Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Nemesis]

-Power of friendship
-Adventures
-Tournaments
-Power-ups
-Training arcs
-Moves

I'd say yes

I would say then that Dragon Ball popularized it as a manga in Japan.

Illustration (v1.0) by Akira Akatsuki for the 10th anniversary of Medaka Box

So good.

Is it just me or Medaka here feels a bit...unnatural in her face?

Yeah, I feel the same. But it's an unfinished drawing.

Saw this in a Forbes interview with his editor, but it's about the anime.

“Even though we tried to make the Dragon Ball anime better than Dr. Slump's, the ratings still went gradually down. We then tried to figure out why that was happening, why the series wasn't doing well. One thing we discovered was that the producer for the Dragon Ball anime was the same as on Dr. Slump. As he had an image of Toriyama's manga as being something cute and funny, which meant his style of Dragon Ball became too similar to Dr. Slump. This meant he was missing the more serious tone we had developed in the Dragon Ball manga. For instance, when I saw the scene in the anime where Goku pierces Piccolo I realized I couldn't work with this producer.

“So I talked with the studio and asked to have the producer changed. This was something that had never happened before, as it was an entirely different company.

“Around the same time, Saint Seiya was a very popular anime. This was interesting because the Saint Seiya manga was rather average but the anime by comparison was a lot better. So I wanted to know why the Saint Seiya anime was doing so well and we did some research on that. We found that there were two key figures. The first was Kouzou Morishita, who was the director, and the second was Takao Koyama, who wrote the script. So I visited these two guys and asked them if they'd help me reboot Dragon Ball and they both agreed."

I love how Torishima calls the manga average. lol

Yep, that's the interview! I distinctly recall it because of the snide comment he made about Saint Seiya's manga, lol.

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Read Aeneas' post, that's the one. I remember it being part of a bigger interview though.

Yeah, it's an interview about Torishima where he talks about his work as editor, much like his involvement with Dragon Quest since Shueisha was involved at the time (and still is with advertisement of games even though SE has their own magazines)

This is the link of the interview which I extremely recommend to read about it as he talks about Dr. Slump, Toriyama, DB, the gaming side of Shonen Jump and how it began, Dragon Quest and so on. It's really interesting information

Kazuhiko Torishima On Shaping The Success Of 'Dragon Ball' And The Origins Of 'Dragon Quest'

One of the major figures in manga and gaming in Japan is that of Kazuhiko Torishima. Originally an editor on Weekly Shonen Jump, overseeing titles such as Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball, he also had a major hand in the creation of gaming series like Dragon Quest. I was lucky enough to catch up with...

www.forbes.com

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I was rereading the interview and saw something that I didn't see for the first time when I read it months ago:

“Around this time, I was only an editor, not an editor-in-chief or a manager. What I wanted to avoid was to have Shueisha involved in the project. As it would drastically slow the game's production down, as each decision would need external approval. That meant I had to give Shueisha some benefit elsewhere, such as exclusive content and no need to pay royalties. With the latter allowing us to do a manga on the game if we wanted.”

So that's why Dai was on Shonen Jump since Shueisha got the right to publish a manga of the game if they wanted to. And that was even before the game existed. lol

 

[SalesNerd69]

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Can you elaborate?.., we would get internally different manga now being serialized.

The big 3 was heavily inspired cuz of toryiama, they said himself. (Also the writer of Fairy tail

I don't know about Oda and Kubo but Kishimoto was also inspired by Otomo and Tetsuo Hara, I'd imagine most of the big time 90's and 2000s mangaka's had multiple influences not just toriyama

 

[TxxT]

Spoiler: WSJ Issue 32 TOC

Black Clover (LCP)

Dr STONE

One Piece

Kimetsu no Yaiba

The Promised Neverland

Samurai 8 (CP)

We Never Learn

My Hero Academia

Hinomaru Sumo

Act Age

Spy x Family (CP)

Chainsaw Man (CP)

Tokyo Shinobi Squad

Haikyu!!

Jujutsu Kaisen

Yuuna

Double Taisei

Yui Kamio

Beast Children

Last Saiyuki


Issue 33:

Cover/LCP - My Hero Academia

CP - Haikyu!!, We Never Learn (poll), Mori King (one shot by Hasegawa Tomohiro (Spring Weapon No. 1))

One Piece (absent)

 

[Halloween]

WSJ Issue 32 TOC

Black Clover (LCP)
Dr STONE
One Piece
Kimetsu no Yaiba
The Promised Neverland
Samurai 8 (CP)
We Never Learn
My Hero Academia
Hinomaru Sumo
Act Age
Spy x Family
Chainsaw Man (CP)
Tokyo Shinobi Squad
Haikyu!!
Jujutsu Kaisen
Yuuna
Double Taisei
Yui Kamio
Beast Children
Last Saiyuki

Issue 33: Cover/LCP - My Hero Academia
CP - Haikyu!!, We Never Learn

Before I sticky, I need to know for certain that this is official.

 

[Stivie]

Beast children looks like it's another flop too, as is the Double taisei.

 

[TxxT]

Before I sticky, I need to know for certain that this is official.

It is

 

[Halloween]

It is

I'll take your word for it. If it isn't, I'll just unsticky it, so it doesn't really matter.

 

[Tomioka_96]

The rugby manga it's just an advertising for the rugby world cup that will take place in Japan in a few months if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Not really surprised about Beast. It's yet another series which had zero feedback loop. Just kinda "another" sports manga.

 

[Halloween]

Not really surprised about Beast. It's yet another series which had zero feedback loop. Just kinda "another" sports manga.

Wait, is Beast Children even ranked yet?

 

[Aeneas]

Not sure how many chapters Saiyuki has left, but hopefully the author can come back with something strong.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Wait, is Beast Children even ranked yet?

Nope, which is never a good sign.

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The rugby manga it's just an advertising for the rugby world cup that will take place in Japan in a few months if I'm not mistaken.

Wouldn't quite call it advertising but Jump most probably did greenlight it in hopes that it could get publicity from the Rugby World Cup in November.

 

[Halloween]

Nope, which is never a good sign.

Pre-official ranking doesn't matter, so I don't get the doom and gloom.

Unless you guys are referring to something else?

 

[Caiops]

Oh no, Beast Children don't die.

You are going to be the next Haikyuu.

 

[Halloween]

Guys, Beast Children's first ranking is NEXT ISSUE.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Pre-official ranking doesn't matter, so I don't get the doom and gloom.

Unless you guys are referring to something else?

It's important because there technically isn't a "pre-official" ranking, we just call it that because Jump doesn't formally judge series until they've run long to make up the first volume. For Jump to already be placing Taisei and Beast so low before they've even reached that point is troubling at best.

 

[Aeneas]

Guys, Beast Children's first ranking is NEXT ISSUE.

Yeah, and looks like Taisei ranked 10th out of 12.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Spy x Family has a color page too and will have a one shot called Mori King on #33

About Futari no Taisei, yeah, not good but at least isn't last place, i will take this as something "less negative" about it. And Beast Children being in the same place that Taisei on #31? yeah, the writting is on the wall with this one too =/

Jujutsu Kaisen is low this week.

 

[Tamil]

 

[El Jacco]

Guys, Beast Children's first ranking is NEXT ISSUE.

Even if not ranking this week, being on the lower part of the magazine is worrisome and I don't remember if there has been a series to be in that spot a week before of its ranking just to be in a safe spot the next week.
If there is any, please correct me.