Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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next week GFC entry Hai Mieru Shounen is by the duo that did the water polo mini series on Giga
another interesting thing about Hai Mieru Shounen oneshot is it was already published in Giga last year
this is nothing new, oneshots get republished as GFC entries all the time, everyone favorite meme Galaxy Gangs was like that too

the interesting thing is, it's by the same writer but with a different artist
 

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I said I'm taking a break, but these two have so little data to work with it took like less than 30 minutes for both combined


Great job man. Both manga are really growing so far in their volumes, interesting.
 

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Really hoping shokugeki can pull itself out of the bottom 5. Id hate to see it cancled or at least maybe they would move it to jump plus or something. I feel the story could finish soon but theres still alot to tie up it go another 50 chaps easy if not more
 

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On August 25th, pretty much every TV station airs a special program 24 hour charity program, under the banner of "24h TV - Love Saves The Earth", something that has been going on since 1978 on the last August Saturday. Most of the regular programs just don't air that (for example, the Conan anime which airs after MHA takes a complete break on August 25th), but it appears MHA instead will do a special episode that ties into the charity program - and its movie, apparantly.
 

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That Jujutsu mangaka really has a problem with drawing noses.

Tbh, I just think it's his style. Or something he does voluntarily to his design for them to have a unique feel, which it does.
Ofc, whether readers like that or not is a different story.
Really hoping shokugeki can pull itself out of the bottom 5. Id hate to see it cancled or at least maybe they would move it to jump plus or something. I feel the story could finish soon but theres still alot to tie up it go another 50 chaps easy if not more
The sales are declining as well. If the manga keeps going for a year and if it stays in the bottom 5, it'll most likely get cancelled.

Oh shit, I forgot about the SOLID 40-60% digital sales. :teehee
We've got nothing to worry about. My bad.
 

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Out out curiosity did anyone actually release reliable data about digital sales numbers? Is there incentive or disincentive to?
 

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Out out curiosity did anyone actually release reliable data about digital sales numbers?
of course they have, where do you think we get 60% of a series sales are digital from
 

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another interesting thing about Hai Mieru Shounen oneshot is it was already published in Giga last year
this is nothing new, oneshots get republished as GFC entries all the time, everyone favorite meme Galaxy Gangs was like that too

the interesting thing is, it's by the same writer but with a different artist
What was the water polo miniseries on Giga? I guess j missed it....
 

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Suikyuu don burako, ran between Jump GIGA 2018 WINTER vol.1 to Jump GIGA 2018 WINTER vol.3
 

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Out out curiosity did anyone actually release reliable data about digital sales numbers? Is there incentive or disincentive to?
You can ignore Baitman's comment.
I've done a bit of digging around this thread and google, and currently this is the best data that we have.

The first is a late 2017 total copies update for RxL which gave us a total number of 460k, including print + digital. At first it was believed that this number gave us an estimate of 50% of the sales coming from digital sales. However, razerxs pointed out that the number is misleading because it includes the print number, not the physical sales number. This means that the number is inflated due to the large print number, lowering the supposed 50% digital metric.

Additionally, this post from mrcho13 shows an estimated 230k copies sold (2 volumes), which also supports a smaller digital percentage. However, this number is shaky as it is a rough estimation from a third party using the numbers from shoseki (which I believe are already estimations themselves), so take this information with a grain of salt.

The second bit of information is this early 2018 article. Here's the relevant information.
The reports, citing the Research Institute for Publications, noted that total sales of physical compiled manga book volumes were 166.6 billion yen (about US$1.56 billion) — down 14.4% compared to the previous year. This drop is the highest since sales were first tabulated in 1978. Meanwhile, digital volume sales rose to 171.1 billion yen (about US$1.6 billion) — up 17% compared to the previous year. These figures do not include magazine sales.
While this information might help the argument that digital sales make up 50% of the total sales, it's important to note that this data takes into account the entirety of the manga volume market, meaning you can't just apply it to every manga that you happen to be biased towards.

Of course, Baitman up there likes to take this data and spin it into their own interpretation where 60% of Black Clover's volume sales are digital in order to push his agenda that it's a worldwide smash hit in the same vein of MHA. Funnily enough, they also made this interesting comment. And I quote, "I dont think you could assume that every series is getting double its sales digitally just because one series RxL may perhaps be doing that". What an odd thing to say, coming from them. :cheez
 

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certain series only mentioning print numbers is why manga also need sales-through data, they are important because even though they are still estimates, but if they exist we are at least not blindly guessing number.
 
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You can ignore Baitman's comment.
I've done a bit of digging around this thread and google, and currently this is the best data that we have.

The first is a late 2017 total copies update for RxL which gave us a total number of 460k, including print + digital. At first it was believed that this number gave us an estimate of 50% of the sales coming from digital sales. However, razerxs pointed out that the number is misleading because it includes the print number, not the physical sales number. This means that the number is inflated due to the large print number, lowering the supposed 50% digital metric.

Additionally, this post from mrcho13 shows an estimated 230k copies sold (2 volumes), which also supports a smaller digital percentage. However, this number is shaky as it is a rough estimation from a third party using the numbers from shoseki (which I believe are already estimations themselves), so take this information with a grain of salt.

The second bit of information is this early 2018 article. Here's the relevant information.

While this information might help the argument that digital sales make up 50% of the total sales, it's important to note that this data takes into account the entirety of the manga volume market, meaning you can't just apply it to every manga that you happen to be biased towards.

Of course, Baitman up there likes to take this data and spin it into their own interpretation where 60% of Black Clover's volume sales are digital in order to push his agenda that it's a worldwide smash hit in the same vein of MHA. Funnily enough, they also made this interesting comment. And I quote, "I dont think you could assume that every series is getting double its sales digitally just because one series RxL may perhaps be doing that". What an odd thing to say, coming from them. :cheez
Thank you for taking the effort I didn't want to take.

The bold portion in your reply is my exact sentiment towards this. It's literally the argument I always use.
I'd fuckin love it if every series did well. But to blindly use a percentage that was used for the entire market for individual series is just being illogical.
If tomorrow they release digital sales numbers and BC and MHA and fuckin Dr. Stone are a million sellers there, I'd jump in joy. But until they do, we cannot and SHOULD NOT talk about digital sales.
 

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We should get now a good idea of Jujutsu volume 1 sales. At the end, they were only decent, or surprisingly good?

I've read dunno where it has the potential to surpass Dr.Stone and become the most important battle manga in Jump since Hero Academia.
 

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I saw a tweet that said 70k for jujutsu volume 1
 

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We should get now a good idea of Jujutsu volume 1 sales. At the end, they were only decent, or surprisingly good?

I've read dunno where it has the potential to surpass Dr.Stone and become the most important battle manga in Jump since Hero Academia.
The Promised Neverland has been a battle manga since they left the orphanage.
 

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You guys think Kinetsu No Yaiba characters will show up in Jump Force
 
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