Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[yadayada]

I wonder.
If KNY was a long running series, would WSJ have the guts to replace Luffy with Tanjiro? Especially since OP is the 2nd best selling series currently per volume (So weird to say this, LOL. For some reason I thought OP would remain the best selling manga every year till it ended. Such weird times.)

Anyway, my point was it's not like Kochikame which reduced in sales so much that it wasn't even a decent seller anymore. So, would WSJ still have the guts to replace Luffy with Tanjiro in the hypothetical scenario that KNY was a long running series?

I was actually expecting to see Tanjiro and Luffy as two extremely big position characters followed by everyone else for this current issue. Low key surprised WSJ didn't do that but I guess it's also expected given how it is ending.

--- Double Post Merged, May 7, 2020, Original Post Date: May 7, 2020 ---

I'm intrigued to see what the author comments would be like more than the tribute drawings.

It depends on how long it could hold that level of sales for. If it kept outselling OP in individual volumes for 2-3 years and proved its stability, that'd be where they make the change in "face of the magazine", probably. Although I do think they could've had Tanjiro and Luffy share the front for its last appearance.

 

[Drake98]

Pretty normal CP. Not bad, but not especial either. However, the hype is still through the roof. I need this to be serialized so bad man

 

[Ryuusei]

True but it's also the slow progress backwards and the less than stellar average TOC placements. It's average TOC placements is the worst among all established series aside from Yuuna (I think), so far this year.

It was the worst out of the veterans (except Yuuna) until this week. AA's average score lowered enough for them to swap spots, though it's still very close to BC. BC's average placement has dropped considerably when compared to last year when it was #5 with an average score of 6.68 at the end of the year. It ranked in the mid-high share of the ToC for most of 2019, while it has ranked mostly in the mid-low share this year.

Spoiler: Average ToC 2020

Spoiler: Average 2019 ToC

So, it really seems twitter Japan will explode with this chapter and the next one. I can definitely see some mangaka from other mag and this one drawing KnY's characters as a tribute.

Fingers crossed for a Horikoshi drawing.

 

[ChrissyR5]

Fingers crossed for a Horikoshi drawing

This would be amazing!! Tanjiro, Nezuko, Zenitsu and Inosuke will look so beautiful and cute with Horikoshi's art!

 

[BX-02BLODIA]

Wasn't Dark Schneider like around over 400 when Bastard started?

Yeah. But age didn't stop him from looking like the "super handsome hero of the story" that he is.

Dentist-San, Your Boobs Are Touching Me! by Yamazaki Shou gets serialisation in May 16th in Jump+

ジャンプ+で読み切りNo.1閲覧数を記録した【歯医者さんあタってます!】が連載作品に | ゲームよりどりサブカルみどりパーク

ジャンプ+ にて5/16より連載開始。 250万閲覧突破、ツイッタートレンド１位とえらいことになった漫画。 一発ネタなところもあったけど連載でどうなる・・・?

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Well. Guess that a certian somebody would never touch this...

Spoiler

 

[perroloco]

@101nemesis
They should have just put Tanjiro and Luffy in the same size but chickened out.. This to me seems like they wouldn't have ever placed Tanjiro bigger than Luffy in double issue covers for what's left of One Piece's serialization (around 4 more years based on interviews... but with how Oda has been getting more and more breaks maybe it's gonna last longer).

There are some covers from like the early 2000s where Luffy wasn't the bigger character in the covers, he was accompanied by other characters like Hikaru from hikaru no go, or Naruto and they had the same size, there were even some covers were Ryotsu from Kochikame was the bigger character (early 2000s IIRC or maybe even late 90s). So I guess they were going by seniority with Ryotsu.. And also Kochikame must have been the biggest seller at the time (not sales per volume, but total manga sales).

But after 2011 (The year One Piece broke it's now broken record) Luffy was always the biggest character. And from the looks of it Shueisha will just continue that tradition until OP ends.

 

[Serinox]

Holy shit, 5,200 en is a lot of money.

I mean, a single Q Posket figurine of Nezuko for example is listed for 4,700 Yen on Amazon currently, a Tanjiro figurine is listed for a similar price.

5,200 Yen for a book with four figurines included actually sounds like a very good deal, considering figurine prices in general
(unless the figurines included are some super low quality versions, but I don't think that's it.)

 

[Halloween]

I don't actually buy figurines, but there is one I would absolutely buy, with an obscene price tag to it if I recall: A Kyuubi/Kurama Figurine crafted by a well-known artisan whose works usually goes up thousands of dollars, I heard.

This commentary isn't on-topic, Newkerzy.

 

[Newkerzy]

This commentary isn't on-topic, Newkerzy.

Ok, my bad.

 

[James Rye]

Count me to the group that's glad that UU up a bit and it is getting a CP. Abou time. Now AB needs a CP and all is good. GotW seems to be next on the axe block, only question is if it loses its head before or after the 19th chapter. Shame about AA being so low and surprisingly high position for WNL, people seem to like this arc more than I thought.

 

[El Jacco]

Given that the rumour of the Gotouge situation is spreading more and more, please everyone that uses/watch this thread, dont spread it further more because it came from a uncertain gossip magazine and could be only made to use the popularity of the series and the author to spark controversy or attention.

@Rain Spectre this goes specially for you, given that you are being used as a source for people in Twitter and this could be most likely fake, so its better to stop the misinformation right now, given that the series is ending and people are clinging to this rumour to give a reasoning on why it is ending.

 

[101nemesis]

@101nemesis
They should have just put Tanjiro and Luffy in the same size but chickened out.. This to me seems like they wouldn't have ever placed Tanjiro bigger than Luffy in double issue covers for what's left of One Piece's serialization (around 4 more years based on interviews... but with how Oda has been getting more and more breaks maybe it's gonna last longer).

There are some covers from like the early 2000s where Luffy wasn't the bigger character in the covers, he was accompanied by other characters like Hikaru from hikaru no go, or Naruto and they had the same size, there were even some covers were Ryotsu from Kochikame was the bigger character (early 2000s IIRC or maybe even late 90s). So I guess they were going by seniority with Ryotsu.. And also Kochikame must have been the biggest seller at the time (not sales per volume, but total manga sales).

But after 2011 (The year One Piece broke it's now broken record) Luffy was always the biggest character. And from the looks of it Shueisha will just continue that tradition until OP ends.

Think back then One Piece was still fairly new (5-6 years), so it's legacy/importance to WSJ was up in the air. I remember seeing a joint cover where Ichigo and Naruto were sorta bigger than Luffy or given just better positions overall.
So yeah, definitely think it was a lot easier for them to interchange some positions back then with Luffy.
Ryotsu's placements since 00s has almost always been because of seniority I believe and because it was a top selling series of all time.

A wild Toriko makes an appearance in one of these covers :P

Spoiler: Some early 2000s joint covers where Luffy isn't technically in the front.

--- Double Post Merged, May 7, 2020, Original Post Date: May 7, 2020 ---

It was the worst out of the veterans (except Yuuna) until this week. AA's average score lowered enough for them to swap spots, though it's still very close to BC. BC's average placement has dropped considerably when compared to last year when it was #5 with an average score of 6.68 at the end of the year. It ranked in the mid-high share of the ToC for most of 2019, while it has ranked mostly in the mid-low share this year.

Spoiler: Average ToC 2020

Spoiler: Average 2019 ToC

I'm fairly certain this is the same trend that Toriko started to follow after it's movie release (which I still think was the last effort from WSJ to push it). Beelzebub as well. But I'm too lazy to go back and verify.

 

[Blink22]

Oldest protagonist in WSJ?

Taikoubo is 72, any other worthy candidates?

Last I remember Dark Schneider should be around 500 years old

 

[BX-02BLODIA]

Speaking of group covers; am I the only one who wants to know where these things are at now?

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

BASED AND MOKKORIPILLED

 

[Mammo]

this sounds like BTTF when Marty "invented" Rock n Roll

 

[BlueLagoon]

Speaking of the rumor around Gotoge, about the supposed reasons why she finished the manga, it never ceases to amaze me how badly accustomed we are to a author taking the liberty to finish his work when he wants, how he wants, despite the fact that he's at its peak.

This is just a reflection of how badly accustomed we are to seeing so many manga continue simply because they are successful, because they do not know when to stop, and above all because they yield to pressure from their editors.
And now that we have for once an author who finishes his work when and how she wants, with the freedom that everyone should have, we are surprised, we feed rumors and we even condemn the end of this manga.

This is the "level" that I will never understand. Until further information, the author put an end to her work when she wanted. Everything else does not go beyond mere expeculation.

I think that more than a problem of manga, fans and authors, it is a problem of social behavior.
In general we do not know when to say enough is enough in various parameters of our life. So when someone does, we are surprised.

 

[TxxT]

 

[savethecat]

I’m sure we’ll get some kind of confirmation on whether or not they’ll be back in the final chapter’s author comments, or if not then, some type of comments in the final volume.

Maybe something along the lines of “thanks for reading and supporting. I’ll try not to be gone too long”.

Or just mentioning leaving Tokyo

 

[Aeneas]

Heh. Just noticed Andy doing his best Wolverine impression.