales/anime) was already falling apart as early as 2012 iirc. I don't think it was that arc that hurt the series the most. The rushing is what really harmed the series the most, I think it was getting really close to pre-anime sales because of that.

 

[shoyoboyo]

It still looks bad.

Still much much better than before. At least half the artwork isn't obscured by a garbage stone texture.

By the way, is that for the digital volumes?

 

[101nemesis]

06/18 issue of jump looks like its going to have a lot of Bleach news. All 74 volumes of the manga are also being reprinted on 06/18. On top of that look at what Kubo chose to write on Ichigo's sweater which was used to promote the new artbook. I'm not jumping to any conclusions but it is looking more and more like Kubo's oneshot will be Bleach related or better yet an actual "little sequal" like Naruto's Scarlet Spring mini series.

Interesting
That said, Kubo would almost definitely not go back into the weekly schedule again. I can see him doing monthly chapters. His health is too timid for weekly.

 

[Aipom626]

After catching up for the week over the last 23 pages... way to go Act-Age! Watching it rise triumphantly back to the middle of the TOC after going up and down is like a battle manga on its own lol. I'm assuming that it must be safe for now since its first volume just got a reprint. I'm glad to see it hanging on for now since I think it might actually be my favorite of all the 2018 series. It also successfully avoided the U-19 Club hahaha

The last couple chapters of Noah's Notes have been too serious for my liking. I was hoping for something much more light-hearted from this series, and I think the fans were hoping so too. Ziga seems absolutely dead, so hopefully that'll go first, and Jujutsu doesn't seem to be doing well either.

 

[shoyoboyo]

Reminder that Cross Account (and Shuudan too, if I recall correctly) also got a reprint for the first volume. Not to say that Act-Age is getting canceled, just that it's possible to get canceled even with a reprint.

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[Scruffy8642]

I found Toriko's cooking festival one of the weakest arcs of the series personally. Toriko's strongest aspects imo were the exploration and world building but the cooking festival dropped those parts for a full year. It's the point where the rankings took a turn for the worse too, I think it honestly hurt the series overall.

Agreed, it was a mess. Luckily the series managed to pick up again for the first few gourmet world arcs and have one last hurrah before turning to shit again and coming to an end. I definitely think the cooking festival arc hurt it badly.

 

[Aipom626]

Reminder that Cross Account (and Shuudan too, if I recall correctly) also got a reprint for the first volume. Not to say that Act-Age is getting canceled, just that it's possible to get canceled even with a reprint.

I didn't realize that. That kind of bums me out a bit (not that I didn't enjoy both of those series), but I just want to see more of the story that Act-Age has to tell. Adding in the rival girl and the expanded cast of teenage/young adult actors was a great move. It really helped increase Yonagi's character development. The genius director and his assistant were both good characters, but watching Yonagi go through the casting/filming process with the other actors has been nice to see. Plus, I feel like the art and backgrounds have become better as time has gone by.

However, Act-Age has been able to get some better rankings in the TOC than Cross Account or Shudan ever got. Those 2 were pretty much confined to the bottom 3 ever since they started getting ranked. Act-Age has been able to rise back up toward the middle multiple times, so it feels a bit more viable than Cross Account and Shudan did. It also may help that all 3 of the brand new series seem to be struggling, and I'm not too sure how the 2 newest ones will fare either. Does anyone know what the Japanese reception has been towards Momiji and Invade You has been so far?

 

[Scruffy8642]

Dont recall seeing it mentioned here, but Neverland’s anime announcement has given the series yet another boost lol. All volumes have been in the top 100 for like a week now. All Kimetsu volumes are back in the top 500 and on the rise too, though to a much lesser extent.

 

[SharkBait]

Dont recall seeing it mentioned here, but Neverland’s anime announcement has given the series yet another boost lol. All volumes have been in the top 100 for like a week now. All Kimetsu volumes are back in the top 500 and on the rise too, though to a much lesser extent.

I thought a neverland volume just released. Are you sure its not because of that?

 

[nonowa]

Both Neverland and Kimetsu had new volume releases this week. The anime announcements were probably timed to match with them.

 

[Scruffy8642]

I thought a neverland volume just released. Are you sure its not because of that?

Neverland was boosted for like a week before it released. Pretty much since the day after the announcement. Hard to say for Kimetsu though since they were pretty much simultaneous.

 

[Tamil]

Both Neverland and Kimetsu had new volume releases this week. The anime announcements were probably timed to match with them.

The Kimetsu volume jacket doesn't mention anything about the TV anime iirc. It's only TPN that does.

 

[SharkBait]

Really curious if thousands would rush out to buy all the neverland volumes based on the anime ad that really didnt show much of substance.

 

[De La Croissant]

According to the legend, if you say "Neverland" 3 times out loud, the japanese automatically buy a volume.

 

[susanoo13]

It's possible that simply being on Noitamina is enough of a certificate of quality for some to try getting into it.

 

[iceemperor]

Neverland was boosted for like a week before it released. Pretty much since the day after the announcement. Hard to say for Kimetsu though since they were pretty much simultaneous.

This "boost" is due to the volume release, with a little influence from the anime announcement. The same happens for Heroaca and OP. When Heroaca Vol 17 was released, Vol 16 came back into the top 100 for that week with the rest coming back into the top 200 on POS. Neverland's shows up more prominently due to the fact that it has less volumes, making buying it all at once easier as opposed to say current Heroaca and OP, which have well over 15 volumes. OP's previous volumes always rank back in when a new one is released. The week when the anime was announced on 5/28, Vol 8 came back up into the top 100. Now a new volume has been released and thus Vol 8 came back up again with the rest back in the top 100.

 

[Aipom626]

Do you guys think we'll see another serialization round this year where they introduce 5 or 6 new series in a row? Act-Age managed to avoid the U-19 club; but we still have Jujutsu currently at 14, Noah's Notes at 13, Ziga at 12, Momiji at 5, and Invade You are 4. Reception for all 5 of these seems pretty weak so far, and although I like Act-Age, there's still quite a bit of danger for it. Do you think the EiC might just do like what he did last year and do a quick clean house, throw a bunch of new series in and hope half stick (like WNL, Dr. Stone, and RxL did)? Bozebeats, Golem Hearts, and Full Drive were axed at 14, 15, and 16 respectively for those who wanted to compare.

 

[SharkBait]

Do you guys think we'll see another serialization round this year where they introduce 5 or 6 new series in a row?

Two series of Food Wars, Gintama, and Hinomaru Zumou would have to end this year.

 

[iceemperor]

Do you guys think we'll see another serialization round this year where they introduce 5 or 6 new series in a row? Act-Age managed to avoid the U-19 club; but we still have Jujutsu currently at 14, Noah's Notes at 13, Ziga at 12, Momiji at 5, and Invade You are 4. Reception for all 5 of these seems pretty weak so far, and although I like Act-Age, there's still quite a bit of danger for it. Do you think the EiC might just do like what he did last year and do a quick clean house, throw a bunch of new series in and hope half stick (like WNL, Dr. Stone, and RxL did)? Bozebeats, Golem Hearts, and Full Drive were axed at 14, 15, and 16 respectively for those who wanted to compare.

Act-age is seemingly okay for now as it was used for the music festa promo, though the same goes for the Rising group. Still, I have little confidence in the editorial right now. The series they've put out have been more miss than hit and personally don't really interest me. I don't mind if they're not particularly well written as long as they entertain. They don't even do that for me. I read Ziga only when I see a matome site show me an image I find funny or interesting. I have no interest in following them. I also can't really see a pattern in the new series. Nakano said he wants more traditional shonen manga that kids will like and get attached to yet the stuff we get is hardly that. Build King might have potential but we don't know whether Shimabukuro will make that into a full series. I also don't really like the idea of depending on veterans like Kishimoto and Kubo to "save" them from their current situation. There's always been a higher chance of newbies and mangaka who've failed having a hit than a veteran that already had a hit.

 

[shoyoboyo]

Actually, the newest manga could all get axed to make space for a large batch since there's like 5 or 6 of them. Doubt it will happen though.