Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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MHA's TV ratings are so bad that it's dragging down the Conan juggernaut with it...
MHA had good ratings with its first episode. Second didn't, but it's still top 10, and the reason is likely because there was a huge protest on the Saturday afternoon regarding PM Abe. Hence why Conan didn't do as well as normal either.
 

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Was already wondering why this toc looked so off. I guess the faker forgot that one series always gets a lead cp. Would've honestly surprised me if they put a new series 3rd last before the first ranking. Did they ever rank a new manga that low before the first ranking?
 
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Came here to escape from fake news, only to be expose to MORE fake news.
 

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oh yes, the glorious return of "I was only pretending" meme, I guess Sharkbait's Reverse-Flash haven't posted here in a while


there was a huge protest on the Saturday afternoon regarding PM Abe.
what did he do?
 

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Also, Conan is currently rebroadcasting old episodes thematically in line with the movie promotion, so that affects the rating as well, though 5,9% is still well within the range that Conan can vary from week to week.
 

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Welp, I thought something fishy was happening with that Jujutsu position. Let's see tomorrow.
 

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Would've honestly surprised me if they put a new series 3rd last before the first ranking. Did they ever rank a new manga that low before the first ranking?
Of course, if I remember correctly at like ~7th chapter in the bottom five were already Stealth Symphony, Chagecha, Tokyo Wonder Boys (that one was even dead last I think). And I'm sure there were more. It's not like they need actually 8 weeks to see how badly a series is doing.
 

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Of course, if I remember correctly at like ~7th chapter in the bottom five were already Stealth Symphony, Chagecha, Tokyo Wonder Boys (that one was even dead last I think). And I'm sure there were more. It's not like they need actually 8 weeks to see how badly a series is doing.
I know, but bottom three is even worse than bottom five. Usually they at least try to push the series one last time. If you take into consideration that the ToC is done probably more than 3 weeks before the issue releases, which is in that case around chapter 4. So they most likely only have poll results up to chapter 3 at max at that point.

So a manga has to do really bad to rank that low that fast. Considering that poll results don't matter until 8 weeks in, I wouldn't even be surprised if they decide the 7th chapter ToC before the poll results of chapter 1.

I mean, they decide what gets a cp and the cover alongside. So they have to decide the ToC before the mangaka have finished the chapters of that issue. Most definitely even before they start making them. This is probably the reason why the first ranking isn't until chapter 8.
 

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Bottom 5, 3 or 6, not much of a difference = is doing bad, will likely end, unless it's lucky and happen on the time others end.

You keep talking about 3 weeks before release, but do you have proof for that? Because as far I have noticed, they usually have only like 2 chapters in advance (whatever some mangaka have mentioned they are working on XX chapter). So more like they are printing 2 weeks before release. And content in the issue may be decide even if you want 3 or 10 weeks before that, doesn't mean the position in the toc is decided 3 weeks before that, it can easily be decided 1-2 days before printing.

Poll results have always mattered for them, and the way you are going means that they decided some of the series will do bad before even getting poll results (like Tokyo Wonder Boys and if that's the case, why did they even started it? Or Chagecha getting cancelled on 8th chapter?). So don't try making it like they do 7th chapter ToC before receiving the results of the 1st chapter. Also the whole 8 week rule is not set in stone, it's not like they came out and said it's like that. Not to mention the editor can always put a series up or down, no matter the poll results.

Unless you provide solid proof for the 3 weeks ToC position in advance, I will not be answering anymore. I don't see a reason to argue about speculative stuff and unconfirmed 8 week rule. Like I said the things I have heard is that they have around 2 chapters and they print around 2 weeks (except maybe during or upcoming holidays, printing even earlier will mean they will need more storage as they send out things around less than a week before release). I may have heard wrong, but it makes far more sense than what you are saying.
 

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>Sees that Jujutsu isn’t in the bottom 3.

Yup, this ToC is fake :3c
 

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Why do we think this ToC is fake again? Is it because Yonkou didn't post it? Or because of Jujutsu's decent rank and that someone didn't put (color) next to One Piece? I'm willing to believe it, but like one person said "fake" and then it got assumed.
 

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*shrug* It's a significantly more believable ToC than the usual fakes, especially the One Piece thing which is negligible at best. I do kinda hate to see Noah so low before it ranks though so a ToC that raises it some would be nice. Though seeing Jujutsu do well (even though I don't care for it) just to spite people would also be nice.
 

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I mean we went through this some months ago when the new series got announced. Like 2 different ToCs were being passed around until Yonkou came, waiting for him is the best bet.
 

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I hate that we have to wait so long now
 

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I hate that we have to wait so long now
Me too. I liked how we got the toc every midnight on wednesday along the color pages in thursday midnight lol Now it's thursday midnight for the toc and Color pages in friday midnight
 
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