Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Heiji]

3 pages of 48th issue (without watermark^^) :

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

All the newbie covers looks really good, such a improvement from their first boring covers and even Sayuki's author improved too, cool cover

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The color page for Tokyo Grind Horror Channel looks amazing

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Some debate I'm seeing.

I've seen comments saying that Jujutsu Kaisen has the best battle coreography of Jump and I'm totally agree (and after Jujutsu, for me is Black Clover). What is your opinion? Has Jujutsu the best battle coreography of current Jump?

 

[Ryuusei]

3 pages of 48th issue (without watermark^^) :

All the covers look really good, I can't even say which one is my favourite.

Some debate I'm seeing.

I've seen comments saying that Jujutsu Kaisen has the best battle coreography of Jump and I'm totally agree (and after Jujutsu, for me is Black Clover). What is your opinion? Has Jujutsu the best battle coreography of current Jump?

For me it goes like (counting all the WSJ mangas that I read and have battles in some kind of way):

JJK > MHA > CSM > BC > KNY > Yozakura > TSS = S8 > Yui

 

[tirakai]

Jujutsu probably does have best battle choreography, though MHA's big arc climax battles are generally quite nice too and Black Clover has lots of cool showing off teamwork.

On the other hand Jujutsu might have the worst story choreography, the stuff happening is fun and interesting but I quite often start reading a chapter and wonder if I've skipped a week by mistake, and even within chapters some scene changes feel odd like they skipped stuff.

 

[Thundercat27]

A better term for "story choreography" is structure and coherent. JJK plot is all over the place. The flashback, while ended up pretty interesting, came out of nowhere and demolished the whole pacing.

 

[Xzone]

Jujutsu is very chaotic and amateur in the battle aspect, but tbh, both MHA and Kimetsu improved in that aspect.

 

[MangAniMY]

magmel should be on netflix, depending on reagions maybe

Watch Ultramarine Magmell | Netflix Official Site

Decades after the sudden birth of a new continent, a young rescuer-for-hire provides aid to adventurers exploring this dangerous, uncharted world.

www.netflix.com

yes, it is available on netflix, I'm saying it now have english description,
currently don't have an active netflix, but it should have english sub at the very least


apparently old news

 

[Scruffy8642]

Jump Plus is recruiting so released some info as of this month:

• Offering >9000y/pg for a oneshot
• Offering >12000y/pg for a serialisation
• 1.5x those numbers for colour pages
• If a veteran has recieved more elsewhere, it's up for discussion
• They also get ad revenue. Some authors are getting >100k yen/month. Record was 550k yen last June.
• Also royalties for physical/digital volumes, and if applicable, overseas editions (some series sell more outside of Japan) and merchandise.

Tldr: At these rates, a newbie doing an 18pg weekly serial and who has 5 weeks off a year earns min ~$90k USD/year before ad revenue and royalties.

 

[OtterBrigade]

1.5x those numbers for colour pages

out of curiosity does this mean stuff like eldlive/Dricam/Emperor and I would make 1.5x more than if they were done black and white or is it just referring to if and author makes the title page colour once in a while (which I actually rarely see in Jump+ now that I think about it)

 

[MangAniMY]

record is highly likely by Endo with SxF, it might be something else since it is every 2 weeks, but the view counts on non chapter weeks are higher than nost series with a chapter

 

[Tamil]

Jump Plus is recruiting so released some info as of this month:

• Offering >9000y/pg for a oneshot
• Offering >12000y/pg for a serialisation
• 1.5x those numbers for colour pages
• If a veteran has recieved more elsewhere, it's up for discussion
• They also get ad revenue. Some authors are getting >100k yen/month. Record was 550k yen last June.
• Also royalties for physical/digital volumes, and if applicable, overseas editions (some series sell more outside of Japan) and merchandise.

Tldr: At these rates, a newbie doing an 18pg weekly serial and who has 5 weeks off a year earns min ~$90k USD/year before ad revenue and royalties.

But that salary is a lot lower when you factor in that they have to pay their assistants & other expenses. I found the pay for series from other magazines and at the end they're hardly making by before royalties

Spoiler

Edit:
Looks like Black Jack is quite the seller but you get the idea. The series sounds pretty interesting from the synopsis...may give it a read one day.

 

[supercow297]

Some debate I'm seeing.

I've seen comments saying that Jujutsu Kaisen has the best battle coreography of Jump and I'm totally agree (and after Jujutsu, for me is Black Clover). What is your opinion? Has Jujutsu the best battle coreography of current Jump?

Yes

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All the covers look really good, I can't even say which one is my favourite.



For me it goes like (counting all the WSJ mangas that I read and have battles in some kind of way):

JJK > MHA > CSM > BC > KNY > Yozakura > TSS = S8 > Yui

Even if you like MHA due to characters or story, its choreography is literally undefendable. It's mario-hopping off walls and harder and harder punches. You and Chocobar must be very stalwart fans...

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Jujutsu probably does have best battle choreography, though MHA's big arc climax battles are generally quite nice too and Black Clover has lots of cool showing off teamwork.

On the other hand Jujutsu might have the worst story choreography, the stuff happening is fun and interesting but I quite often start reading a chapter and wonder if I've skipped a week by mistake, and even within chapters some scene changes feel odd like they skipped stuff.

I love JJK's story choreography, minus the flashback arc.

 

[pamuchi]

 

[supercow297]

AGAIN?? is this after restocking? Holy shit

 

[tirakai]

At this point it feels like Kimetsu beating OP in total sales this year will depend on if they print enough copies for it. The momentum's clearly there, they just apparently keep running out of volumes.

 

[Ryuusei]

And to think the next reprint batch only goes out in 3 weeks. This boost seems almost endless.

 

[tirakai]

Also it really shows the difference a really good anime episode can make. People say stuff like 'oh this show was adapted well and got a low boost' and 'this show got an amazing boost with a terrible adaptation' but this insane growth wouldn't have happened without the incredible Hinokami Kagura scene and the crazy reception it got. Sure the volumes were doing well already but not this well until ep 19 really catapulted it into the mainstream.

 

[TyVip]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ if Demon Slayer don't win then fans will blame Shuiesha for not printing enough copies. If it wins then the fans will rub it on every other series. The true winner is still big boss Shuiesha.

Also it really shows the difference a really good anime episode can make. People say stuff like 'oh this show was adapted well and got a low boost' and 'this show got an amazing boost with a terrible adaptation' but this insane growth wouldn't have happened without the incredible Hinokami Kagura scene and the crazy reception it got. Sure the volumes were doing well already but not this well until ep 19 really catapulted it into the mainstream.

yeah but the thing never align. You can' expect to have good schedule slots and good adaption at the same time all the time. Heck you add in this formula too, Good Schedule + Good Adaption + Fujo Power.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Even if you like MHA due to characters or story, its choreography is literally undefendable. It's mario-hopping off walls and harder and harder punches. You and Chocobar must be very stalwart fans...

Much like MHA can attract such vitriol just by anyone praising it for anything nowadays I get brought up when I'm not even apart of the conversation. Man grow up and don't let another person's opinion rile you up so much to the point where you have to use "undefendable" unironically.